▲ 43 ▼ Is nonbinary "trans" ? (lemmy.world) submitted 3 months ago by TractorDuffy@lemmy.world to c/nostupidquestions@lemmy.world 41 comments fedilink hide all child comments Do you use the word "trans" when talking about nonbinary people?
[–] AskewLord@piefed.social -4 points 3 months ago (1 child) No. They are two different things. permalink fedilink source hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TractorDuffy@lemmy.world [S] 3 points 3 months ago (1 child) why do you say that? other comments in this thread disagree with you so I'm curious to hear your perspective permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] AskewLord@piefed.social 0 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 child) they don't disagree. they are two different things. two words that mean different things. a car and a truck are two different things. just because hybrids combinations exist, doesn't mean cars and trucks aren't different things. non binary and trans are two different things. some people are both, some are one, some are neither. just like being italian and being scottish are two different things. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TractorDuffy@lemmy.world [S] 5 points 3 months ago (1 child) How do you understand this take then? The definition of transgender is anyone who identifies with a gender other than the one they were assigned at birth. It is therefore an umbrella term that includes nonbinary genders. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] AskewLord@piefed.social -4 points 3 months ago (1 child) that person is wrong. transgender isn't an umbrella term. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TractorDuffy@lemmy.world [S] 5 points 3 months ago I'm not trying to be antagonistic but wikipedia disagrees with you as well. This opening paragraph on the subject has citations from these publications: https://books.google.com/books?id=NAjmBQAAQBAJ&pg=PA740#v=onepage&q=&f=false https://www.apa.org/monitor/2018/09/ce-corner-glossary permalink fedilink source parent
[–] TractorDuffy@lemmy.world [S] 3 points 3 months ago (1 child) why do you say that? other comments in this thread disagree with you so I'm curious to hear your perspective permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] AskewLord@piefed.social 0 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 child) they don't disagree. they are two different things. two words that mean different things. a car and a truck are two different things. just because hybrids combinations exist, doesn't mean cars and trucks aren't different things. non binary and trans are two different things. some people are both, some are one, some are neither. just like being italian and being scottish are two different things. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TractorDuffy@lemmy.world [S] 5 points 3 months ago (1 child) How do you understand this take then? The definition of transgender is anyone who identifies with a gender other than the one they were assigned at birth. It is therefore an umbrella term that includes nonbinary genders. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] AskewLord@piefed.social -4 points 3 months ago (1 child) that person is wrong. transgender isn't an umbrella term. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TractorDuffy@lemmy.world [S] 5 points 3 months ago I'm not trying to be antagonistic but wikipedia disagrees with you as well. This opening paragraph on the subject has citations from these publications: https://books.google.com/books?id=NAjmBQAAQBAJ&pg=PA740#v=onepage&q=&f=false https://www.apa.org/monitor/2018/09/ce-corner-glossary permalink fedilink source parent
[–] AskewLord@piefed.social 0 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 child) they don't disagree. they are two different things. two words that mean different things. a car and a truck are two different things. just because hybrids combinations exist, doesn't mean cars and trucks aren't different things. non binary and trans are two different things. some people are both, some are one, some are neither. just like being italian and being scottish are two different things. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TractorDuffy@lemmy.world [S] 5 points 3 months ago (1 child) How do you understand this take then? The definition of transgender is anyone who identifies with a gender other than the one they were assigned at birth. It is therefore an umbrella term that includes nonbinary genders. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] AskewLord@piefed.social -4 points 3 months ago (1 child) that person is wrong. transgender isn't an umbrella term. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TractorDuffy@lemmy.world [S] 5 points 3 months ago I'm not trying to be antagonistic but wikipedia disagrees with you as well. This opening paragraph on the subject has citations from these publications: https://books.google.com/books?id=NAjmBQAAQBAJ&pg=PA740#v=onepage&q=&f=false https://www.apa.org/monitor/2018/09/ce-corner-glossary permalink fedilink source parent
[–] TractorDuffy@lemmy.world [S] 5 points 3 months ago (1 child) How do you understand this take then? The definition of transgender is anyone who identifies with a gender other than the one they were assigned at birth. It is therefore an umbrella term that includes nonbinary genders. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] AskewLord@piefed.social -4 points 3 months ago (1 child) that person is wrong. transgender isn't an umbrella term. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TractorDuffy@lemmy.world [S] 5 points 3 months ago I'm not trying to be antagonistic but wikipedia disagrees with you as well. This opening paragraph on the subject has citations from these publications: https://books.google.com/books?id=NAjmBQAAQBAJ&pg=PA740#v=onepage&q=&f=false https://www.apa.org/monitor/2018/09/ce-corner-glossary permalink fedilink source parent
[–] AskewLord@piefed.social -4 points 3 months ago (1 child) that person is wrong. transgender isn't an umbrella term. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TractorDuffy@lemmy.world [S] 5 points 3 months ago I'm not trying to be antagonistic but wikipedia disagrees with you as well. This opening paragraph on the subject has citations from these publications: https://books.google.com/books?id=NAjmBQAAQBAJ&pg=PA740#v=onepage&q=&f=false https://www.apa.org/monitor/2018/09/ce-corner-glossary permalink fedilink source parent
[–] TractorDuffy@lemmy.world [S] 5 points 3 months ago I'm not trying to be antagonistic but wikipedia disagrees with you as well. This opening paragraph on the subject has citations from these publications: https://books.google.com/books?id=NAjmBQAAQBAJ&pg=PA740#v=onepage&q=&f=false https://www.apa.org/monitor/2018/09/ce-corner-glossary permalink fedilink source parent