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It's midnight, time for shitposting (lemmy.world)
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[–] 61 points 3 months ago (3 children)

The key concept conflict is they think files are inside apps (I teach some basic IT in one of my modules).

When asked to locate an excel file on their computer they point at excel and say the file is in excel. If you show them a .txt file, they'll claim it's in notepad.

The idea that a file is like a book, and the program is the glasses you use to read it, and their computer is the bookshelf seems to resonate well though. Then you just have to fight the clusterfuck that is Apple's file storage, since most bring an apple device to uni.

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  • [–] 40 points 3 months ago* (1 child)

    It can be even more fundamental than that. I’ve seen people cocking their heads at the existence of multiple windows and programs running simultaneously. As in, “whoa, where’d my assignment go?” after they click on the browser. They’re used to everything running through a single window due to school computers offering everything through the browser. It’s terrifying to me.

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  • [–] 6 points 3 months ago

    Honestly, I've not had that one but I've seen something close. Some students are unaware they need to manually save sometimes, they just assume autosave is always there.

    For Microsoft office this tends to be ok (OneDrive default doing something good for once), but once they step out (into SPSS/minitab/R) there is always some lost work in the first two weeks.

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  • [–] 3 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 child)

    the clusterfuck that is Apple's file storage

    Out of genuine curiosity: What makes this so bad? I've been in similar teaching situations myself, and find that Finder in column-view is pretty helpful for helping people learn to navigate their file system. One of the first things I do is drop a link to the root folder in their favourites-menu in Finder, then tell them to try to navigate to whatever they need from there, and open it with "Open with". Usually, they start understanding the concept of a file system pretty quickly after that.

    Edit: The fuckery that is "iCloud trying to trick you into thinking that files on the cloud are actually stored locally" can go fuck itself though. I've had way too many cases of people suddenly discovering that they have exactly zero files on their computer, because "Desktop" and "Documents" turned out to be links to iCloud...

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