▲ 132 ▼ What would the next pres of USA have to do to gain back trust for America? Hold a televised event saying the last person was just a fuck up? (lemmy.world) submitted 3 months ago by Patnou@lemmy.world to c/nostupidquestions@lemmy.world 175 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[–] Impronoucabl@lemmy.world 35 points 3 months ago (1 child) That's still not enough. Even if you rewrite the rules, you need to show that the opposing side also supports the same rules. Hence the end of rules-based order. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Rhynoplaz@lemmy.world -1 points 3 months ago (2 children) That was my bad, I got it in my head that we were talking about fixing the fuck ups. You're right, trust will take time, but I think everyone will be willing to at least give us a chance once the orange one is gone. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] meco03211@lemmy.world 20 points 3 months ago No they won't. He was in once and then gone. But he came back and so much worse. He has demonstrated that not only is there enough appetite among the voting populace for his brand of hate and violence, but that our institutions are woefully incapable of protecting their own country let alone the fucking world. Prior to that I'm sure most of the world would have thought straight up kidnapping a "democratically" elected world leader and a full on unprovoked war (in all but name) would be impossible. But here we are. Anything short of an actual uprising or revolution won't be sufficient on their own. I'd bet good money we don't have a chance at seeing a return to the position and soft power we held for at least half a century. permalink fedilink source parent [–] CileTheSane@lemmy.ca 3 points 3 months ago The Orange one has demonstrated how useless the system is at dealing with him. It doesn't matter what the next guy says, everyone has seen that the guy after that can just blatantly ignore the rules again, tear up and ignore agreements, and nothing will stop him. That's the real problem. The promises and signed agreements of America mean nothing now. I don't know how you fix that without some serious structural changes and some way of proving those changes will be actually enforced. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Rhynoplaz@lemmy.world -1 points 3 months ago (2 children) That was my bad, I got it in my head that we were talking about fixing the fuck ups. You're right, trust will take time, but I think everyone will be willing to at least give us a chance once the orange one is gone. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] meco03211@lemmy.world 20 points 3 months ago No they won't. He was in once and then gone. But he came back and so much worse. He has demonstrated that not only is there enough appetite among the voting populace for his brand of hate and violence, but that our institutions are woefully incapable of protecting their own country let alone the fucking world. Prior to that I'm sure most of the world would have thought straight up kidnapping a "democratically" elected world leader and a full on unprovoked war (in all but name) would be impossible. But here we are. Anything short of an actual uprising or revolution won't be sufficient on their own. I'd bet good money we don't have a chance at seeing a return to the position and soft power we held for at least half a century. permalink fedilink source parent [–] CileTheSane@lemmy.ca 3 points 3 months ago The Orange one has demonstrated how useless the system is at dealing with him. It doesn't matter what the next guy says, everyone has seen that the guy after that can just blatantly ignore the rules again, tear up and ignore agreements, and nothing will stop him. That's the real problem. The promises and signed agreements of America mean nothing now. I don't know how you fix that without some serious structural changes and some way of proving those changes will be actually enforced. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] meco03211@lemmy.world 20 points 3 months ago No they won't. He was in once and then gone. But he came back and so much worse. He has demonstrated that not only is there enough appetite among the voting populace for his brand of hate and violence, but that our institutions are woefully incapable of protecting their own country let alone the fucking world. Prior to that I'm sure most of the world would have thought straight up kidnapping a "democratically" elected world leader and a full on unprovoked war (in all but name) would be impossible. But here we are. Anything short of an actual uprising or revolution won't be sufficient on their own. I'd bet good money we don't have a chance at seeing a return to the position and soft power we held for at least half a century. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] CileTheSane@lemmy.ca 3 points 3 months ago The Orange one has demonstrated how useless the system is at dealing with him. It doesn't matter what the next guy says, everyone has seen that the guy after that can just blatantly ignore the rules again, tear up and ignore agreements, and nothing will stop him. That's the real problem. The promises and signed agreements of America mean nothing now. I don't know how you fix that without some serious structural changes and some way of proving those changes will be actually enforced. permalink fedilink source parent