▲ 273 ▼ The Cloud Is a Prison. Can the Local-First Software Movement Set Us Free? (www.wired.com) submitted 3 years ago by LuckyCharmsNSoyMilk@lemmy.dbzer0.com to c/selfhosted@lemmy.world 33 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[+] tym@lemmy.world 12 points 3 years ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (3 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] vynlwombat@lemmy.world 2 points 3 years ago Technically, clouds and "clouds" are also molecular patterns. permalink fedilink source parent [–] mea_rah@lemmy.world 1 point 3 years ago For some definition of cloud. You also have on premises cloud. When Amazon runs their e-commerce site on AWS, are they running it on someone else's computer or not in cloud? (putting aside some tax-wise separation of individual Amazon subsidiaries) On the other hand there are still providers that will rent you an server in their DC, but you don't get any API or anything else. At best they'll plug in HDDs that you sent them. This server hosting existed before "cloud" was a thing and it continues to exist. I'd say that more accurate definition of cloud would be "someone else's computer with an API that customer can access". And if I'm really strict about that definition I'd drop entire first part, because it's the API that matters - computer might as well be yours. Source: I've been on both sides of cloud from the very beginning. permalink fedilink source parent [–] redballooon@lemm.ee 0 points 3 years ago* (1 child) again, while true that description is neither complete nor distinguished. It would get maybe 1 out of four possible points in a high school exam. Not helpful for most things. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TwilightVulpine@lemmy.world 1 point 3 years ago It's reductionist, but it gets to the point that it's not an abstract everlasting resource, it's a system that's not under your control, so it might not be always reliable. So people should be wary of service discontinuations, rules and price changes. The point can be distilled even further, the cloud is someone else's. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] vynlwombat@lemmy.world 2 points 3 years ago Technically, clouds and "clouds" are also molecular patterns. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] mea_rah@lemmy.world 1 point 3 years ago For some definition of cloud. You also have on premises cloud. When Amazon runs their e-commerce site on AWS, are they running it on someone else's computer or not in cloud? (putting aside some tax-wise separation of individual Amazon subsidiaries) On the other hand there are still providers that will rent you an server in their DC, but you don't get any API or anything else. At best they'll plug in HDDs that you sent them. This server hosting existed before "cloud" was a thing and it continues to exist. I'd say that more accurate definition of cloud would be "someone else's computer with an API that customer can access". And if I'm really strict about that definition I'd drop entire first part, because it's the API that matters - computer might as well be yours. Source: I've been on both sides of cloud from the very beginning. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] redballooon@lemm.ee 0 points 3 years ago* (1 child) again, while true that description is neither complete nor distinguished. It would get maybe 1 out of four possible points in a high school exam. Not helpful for most things. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TwilightVulpine@lemmy.world 1 point 3 years ago It's reductionist, but it gets to the point that it's not an abstract everlasting resource, it's a system that's not under your control, so it might not be always reliable. So people should be wary of service discontinuations, rules and price changes. The point can be distilled even further, the cloud is someone else's. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] TwilightVulpine@lemmy.world 1 point 3 years ago It's reductionist, but it gets to the point that it's not an abstract everlasting resource, it's a system that's not under your control, so it might not be always reliable. So people should be wary of service discontinuations, rules and price changes. The point can be distilled even further, the cloud is someone else's. permalink fedilink source parent