▲ 855 ▼ Federal Surveillance Tech Becomes Mandatory in New Cars by 2027 (www.yahoo.com) submitted 3 months ago by ArmchairAce1944@discuss.online to c/technology@lemmy.world 400 comments fedilink hide all child comments I can't. I just can't.
[–] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 57 points 3 months ago (1 child) I am never buying a car built after 2016 permalink fedilink source hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] themachine@lemmy.world 19 points 3 months ago (2 children) Why 2016 specifically? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 34 points 3 months ago It depends on the make but that’s when I feel cars tipped the scale to becoming appliances permalink fedilink source parent [–] FauxLiving@lemmy.world 19 points 3 months ago (2 children) 2018 makes more sense, that's when backup cameras were mandatory so since they were putting in a screen manufacturers made every car have an 'infotainment' center and with all of that processing power comes logging and other privacy invading features. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 12 points 3 months ago (1 child) Really I don't go past 2008 myself. That was a cliff car manufactures went off after the sub prime mortgage fun fun time. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] sigmaklimgrindset@sopuli.xyz 10 points 3 months ago (2 children) Naaaaah, my 2016 RAV4 Hybrid is balling. Back up camera, 360 sensors, remote start, heated seats, medium screen with buttons and knobs instead of touch, push start, stick shift, and the best part: no wifi on-board (through my phone only). Cars peaked right here. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] 7U5K3N@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 3 months ago (1 child) I have a 2016 outback. No android auto... But I'm in the same boat. Backup camera. Sensors self driving no wifi no forced updates. Etc. I don't need anything more. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] sigmaklimgrindset@sopuli.xyz 4 points 3 months ago (2 children) Praying for our cars to survive at least another 15 years, bud 🙏 permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 4 points 3 months ago (1 child) I daily a 1985, how boned do you think I am? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Holytimes@sh.itjust.works 0 points 3 months ago (1 child) You got another 15-20 years before parts are basically unobtainable with out three arms and a kidney in cost :P permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 1 point 3 months ago Well I had a 1966 chrysler 300 (that car hated me and I hated it back) and although curses be upon all dodge designers I could still get parts for it. And as for my fiero (the 1985) that I daily I do have 2 other parts cars to pull from and a good amount of people making aftermarket parts today. The sad part is that all of the stupid cars I have had and have are still less money and stomach pain then a new car. (the 3 fieros and 300 all added together where under $6000 in car/parts/time and that is over the last 5 years) permalink fedilink source parent [–] 7U5K3N@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 3 months ago Yeah agreed. One of the great things about the outback is there's a DIY group around it. So there's a lot of YouTube videos out there on car maintenance and upgrades etc So that kind of where I'm at with it these days too permalink fedilink source parent [–] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 2 points 3 months ago (1 child) Oh, your going to fix that yourself? Or pay someone to do it? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 1 point 3 months ago (1 child) honestly i haven't been able to fix anything myself since my 1989 three horsepower crapstack. not enough room in the engine compartment. I've got a good mechanic tho, so it's not too much of a problem. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 2 points 3 months ago (1 child) I like fixing my own crap and used to fix laptops and the like in my old job. I am fairly comfortable working on anything 2008 and before, basicly as long as the car is not using fucking canbus or serialized parts. Had enough canbus in my life from the damned German cash recyclers. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago (1 child) My motto is, it's already broke what more can I do to it permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 2 points 3 months ago If it ain't ain't broke, don't not fix it. permalink fedilink source parent [–] themachine@lemmy.world 1 point 3 months ago (1 child) Hm. Well I certainly agree that privacy invasive stuff is absolutely unwelcome but I'm also a pretty big fan of backup cameras. I bought a 2023 and while it does have the "infotainment" and backup can, outside of that it's all quite dum and everything outside of like bluetooth paring and general infotainment stuff is all physical buttons. So really my point is while it is unusual, even brand new vehicles can manage to avoid the privacy nightmare. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FauxLiving@lemmy.world 1 point 3 months ago Oh yeah, I like backup cameras too and they're probably saving a lot of people from injury or death. Very much worth requiring, IMO. It's just the fact that many of these companies saw the opportunity to monetize the hardware that regulations were forcing them to install so we started seeing a lot more "data harvesting". If you were going to pick a year to avoid, 2018 makes logical sense from that perspective. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] themachine@lemmy.world 19 points 3 months ago (2 children) Why 2016 specifically? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 34 points 3 months ago It depends on the make but that’s when I feel cars tipped the scale to becoming appliances permalink fedilink source parent [–] FauxLiving@lemmy.world 19 points 3 months ago (2 children) 2018 makes more sense, that's when backup cameras were mandatory so since they were putting in a screen manufacturers made every car have an 'infotainment' center and with all of that processing power comes logging and other privacy invading features. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 12 points 3 months ago (1 child) Really I don't go past 2008 myself. That was a cliff car manufactures went off after the sub prime mortgage fun fun time. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] sigmaklimgrindset@sopuli.xyz 10 points 3 months ago (2 children) Naaaaah, my 2016 RAV4 Hybrid is balling. Back up camera, 360 sensors, remote start, heated seats, medium screen with buttons and knobs instead of touch, push start, stick shift, and the best part: no wifi on-board (through my phone only). Cars peaked right here. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] 7U5K3N@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 3 months ago (1 child) I have a 2016 outback. No android auto... But I'm in the same boat. Backup camera. Sensors self driving no wifi no forced updates. Etc. I don't need anything more. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] sigmaklimgrindset@sopuli.xyz 4 points 3 months ago (2 children) Praying for our cars to survive at least another 15 years, bud 🙏 permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 4 points 3 months ago (1 child) I daily a 1985, how boned do you think I am? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Holytimes@sh.itjust.works 0 points 3 months ago (1 child) You got another 15-20 years before parts are basically unobtainable with out three arms and a kidney in cost :P permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 1 point 3 months ago Well I had a 1966 chrysler 300 (that car hated me and I hated it back) and although curses be upon all dodge designers I could still get parts for it. And as for my fiero (the 1985) that I daily I do have 2 other parts cars to pull from and a good amount of people making aftermarket parts today. The sad part is that all of the stupid cars I have had and have are still less money and stomach pain then a new car. (the 3 fieros and 300 all added together where under $6000 in car/parts/time and that is over the last 5 years) permalink fedilink source parent [–] 7U5K3N@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 3 months ago Yeah agreed. One of the great things about the outback is there's a DIY group around it. So there's a lot of YouTube videos out there on car maintenance and upgrades etc So that kind of where I'm at with it these days too permalink fedilink source parent [–] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 2 points 3 months ago (1 child) Oh, your going to fix that yourself? Or pay someone to do it? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 1 point 3 months ago (1 child) honestly i haven't been able to fix anything myself since my 1989 three horsepower crapstack. not enough room in the engine compartment. I've got a good mechanic tho, so it's not too much of a problem. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 2 points 3 months ago (1 child) I like fixing my own crap and used to fix laptops and the like in my old job. I am fairly comfortable working on anything 2008 and before, basicly as long as the car is not using fucking canbus or serialized parts. Had enough canbus in my life from the damned German cash recyclers. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago (1 child) My motto is, it's already broke what more can I do to it permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 2 points 3 months ago If it ain't ain't broke, don't not fix it. permalink fedilink source parent [–] themachine@lemmy.world 1 point 3 months ago (1 child) Hm. Well I certainly agree that privacy invasive stuff is absolutely unwelcome but I'm also a pretty big fan of backup cameras. I bought a 2023 and while it does have the "infotainment" and backup can, outside of that it's all quite dum and everything outside of like bluetooth paring and general infotainment stuff is all physical buttons. So really my point is while it is unusual, even brand new vehicles can manage to avoid the privacy nightmare. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FauxLiving@lemmy.world 1 point 3 months ago Oh yeah, I like backup cameras too and they're probably saving a lot of people from injury or death. Very much worth requiring, IMO. It's just the fact that many of these companies saw the opportunity to monetize the hardware that regulations were forcing them to install so we started seeing a lot more "data harvesting". If you were going to pick a year to avoid, 2018 makes logical sense from that perspective. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 34 points 3 months ago It depends on the make but that’s when I feel cars tipped the scale to becoming appliances permalink fedilink source parent
[–] FauxLiving@lemmy.world 19 points 3 months ago (2 children) 2018 makes more sense, that's when backup cameras were mandatory so since they were putting in a screen manufacturers made every car have an 'infotainment' center and with all of that processing power comes logging and other privacy invading features. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 12 points 3 months ago (1 child) Really I don't go past 2008 myself. That was a cliff car manufactures went off after the sub prime mortgage fun fun time. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] sigmaklimgrindset@sopuli.xyz 10 points 3 months ago (2 children) Naaaaah, my 2016 RAV4 Hybrid is balling. Back up camera, 360 sensors, remote start, heated seats, medium screen with buttons and knobs instead of touch, push start, stick shift, and the best part: no wifi on-board (through my phone only). Cars peaked right here. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] 7U5K3N@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 3 months ago (1 child) I have a 2016 outback. No android auto... But I'm in the same boat. Backup camera. Sensors self driving no wifi no forced updates. Etc. I don't need anything more. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] sigmaklimgrindset@sopuli.xyz 4 points 3 months ago (2 children) Praying for our cars to survive at least another 15 years, bud 🙏 permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 4 points 3 months ago (1 child) I daily a 1985, how boned do you think I am? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Holytimes@sh.itjust.works 0 points 3 months ago (1 child) You got another 15-20 years before parts are basically unobtainable with out three arms and a kidney in cost :P permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 1 point 3 months ago Well I had a 1966 chrysler 300 (that car hated me and I hated it back) and although curses be upon all dodge designers I could still get parts for it. And as for my fiero (the 1985) that I daily I do have 2 other parts cars to pull from and a good amount of people making aftermarket parts today. The sad part is that all of the stupid cars I have had and have are still less money and stomach pain then a new car. (the 3 fieros and 300 all added together where under $6000 in car/parts/time and that is over the last 5 years) permalink fedilink source parent [–] 7U5K3N@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 3 months ago Yeah agreed. One of the great things about the outback is there's a DIY group around it. So there's a lot of YouTube videos out there on car maintenance and upgrades etc So that kind of where I'm at with it these days too permalink fedilink source parent [–] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 2 points 3 months ago (1 child) Oh, your going to fix that yourself? Or pay someone to do it? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 1 point 3 months ago (1 child) honestly i haven't been able to fix anything myself since my 1989 three horsepower crapstack. not enough room in the engine compartment. I've got a good mechanic tho, so it's not too much of a problem. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 2 points 3 months ago (1 child) I like fixing my own crap and used to fix laptops and the like in my old job. I am fairly comfortable working on anything 2008 and before, basicly as long as the car is not using fucking canbus or serialized parts. Had enough canbus in my life from the damned German cash recyclers. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago (1 child) My motto is, it's already broke what more can I do to it permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 2 points 3 months ago If it ain't ain't broke, don't not fix it. permalink fedilink source parent [–] themachine@lemmy.world 1 point 3 months ago (1 child) Hm. Well I certainly agree that privacy invasive stuff is absolutely unwelcome but I'm also a pretty big fan of backup cameras. I bought a 2023 and while it does have the "infotainment" and backup can, outside of that it's all quite dum and everything outside of like bluetooth paring and general infotainment stuff is all physical buttons. So really my point is while it is unusual, even brand new vehicles can manage to avoid the privacy nightmare. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FauxLiving@lemmy.world 1 point 3 months ago Oh yeah, I like backup cameras too and they're probably saving a lot of people from injury or death. Very much worth requiring, IMO. It's just the fact that many of these companies saw the opportunity to monetize the hardware that regulations were forcing them to install so we started seeing a lot more "data harvesting". If you were going to pick a year to avoid, 2018 makes logical sense from that perspective. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 12 points 3 months ago (1 child) Really I don't go past 2008 myself. That was a cliff car manufactures went off after the sub prime mortgage fun fun time. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] sigmaklimgrindset@sopuli.xyz 10 points 3 months ago (2 children) Naaaaah, my 2016 RAV4 Hybrid is balling. Back up camera, 360 sensors, remote start, heated seats, medium screen with buttons and knobs instead of touch, push start, stick shift, and the best part: no wifi on-board (through my phone only). Cars peaked right here. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] 7U5K3N@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 3 months ago (1 child) I have a 2016 outback. No android auto... But I'm in the same boat. Backup camera. Sensors self driving no wifi no forced updates. Etc. I don't need anything more. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] sigmaklimgrindset@sopuli.xyz 4 points 3 months ago (2 children) Praying for our cars to survive at least another 15 years, bud 🙏 permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 4 points 3 months ago (1 child) I daily a 1985, how boned do you think I am? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Holytimes@sh.itjust.works 0 points 3 months ago (1 child) You got another 15-20 years before parts are basically unobtainable with out three arms and a kidney in cost :P permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 1 point 3 months ago Well I had a 1966 chrysler 300 (that car hated me and I hated it back) and although curses be upon all dodge designers I could still get parts for it. And as for my fiero (the 1985) that I daily I do have 2 other parts cars to pull from and a good amount of people making aftermarket parts today. The sad part is that all of the stupid cars I have had and have are still less money and stomach pain then a new car. (the 3 fieros and 300 all added together where under $6000 in car/parts/time and that is over the last 5 years) permalink fedilink source parent [–] 7U5K3N@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 3 months ago Yeah agreed. One of the great things about the outback is there's a DIY group around it. So there's a lot of YouTube videos out there on car maintenance and upgrades etc So that kind of where I'm at with it these days too permalink fedilink source parent [–] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 2 points 3 months ago (1 child) Oh, your going to fix that yourself? Or pay someone to do it? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 1 point 3 months ago (1 child) honestly i haven't been able to fix anything myself since my 1989 three horsepower crapstack. not enough room in the engine compartment. I've got a good mechanic tho, so it's not too much of a problem. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 2 points 3 months ago (1 child) I like fixing my own crap and used to fix laptops and the like in my old job. I am fairly comfortable working on anything 2008 and before, basicly as long as the car is not using fucking canbus or serialized parts. Had enough canbus in my life from the damned German cash recyclers. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago (1 child) My motto is, it's already broke what more can I do to it permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 2 points 3 months ago If it ain't ain't broke, don't not fix it. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] sigmaklimgrindset@sopuli.xyz 10 points 3 months ago (2 children) Naaaaah, my 2016 RAV4 Hybrid is balling. Back up camera, 360 sensors, remote start, heated seats, medium screen with buttons and knobs instead of touch, push start, stick shift, and the best part: no wifi on-board (through my phone only). Cars peaked right here. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] 7U5K3N@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 3 months ago (1 child) I have a 2016 outback. No android auto... But I'm in the same boat. Backup camera. Sensors self driving no wifi no forced updates. Etc. I don't need anything more. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] sigmaklimgrindset@sopuli.xyz 4 points 3 months ago (2 children) Praying for our cars to survive at least another 15 years, bud 🙏 permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 4 points 3 months ago (1 child) I daily a 1985, how boned do you think I am? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Holytimes@sh.itjust.works 0 points 3 months ago (1 child) You got another 15-20 years before parts are basically unobtainable with out three arms and a kidney in cost :P permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 1 point 3 months ago Well I had a 1966 chrysler 300 (that car hated me and I hated it back) and although curses be upon all dodge designers I could still get parts for it. And as for my fiero (the 1985) that I daily I do have 2 other parts cars to pull from and a good amount of people making aftermarket parts today. The sad part is that all of the stupid cars I have had and have are still less money and stomach pain then a new car. (the 3 fieros and 300 all added together where under $6000 in car/parts/time and that is over the last 5 years) permalink fedilink source parent [–] 7U5K3N@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 3 months ago Yeah agreed. One of the great things about the outback is there's a DIY group around it. So there's a lot of YouTube videos out there on car maintenance and upgrades etc So that kind of where I'm at with it these days too permalink fedilink source parent [–] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 2 points 3 months ago (1 child) Oh, your going to fix that yourself? Or pay someone to do it? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 1 point 3 months ago (1 child) honestly i haven't been able to fix anything myself since my 1989 three horsepower crapstack. not enough room in the engine compartment. I've got a good mechanic tho, so it's not too much of a problem. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 2 points 3 months ago (1 child) I like fixing my own crap and used to fix laptops and the like in my old job. I am fairly comfortable working on anything 2008 and before, basicly as long as the car is not using fucking canbus or serialized parts. Had enough canbus in my life from the damned German cash recyclers. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago (1 child) My motto is, it's already broke what more can I do to it permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 2 points 3 months ago If it ain't ain't broke, don't not fix it. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] 7U5K3N@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 3 months ago (1 child) I have a 2016 outback. No android auto... But I'm in the same boat. Backup camera. Sensors self driving no wifi no forced updates. Etc. I don't need anything more. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] sigmaklimgrindset@sopuli.xyz 4 points 3 months ago (2 children) Praying for our cars to survive at least another 15 years, bud 🙏 permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 4 points 3 months ago (1 child) I daily a 1985, how boned do you think I am? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Holytimes@sh.itjust.works 0 points 3 months ago (1 child) You got another 15-20 years before parts are basically unobtainable with out three arms and a kidney in cost :P permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 1 point 3 months ago Well I had a 1966 chrysler 300 (that car hated me and I hated it back) and although curses be upon all dodge designers I could still get parts for it. And as for my fiero (the 1985) that I daily I do have 2 other parts cars to pull from and a good amount of people making aftermarket parts today. The sad part is that all of the stupid cars I have had and have are still less money and stomach pain then a new car. (the 3 fieros and 300 all added together where under $6000 in car/parts/time and that is over the last 5 years) permalink fedilink source parent [–] 7U5K3N@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 3 months ago Yeah agreed. One of the great things about the outback is there's a DIY group around it. So there's a lot of YouTube videos out there on car maintenance and upgrades etc So that kind of where I'm at with it these days too permalink fedilink source parent
[–] sigmaklimgrindset@sopuli.xyz 4 points 3 months ago (2 children) Praying for our cars to survive at least another 15 years, bud 🙏 permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 4 points 3 months ago (1 child) I daily a 1985, how boned do you think I am? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Holytimes@sh.itjust.works 0 points 3 months ago (1 child) You got another 15-20 years before parts are basically unobtainable with out three arms and a kidney in cost :P permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 1 point 3 months ago Well I had a 1966 chrysler 300 (that car hated me and I hated it back) and although curses be upon all dodge designers I could still get parts for it. And as for my fiero (the 1985) that I daily I do have 2 other parts cars to pull from and a good amount of people making aftermarket parts today. The sad part is that all of the stupid cars I have had and have are still less money and stomach pain then a new car. (the 3 fieros and 300 all added together where under $6000 in car/parts/time and that is over the last 5 years) permalink fedilink source parent [–] 7U5K3N@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 3 months ago Yeah agreed. One of the great things about the outback is there's a DIY group around it. So there's a lot of YouTube videos out there on car maintenance and upgrades etc So that kind of where I'm at with it these days too permalink fedilink source parent
[–] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 4 points 3 months ago (1 child) I daily a 1985, how boned do you think I am? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Holytimes@sh.itjust.works 0 points 3 months ago (1 child) You got another 15-20 years before parts are basically unobtainable with out three arms and a kidney in cost :P permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 1 point 3 months ago Well I had a 1966 chrysler 300 (that car hated me and I hated it back) and although curses be upon all dodge designers I could still get parts for it. And as for my fiero (the 1985) that I daily I do have 2 other parts cars to pull from and a good amount of people making aftermarket parts today. The sad part is that all of the stupid cars I have had and have are still less money and stomach pain then a new car. (the 3 fieros and 300 all added together where under $6000 in car/parts/time and that is over the last 5 years) permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Holytimes@sh.itjust.works 0 points 3 months ago (1 child) You got another 15-20 years before parts are basically unobtainable with out three arms and a kidney in cost :P permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 1 point 3 months ago Well I had a 1966 chrysler 300 (that car hated me and I hated it back) and although curses be upon all dodge designers I could still get parts for it. And as for my fiero (the 1985) that I daily I do have 2 other parts cars to pull from and a good amount of people making aftermarket parts today. The sad part is that all of the stupid cars I have had and have are still less money and stomach pain then a new car. (the 3 fieros and 300 all added together where under $6000 in car/parts/time and that is over the last 5 years) permalink fedilink source parent
[–] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 1 point 3 months ago Well I had a 1966 chrysler 300 (that car hated me and I hated it back) and although curses be upon all dodge designers I could still get parts for it. And as for my fiero (the 1985) that I daily I do have 2 other parts cars to pull from and a good amount of people making aftermarket parts today. The sad part is that all of the stupid cars I have had and have are still less money and stomach pain then a new car. (the 3 fieros and 300 all added together where under $6000 in car/parts/time and that is over the last 5 years) permalink fedilink source parent
[–] 7U5K3N@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 3 months ago Yeah agreed. One of the great things about the outback is there's a DIY group around it. So there's a lot of YouTube videos out there on car maintenance and upgrades etc So that kind of where I'm at with it these days too permalink fedilink source parent
[–] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 2 points 3 months ago (1 child) Oh, your going to fix that yourself? Or pay someone to do it? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 1 point 3 months ago (1 child) honestly i haven't been able to fix anything myself since my 1989 three horsepower crapstack. not enough room in the engine compartment. I've got a good mechanic tho, so it's not too much of a problem. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 2 points 3 months ago (1 child) I like fixing my own crap and used to fix laptops and the like in my old job. I am fairly comfortable working on anything 2008 and before, basicly as long as the car is not using fucking canbus or serialized parts. Had enough canbus in my life from the damned German cash recyclers. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago (1 child) My motto is, it's already broke what more can I do to it permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 2 points 3 months ago If it ain't ain't broke, don't not fix it. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 1 point 3 months ago (1 child) honestly i haven't been able to fix anything myself since my 1989 three horsepower crapstack. not enough room in the engine compartment. I've got a good mechanic tho, so it's not too much of a problem. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 2 points 3 months ago (1 child) I like fixing my own crap and used to fix laptops and the like in my old job. I am fairly comfortable working on anything 2008 and before, basicly as long as the car is not using fucking canbus or serialized parts. Had enough canbus in my life from the damned German cash recyclers. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago (1 child) My motto is, it's already broke what more can I do to it permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 2 points 3 months ago If it ain't ain't broke, don't not fix it. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 2 points 3 months ago (1 child) I like fixing my own crap and used to fix laptops and the like in my old job. I am fairly comfortable working on anything 2008 and before, basicly as long as the car is not using fucking canbus or serialized parts. Had enough canbus in my life from the damned German cash recyclers. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago (1 child) My motto is, it's already broke what more can I do to it permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 2 points 3 months ago If it ain't ain't broke, don't not fix it. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago (1 child) My motto is, it's already broke what more can I do to it permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 2 points 3 months ago If it ain't ain't broke, don't not fix it. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 2 points 3 months ago If it ain't ain't broke, don't not fix it. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] themachine@lemmy.world 1 point 3 months ago (1 child) Hm. Well I certainly agree that privacy invasive stuff is absolutely unwelcome but I'm also a pretty big fan of backup cameras. I bought a 2023 and while it does have the "infotainment" and backup can, outside of that it's all quite dum and everything outside of like bluetooth paring and general infotainment stuff is all physical buttons. So really my point is while it is unusual, even brand new vehicles can manage to avoid the privacy nightmare. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FauxLiving@lemmy.world 1 point 3 months ago Oh yeah, I like backup cameras too and they're probably saving a lot of people from injury or death. Very much worth requiring, IMO. It's just the fact that many of these companies saw the opportunity to monetize the hardware that regulations were forcing them to install so we started seeing a lot more "data harvesting". If you were going to pick a year to avoid, 2018 makes logical sense from that perspective. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] FauxLiving@lemmy.world 1 point 3 months ago Oh yeah, I like backup cameras too and they're probably saving a lot of people from injury or death. Very much worth requiring, IMO. It's just the fact that many of these companies saw the opportunity to monetize the hardware that regulations were forcing them to install so we started seeing a lot more "data harvesting". If you were going to pick a year to avoid, 2018 makes logical sense from that perspective. permalink fedilink source parent