▲ 871 ▼ Why are most people in real life like Cipher? (lemmy.world) submitted 2 months ago by inkblade@lemmy.world to c/flippanarchy@lemmy.dbzer0.com 130 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[–] alapakala@quokk.au 3 points 2 months ago (1 child) Yet Myanmar , Thailand , Nepal , and Spain uprooted their oppressors violently without democracy. South Korea kept it's democracy by taking the tyrant violently . It just seems the disconnect is plain old complacency. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] pfried@reddthat.com 4 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) Yet Myanmar , Myanmar wasn't a democracy. Thailand , This prime minister was removed by the court, not by violence. Nepal , and This is the only example you gave of a democratically elected official who was violently overthrown. I said that if you violently overthrow a democratically elected tyrant, the majority will simply democratically install a new tyrant. That's exactly what happened in Bangladesh, with the same party being elected after it was violently removed. Nepal seems to be a vanishingly a rare counterexample. We'll see how long that lasts. Spain uprooted their oppressors violently without democracy. Spain also wasn't a democracy. South Korea kept it's democracy by taking the tyrant violently . Also removed by the court, not by rebel violence. It just seems the disconnect is plain old complacency. No, if you violently remove a democratically elected official, that official will be democratically replaced with more of the same. Violence doesn't magically change voters' minds to agree with you. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] pfried@reddthat.com 4 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) Yet Myanmar , Myanmar wasn't a democracy. Thailand , This prime minister was removed by the court, not by violence. Nepal , and This is the only example you gave of a democratically elected official who was violently overthrown. I said that if you violently overthrow a democratically elected tyrant, the majority will simply democratically install a new tyrant. That's exactly what happened in Bangladesh, with the same party being elected after it was violently removed. Nepal seems to be a vanishingly a rare counterexample. We'll see how long that lasts. Spain uprooted their oppressors violently without democracy. Spain also wasn't a democracy. South Korea kept it's democracy by taking the tyrant violently . Also removed by the court, not by rebel violence. It just seems the disconnect is plain old complacency. No, if you violently remove a democratically elected official, that official will be democratically replaced with more of the same. Violence doesn't magically change voters' minds to agree with you. permalink fedilink source parent