▲ 37 ▼ "If I can't win an argument, I must change my mind." Do you agree with this view? (lemmy.world) submitted 3 months ago by Kayra@lemmy.world to c/asklemmy@lemmy.world 74 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[–] Ekybio@lemmy.world 65 points 3 months ago (2 children) No. Source: Tried to argue with an antivaccer... permalink fedilink source hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] rockSlayer@lemmy.blahaj.zone 12 points 3 months ago (1 child) antivaccer There are people who deny the existence of vacuums now? Smh my head permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] WhoIzDisIz@lemmy.today 3 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) Yeah, they don't like anything that sucks more than they do. So, I assume you're a guy (or at least have those "parts") since you're smacking two heads... permalink fedilink source parent [+] Kayra@lemmy.world [S] -18 points 3 months ago* (7 children) If you are right, why didn't you win? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 14 child comments replies: [–] PhenomenalPancake@lemmy.world 67 points 3 months ago Because you can't logic someone out of a position they didn't logic themselves into. You're not arguing with facts, you're arguing with people, and if you argue with stupid people, they'll drag you down to their level and best you with experience. permalink fedilink source parent [–] unmagical@lemmy.ml 21 points 3 months ago (1 child) Some people don't respond to reason or facts. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] meowmeow@quokk.au 2 points 3 months ago (1 child) Yeah like all ML ;) permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] unmagical@lemmy.ml 2 points 3 months ago 🙄 permalink fedilink source parent [–] ouRKaoS@lemmy.today 18 points 3 months ago I believe the common analogy is it's like playing chess with a pigeon: You know you're smarter and do everything right, but they knock all the pieces over, shit on the board, then strut around like they won. permalink fedilink source parent [–] FartMaster69@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 3 months ago (1 child) What does winning look like? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] MagicShel@lemmy.zip 11 points 3 months ago (1 child) Recognizing you're wasting valuable oxygen and limited emotional bandwidth on someone who doesn't want to be reached. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] WhoIzDisIz@lemmy.today 2 points 3 months ago (1 child) Sadly, this seems to make up the vast majority of people. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] MagicShel@lemmy.zip 2 points 3 months ago (1 child) I mean... I'm not much or a people person for that reason. They are fucking exhausting. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] WhoIzDisIz@lemmy.today 2 points 3 months ago Same. So I guess that means we're done here. See ya around. 😁 permalink fedilink source parent [–] tyler@programming.dev 6 points 3 months ago Cause being right doesn’t mean you know how to argue with that person. It also doesn’t mean you remember all the relevant facts that would make winning possible. permalink fedilink source parent [–] MousePotatoDoesStuff@piefed.social 5 points 3 months ago Because "right" and "good at winning debates" do not necessarily correlate. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Aatube@piefed.social 2 points 3 months ago You can try it right now, actually. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] rockSlayer@lemmy.blahaj.zone 12 points 3 months ago (1 child) antivaccer There are people who deny the existence of vacuums now? Smh my head permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] WhoIzDisIz@lemmy.today 3 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) Yeah, they don't like anything that sucks more than they do. So, I assume you're a guy (or at least have those "parts") since you're smacking two heads... permalink fedilink source parent
[–] WhoIzDisIz@lemmy.today 3 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) Yeah, they don't like anything that sucks more than they do. So, I assume you're a guy (or at least have those "parts") since you're smacking two heads... permalink fedilink source parent
[+] Kayra@lemmy.world [S] -18 points 3 months ago* (7 children) If you are right, why didn't you win? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 14 child comments replies: [–] PhenomenalPancake@lemmy.world 67 points 3 months ago Because you can't logic someone out of a position they didn't logic themselves into. You're not arguing with facts, you're arguing with people, and if you argue with stupid people, they'll drag you down to their level and best you with experience. permalink fedilink source parent [–] unmagical@lemmy.ml 21 points 3 months ago (1 child) Some people don't respond to reason or facts. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] meowmeow@quokk.au 2 points 3 months ago (1 child) Yeah like all ML ;) permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] unmagical@lemmy.ml 2 points 3 months ago 🙄 permalink fedilink source parent [–] ouRKaoS@lemmy.today 18 points 3 months ago I believe the common analogy is it's like playing chess with a pigeon: You know you're smarter and do everything right, but they knock all the pieces over, shit on the board, then strut around like they won. permalink fedilink source parent [–] FartMaster69@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 3 months ago (1 child) What does winning look like? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] MagicShel@lemmy.zip 11 points 3 months ago (1 child) Recognizing you're wasting valuable oxygen and limited emotional bandwidth on someone who doesn't want to be reached. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] WhoIzDisIz@lemmy.today 2 points 3 months ago (1 child) Sadly, this seems to make up the vast majority of people. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] MagicShel@lemmy.zip 2 points 3 months ago (1 child) I mean... I'm not much or a people person for that reason. They are fucking exhausting. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] WhoIzDisIz@lemmy.today 2 points 3 months ago Same. So I guess that means we're done here. See ya around. 😁 permalink fedilink source parent [–] tyler@programming.dev 6 points 3 months ago Cause being right doesn’t mean you know how to argue with that person. It also doesn’t mean you remember all the relevant facts that would make winning possible. permalink fedilink source parent [–] MousePotatoDoesStuff@piefed.social 5 points 3 months ago Because "right" and "good at winning debates" do not necessarily correlate. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Aatube@piefed.social 2 points 3 months ago You can try it right now, actually. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] PhenomenalPancake@lemmy.world 67 points 3 months ago Because you can't logic someone out of a position they didn't logic themselves into. You're not arguing with facts, you're arguing with people, and if you argue with stupid people, they'll drag you down to their level and best you with experience. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] unmagical@lemmy.ml 21 points 3 months ago (1 child) Some people don't respond to reason or facts. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] meowmeow@quokk.au 2 points 3 months ago (1 child) Yeah like all ML ;) permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] unmagical@lemmy.ml 2 points 3 months ago 🙄 permalink fedilink source parent
[–] meowmeow@quokk.au 2 points 3 months ago (1 child) Yeah like all ML ;) permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] unmagical@lemmy.ml 2 points 3 months ago 🙄 permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ouRKaoS@lemmy.today 18 points 3 months ago I believe the common analogy is it's like playing chess with a pigeon: You know you're smarter and do everything right, but they knock all the pieces over, shit on the board, then strut around like they won. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] FartMaster69@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 3 months ago (1 child) What does winning look like? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] MagicShel@lemmy.zip 11 points 3 months ago (1 child) Recognizing you're wasting valuable oxygen and limited emotional bandwidth on someone who doesn't want to be reached. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] WhoIzDisIz@lemmy.today 2 points 3 months ago (1 child) Sadly, this seems to make up the vast majority of people. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] MagicShel@lemmy.zip 2 points 3 months ago (1 child) I mean... I'm not much or a people person for that reason. They are fucking exhausting. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] WhoIzDisIz@lemmy.today 2 points 3 months ago Same. So I guess that means we're done here. See ya around. 😁 permalink fedilink source parent
[–] MagicShel@lemmy.zip 11 points 3 months ago (1 child) Recognizing you're wasting valuable oxygen and limited emotional bandwidth on someone who doesn't want to be reached. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] WhoIzDisIz@lemmy.today 2 points 3 months ago (1 child) Sadly, this seems to make up the vast majority of people. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] MagicShel@lemmy.zip 2 points 3 months ago (1 child) I mean... I'm not much or a people person for that reason. They are fucking exhausting. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] WhoIzDisIz@lemmy.today 2 points 3 months ago Same. So I guess that means we're done here. See ya around. 😁 permalink fedilink source parent
[–] WhoIzDisIz@lemmy.today 2 points 3 months ago (1 child) Sadly, this seems to make up the vast majority of people. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] MagicShel@lemmy.zip 2 points 3 months ago (1 child) I mean... I'm not much or a people person for that reason. They are fucking exhausting. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] WhoIzDisIz@lemmy.today 2 points 3 months ago Same. So I guess that means we're done here. See ya around. 😁 permalink fedilink source parent
[–] MagicShel@lemmy.zip 2 points 3 months ago (1 child) I mean... I'm not much or a people person for that reason. They are fucking exhausting. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] WhoIzDisIz@lemmy.today 2 points 3 months ago Same. So I guess that means we're done here. See ya around. 😁 permalink fedilink source parent
[–] WhoIzDisIz@lemmy.today 2 points 3 months ago Same. So I guess that means we're done here. See ya around. 😁 permalink fedilink source parent
[–] tyler@programming.dev 6 points 3 months ago Cause being right doesn’t mean you know how to argue with that person. It also doesn’t mean you remember all the relevant facts that would make winning possible. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] MousePotatoDoesStuff@piefed.social 5 points 3 months ago Because "right" and "good at winning debates" do not necessarily correlate. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Aatube@piefed.social 2 points 3 months ago You can try it right now, actually. permalink fedilink source parent