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And the other is an image of some tanks (lemmy.ml)
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[+] -10 points 3 months ago (1 child)

Firstly that’s public.

It is a private person saying a thing. As opposed to the state saying a thing.

And the text also says:

all three face a maximum sentence of life imprisonment.

You write:

you Brits

WTF? I am not British.

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  • [–] 16 points 3 months ago (1 child)

    all three face a maximum sentence of life imprisonment

    For seperate charges related to being an owned arm of the western regime change machine.

    WTF? I am not British.

    My bad I saw the feddit and weird obsession with HK separatists being allowed push for a return to British colonisation and just assumed.

    It is a private person saying a thing

    Making public statements, pushing for a public gathering in a public place. Maybe your and my idea of what private means is different. Is it private if a pervert flashes people in public just because they're a "private person"?

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  • [+] -9 points 3 months ago (1 child)

    Maybe your and my idea of what private means is different.

    In this case, I mean that they are not the state. The state itself censors all mentions in their own communications. And the state also censors mentions by people who are not the state, i.e. private persons.

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  • [–] 17 points 3 months ago (2 children)
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  • [+] -7 points 3 months ago* (2 children)

    I stand corrected, you can learn about it through official channels. I did not attend Chinese university. However, its mention is filtered by the firewall.

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  • [–] 11 points 3 months ago (1 child)

    That's also not how the firewall works. It's an IP/domain/protocol blacklist not a keyword censoring tool.

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  • [+] -7 points 3 months ago (1 child)

    Do you disagree that sources discussing it it are deliberately blocked?

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  • [–] 12 points 3 months ago (1 child)

    Many likely are but I disagree on it generally being the reason. Most places are blocked due to the Chinese law requirement of having servers in China to operate in China.

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  • [+] -9 points 3 months ago (1 child)

    I do think it is deliberate. Before Wikipedia was blocked, you specifically could not visit the page on Tiananmen Square.

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  • [–] 16 points 3 months ago (1 child)

    I'm going to be entirely honest here so please don't take this the wrong way but no one here could give less of a fuck about western propoganda and their ridiculous exaggerations and views of events being censored. If anything the west could benefit from stronger censorship of the many Hitlerite views that gain traction over their like double genocide theory, the great replacement etc.

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  • [–] -5 points 3 months ago (1 child)

    No worries, honest difference of opinion. I think open discourse is helpful for overcoming bigotry.

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  • [–] 15 points 3 months ago (1 child)

    Yeah open discourse did wonders for the Rohingya, for vaccinations in SEA etc. you really are completely detached from reality.

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  • [+] -9 points 3 months ago (1 child)

    I don't understand the point of arguing with people pointing out that there is censorship in China if you are pro-censorship.

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  • [–] 14 points 3 months ago

    Because your massive exaggeration of it is ridiculous unhelpful and based entirely in fantasy. Censorship when applied correctly by the working class against its class enemies is good. Censoring Nazis is good. Reality is complicated (honestly this being a key point you refuse to grapple with being a large part of why everything I've seen you post is a mix of uninformed, detached from reality and utopian nonsense)

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  • [+] -7 points 3 months ago (1 child)

    The "history" you will be taught in that course won't include the reports of the journalists who were there at the time and whose film was confiscated. The famous tank man picture only survived because the journalist who took that picture hid it in a toilet.

    https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/frontline/article/why-photos-of-tiananmen-squares-tank-man-were-hidden-in-a-hotel-toilet/

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  • [–] 12 points 3 months ago (1 child)

    And the "history" of the event you were taught was a fantasy cooked up by McCarthyist acolytes to spread atrocity propaganda. Also as I pointed out to the Canadian lib he's famous because who he is and what he did are completely reframed in the west as some sacrificial martyr jumping Infront of tanks (generally with the implication that he was ran over) whereas in reality he was a random man who wanted the tanks to return to the square and was ushered off by passers by not really a revolutionary figure or particularly relevant to the event as a whole. You people are so insufferably arrogant your vision and imagination must be reality.

    Also it's not "will be" it's "was" past tense I have completed my university time and it was a fairly good course going over the failures of the government leading to unrest and how it was exploited by outside agitators. But anything short of pure hatred of all the "enemies" of the west will never be enough for you people.

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  • [+] -7 points 3 months ago (1 child)

    And the "history" of the event you were taught was a fantasy cooked up by McCarthyist acolytes to spread atrocity propaganda.

    The history I was taught is backed by documentation. The history you were taught ignores the documentation and takes the word of a government that tried to destroy any documents that existed of the event.

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  • [–] 10 points 3 months ago (1 child)

    Such great documentation such as a journalist who was evacuated before the clashes saying he saw 10,000 killed. Genuinely unserious. You have literally no idea what was taught in the course. It was largely even handed about the many errors of the government which led to unrest, how that was seized upon by outside agitators how many were killed as the rioters and police/the military clashed. But obviously nothing short of pure hatred of the wests enemies will ever be enough for you people.

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