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[–] panda_abyss@lemmy.ca 76 points 3 months ago (2 children) I am once again condemning the UK for building a surveillance state beyond what Orwell could truly envision. permalink fedilink source hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] yottle@kopitalk.net 18 points 3 months ago (1 child) Yeah things are really looking bleak over there. That plus their recent attacks on free speech (you can get arrested for supporting "Palestinian action") paint a very dystopian picture for the future of the UK permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] greyfrog@sh.itjust.works -16 points 3 months ago (2 children) Did you ever bother to look into why Palestine Action was singled out? How one of their members assaulted someone with a hammer or something? You can support Palestine without supporting that group, lol. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] CaptObvious@literature.cafe 14 points 3 months ago (1 child) one of their members Isn’t collective punishment a violation of human rights, according to the UN? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] greyfrog@sh.itjust.works -10 points 3 months ago (1 child) Would you say the same if one member of a group was a Nazi? No, you'd rightly assume they're all nazis. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] CaptObvious@literature.cafe 12 points 3 months ago (1 child) Nice ASSumption. Actually, yeah, I’d say exactly the same. Human rights are human rights. Fortunately, it isn’t up to people like you to decide who gets them permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] greyfrog@sh.itjust.works -6 points 3 months ago (1 child) Guy who wants to not ban groups that assault people doesn't want people to have the right to decide and vote on human rights. The irony. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] CaptObvious@literature.cafe 11 points 3 months ago (1 child) Since they’re rights, they are inherent. You don’t get to vote on them permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] greyfrog@sh.itjust.works -8 points 3 months ago* (2 children) Oh, you're an American. I don't know why anyone bothers. We vote for them by voting for the parties propose legislative changes. See the Human Rights Act. Edit: And just for the record I 100% support Palestine. I don't support Palestine Action. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] CaptObvious@literature.cafe 8 points 3 months ago (1 child) I don't know why anyone bothers. And yet, here you are. Feel free to stop at any time permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] greyfrog@sh.itjust.works -2 points 3 months ago (1 child) For a "professor" that was pretty weak response xD permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] CaptObvious@literature.cafe 1 point 3 months ago (1 child) In my defense, it was before dawn here. I’ll do better next time :D FWIW, I generally agree with you about “Why bother?” With regard to Americans. We seem to have become a population dominated by zealots of one ilk or another in all the federally overrepresented states. It’s exhausting. Most days, I think the US would be better off if Cornwallis hadn’t surrendered. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] greyfrog@sh.itjust.works 2 points 3 months ago (1 child) Well we're not doing much better over here. Thr world has gone mad. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] CaptObvious@literature.cafe 1 point 3 months ago Mandela Effect on a global scale. I don’t like this timeline. I want to get back to the real one ASAP. ;) permalink fedilink source parent [–] yottle@kopitalk.net 7 points 3 months ago (1 child) Oh, you’re an American. Say what you will about the US. It's far from perfect. But their legal model for human rights is more robust than many of their peer countries. The fact that free speech is constitutionally protected there is good thing and the fact that free speech is dependent on majority support is a weakness of the UK system; that is, after all, how the UK got themselves into this current situation. (I'm not American btw, and I'm by no means a big fan of the US. But still, you have to give credit where credit is due.) permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] greyfrog@sh.itjust.works -3 points 3 months ago (1 child) They literally murdered their own citizens in broad daylight and it was filmed. But yes, in theory they can say what they want. See how it's often used to belittle minorities and gay people. Brilliant system. Couldn't fault it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] yottle@kopitalk.net 5 points 3 months ago* Brilliant system. Couldn’t fault it. If you read my original comment, you'll notice that I said the US is far from perfect and I'm not a big fan. That said, it's an incredibly unnuanced take to think that literally everything the US does is evil. They do at least some things right, even if you want to argue that, on balance, they suck. And one of the things that they do do right is their protections of free speech. This prevents a situation where you can arrest people for protesting in support of Palestine, as currently happens in the UK and Australia. permalink fedilink source parent [–] DamienGramatacus@lemmy.world 5 points 3 months ago (1 child) Or something... Glad you came prepared. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] greyfrog@sh.itjust.works -11 points 3 months ago I'm sorry is this an Internet message board or a thesis? Do you're own research I'm not your fucking mother. permalink fedilink source parent [+] greyfrog@sh.itjust.works -18 points 3 months ago (1 child) Go on then, give me some reasons? Or you just someone who reads too much "news"? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] panda_abyss@lemmy.ca 8 points 3 months ago (1 child) Points at headline permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] greyfrog@sh.itjust.works -8 points 3 months ago Yes. Literally Orwellian. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] yottle@kopitalk.net 18 points 3 months ago (1 child) Yeah things are really looking bleak over there. That plus their recent attacks on free speech (you can get arrested for supporting "Palestinian action") paint a very dystopian picture for the future of the UK permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] greyfrog@sh.itjust.works -16 points 3 months ago (2 children) Did you ever bother to look into why Palestine Action was singled out? How one of their members assaulted someone with a hammer or something? You can support Palestine without supporting that group, lol. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] CaptObvious@literature.cafe 14 points 3 months ago (1 child) one of their members Isn’t collective punishment a violation of human rights, according to the UN? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] greyfrog@sh.itjust.works -10 points 3 months ago (1 child) Would you say the same if one member of a group was a Nazi? No, you'd rightly assume they're all nazis. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] CaptObvious@literature.cafe 12 points 3 months ago (1 child) Nice ASSumption. Actually, yeah, I’d say exactly the same. Human rights are human rights. Fortunately, it isn’t up to people like you to decide who gets them permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] greyfrog@sh.itjust.works -6 points 3 months ago (1 child) Guy who wants to not ban groups that assault people doesn't want people to have the right to decide and vote on human rights. The irony. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] CaptObvious@literature.cafe 11 points 3 months ago (1 child) Since they’re rights, they are inherent. You don’t get to vote on them permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] greyfrog@sh.itjust.works -8 points 3 months ago* (2 children) Oh, you're an American. I don't know why anyone bothers. We vote for them by voting for the parties propose legislative changes. See the Human Rights Act. Edit: And just for the record I 100% support Palestine. I don't support Palestine Action. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] CaptObvious@literature.cafe 8 points 3 months ago (1 child) I don't know why anyone bothers. And yet, here you are. Feel free to stop at any time permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] greyfrog@sh.itjust.works -2 points 3 months ago (1 child) For a "professor" that was pretty weak response xD permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] CaptObvious@literature.cafe 1 point 3 months ago (1 child) In my defense, it was before dawn here. I’ll do better next time :D FWIW, I generally agree with you about “Why bother?” With regard to Americans. We seem to have become a population dominated by zealots of one ilk or another in all the federally overrepresented states. It’s exhausting. Most days, I think the US would be better off if Cornwallis hadn’t surrendered. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] greyfrog@sh.itjust.works 2 points 3 months ago (1 child) Well we're not doing much better over here. Thr world has gone mad. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] CaptObvious@literature.cafe 1 point 3 months ago Mandela Effect on a global scale. I don’t like this timeline. I want to get back to the real one ASAP. ;) permalink fedilink source parent [–] yottle@kopitalk.net 7 points 3 months ago (1 child) Oh, you’re an American. Say what you will about the US. It's far from perfect. But their legal model for human rights is more robust than many of their peer countries. The fact that free speech is constitutionally protected there is good thing and the fact that free speech is dependent on majority support is a weakness of the UK system; that is, after all, how the UK got themselves into this current situation. (I'm not American btw, and I'm by no means a big fan of the US. But still, you have to give credit where credit is due.) permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] greyfrog@sh.itjust.works -3 points 3 months ago (1 child) They literally murdered their own citizens in broad daylight and it was filmed. But yes, in theory they can say what they want. See how it's often used to belittle minorities and gay people. Brilliant system. Couldn't fault it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] yottle@kopitalk.net 5 points 3 months ago* Brilliant system. Couldn’t fault it. If you read my original comment, you'll notice that I said the US is far from perfect and I'm not a big fan. That said, it's an incredibly unnuanced take to think that literally everything the US does is evil. They do at least some things right, even if you want to argue that, on balance, they suck. And one of the things that they do do right is their protections of free speech. This prevents a situation where you can arrest people for protesting in support of Palestine, as currently happens in the UK and Australia. permalink fedilink source parent [–] DamienGramatacus@lemmy.world 5 points 3 months ago (1 child) Or something... Glad you came prepared. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] greyfrog@sh.itjust.works -11 points 3 months ago I'm sorry is this an Internet message board or a thesis? Do you're own research I'm not your fucking mother. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] greyfrog@sh.itjust.works -16 points 3 months ago (2 children) Did you ever bother to look into why Palestine Action was singled out? How one of their members assaulted someone with a hammer or something? You can support Palestine without supporting that group, lol. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] CaptObvious@literature.cafe 14 points 3 months ago (1 child) one of their members Isn’t collective punishment a violation of human rights, according to the UN? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] greyfrog@sh.itjust.works -10 points 3 months ago (1 child) Would you say the same if one member of a group was a Nazi? No, you'd rightly assume they're all nazis. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] CaptObvious@literature.cafe 12 points 3 months ago (1 child) Nice ASSumption. Actually, yeah, I’d say exactly the same. Human rights are human rights. Fortunately, it isn’t up to people like you to decide who gets them permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] greyfrog@sh.itjust.works -6 points 3 months ago (1 child) Guy who wants to not ban groups that assault people doesn't want people to have the right to decide and vote on human rights. The irony. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] CaptObvious@literature.cafe 11 points 3 months ago (1 child) Since they’re rights, they are inherent. You don’t get to vote on them permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] greyfrog@sh.itjust.works -8 points 3 months ago* (2 children) Oh, you're an American. I don't know why anyone bothers. We vote for them by voting for the parties propose legislative changes. See the Human Rights Act. Edit: And just for the record I 100% support Palestine. I don't support Palestine Action. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] CaptObvious@literature.cafe 8 points 3 months ago (1 child) I don't know why anyone bothers. And yet, here you are. Feel free to stop at any time permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] greyfrog@sh.itjust.works -2 points 3 months ago (1 child) For a "professor" that was pretty weak response xD permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] CaptObvious@literature.cafe 1 point 3 months ago (1 child) In my defense, it was before dawn here. I’ll do better next time :D FWIW, I generally agree with you about “Why bother?” With regard to Americans. We seem to have become a population dominated by zealots of one ilk or another in all the federally overrepresented states. It’s exhausting. Most days, I think the US would be better off if Cornwallis hadn’t surrendered. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] greyfrog@sh.itjust.works 2 points 3 months ago (1 child) Well we're not doing much better over here. Thr world has gone mad. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] CaptObvious@literature.cafe 1 point 3 months ago Mandela Effect on a global scale. I don’t like this timeline. I want to get back to the real one ASAP. ;) permalink fedilink source parent [–] yottle@kopitalk.net 7 points 3 months ago (1 child) Oh, you’re an American. Say what you will about the US. It's far from perfect. But their legal model for human rights is more robust than many of their peer countries. The fact that free speech is constitutionally protected there is good thing and the fact that free speech is dependent on majority support is a weakness of the UK system; that is, after all, how the UK got themselves into this current situation. (I'm not American btw, and I'm by no means a big fan of the US. But still, you have to give credit where credit is due.) permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] greyfrog@sh.itjust.works -3 points 3 months ago (1 child) They literally murdered their own citizens in broad daylight and it was filmed. But yes, in theory they can say what they want. See how it's often used to belittle minorities and gay people. Brilliant system. Couldn't fault it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] yottle@kopitalk.net 5 points 3 months ago* Brilliant system. Couldn’t fault it. If you read my original comment, you'll notice that I said the US is far from perfect and I'm not a big fan. That said, it's an incredibly unnuanced take to think that literally everything the US does is evil. They do at least some things right, even if you want to argue that, on balance, they suck. And one of the things that they do do right is their protections of free speech. This prevents a situation where you can arrest people for protesting in support of Palestine, as currently happens in the UK and Australia. permalink fedilink source parent [–] DamienGramatacus@lemmy.world 5 points 3 months ago (1 child) Or something... Glad you came prepared. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] greyfrog@sh.itjust.works -11 points 3 months ago I'm sorry is this an Internet message board or a thesis? Do you're own research I'm not your fucking mother. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] CaptObvious@literature.cafe 14 points 3 months ago (1 child) one of their members Isn’t collective punishment a violation of human rights, according to the UN? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] greyfrog@sh.itjust.works -10 points 3 months ago (1 child) Would you say the same if one member of a group was a Nazi? No, you'd rightly assume they're all nazis. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] CaptObvious@literature.cafe 12 points 3 months ago (1 child) Nice ASSumption. Actually, yeah, I’d say exactly the same. Human rights are human rights. Fortunately, it isn’t up to people like you to decide who gets them permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] greyfrog@sh.itjust.works -6 points 3 months ago (1 child) Guy who wants to not ban groups that assault people doesn't want people to have the right to decide and vote on human rights. The irony. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] CaptObvious@literature.cafe 11 points 3 months ago (1 child) Since they’re rights, they are inherent. You don’t get to vote on them permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] greyfrog@sh.itjust.works -8 points 3 months ago* (2 children) Oh, you're an American. I don't know why anyone bothers. We vote for them by voting for the parties propose legislative changes. See the Human Rights Act. Edit: And just for the record I 100% support Palestine. I don't support Palestine Action. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] CaptObvious@literature.cafe 8 points 3 months ago (1 child) I don't know why anyone bothers. And yet, here you are. Feel free to stop at any time permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] greyfrog@sh.itjust.works -2 points 3 months ago (1 child) For a "professor" that was pretty weak response xD permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] CaptObvious@literature.cafe 1 point 3 months ago (1 child) In my defense, it was before dawn here. I’ll do better next time :D FWIW, I generally agree with you about “Why bother?” With regard to Americans. We seem to have become a population dominated by zealots of one ilk or another in all the federally overrepresented states. It’s exhausting. Most days, I think the US would be better off if Cornwallis hadn’t surrendered. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] greyfrog@sh.itjust.works 2 points 3 months ago (1 child) Well we're not doing much better over here. Thr world has gone mad. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] CaptObvious@literature.cafe 1 point 3 months ago Mandela Effect on a global scale. I don’t like this timeline. I want to get back to the real one ASAP. ;) permalink fedilink source parent [–] yottle@kopitalk.net 7 points 3 months ago (1 child) Oh, you’re an American. Say what you will about the US. It's far from perfect. But their legal model for human rights is more robust than many of their peer countries. The fact that free speech is constitutionally protected there is good thing and the fact that free speech is dependent on majority support is a weakness of the UK system; that is, after all, how the UK got themselves into this current situation. (I'm not American btw, and I'm by no means a big fan of the US. But still, you have to give credit where credit is due.) permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] greyfrog@sh.itjust.works -3 points 3 months ago (1 child) They literally murdered their own citizens in broad daylight and it was filmed. But yes, in theory they can say what they want. See how it's often used to belittle minorities and gay people. Brilliant system. Couldn't fault it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] yottle@kopitalk.net 5 points 3 months ago* Brilliant system. Couldn’t fault it. If you read my original comment, you'll notice that I said the US is far from perfect and I'm not a big fan. That said, it's an incredibly unnuanced take to think that literally everything the US does is evil. They do at least some things right, even if you want to argue that, on balance, they suck. And one of the things that they do do right is their protections of free speech. This prevents a situation where you can arrest people for protesting in support of Palestine, as currently happens in the UK and Australia. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] greyfrog@sh.itjust.works -10 points 3 months ago (1 child) Would you say the same if one member of a group was a Nazi? No, you'd rightly assume they're all nazis. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] CaptObvious@literature.cafe 12 points 3 months ago (1 child) Nice ASSumption. Actually, yeah, I’d say exactly the same. Human rights are human rights. Fortunately, it isn’t up to people like you to decide who gets them permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] greyfrog@sh.itjust.works -6 points 3 months ago (1 child) Guy who wants to not ban groups that assault people doesn't want people to have the right to decide and vote on human rights. The irony. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] CaptObvious@literature.cafe 11 points 3 months ago (1 child) Since they’re rights, they are inherent. You don’t get to vote on them permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] greyfrog@sh.itjust.works -8 points 3 months ago* (2 children) Oh, you're an American. I don't know why anyone bothers. We vote for them by voting for the parties propose legislative changes. See the Human Rights Act. Edit: And just for the record I 100% support Palestine. I don't support Palestine Action. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] CaptObvious@literature.cafe 8 points 3 months ago (1 child) I don't know why anyone bothers. And yet, here you are. Feel free to stop at any time permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] greyfrog@sh.itjust.works -2 points 3 months ago (1 child) For a "professor" that was pretty weak response xD permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] CaptObvious@literature.cafe 1 point 3 months ago (1 child) In my defense, it was before dawn here. I’ll do better next time :D FWIW, I generally agree with you about “Why bother?” With regard to Americans. We seem to have become a population dominated by zealots of one ilk or another in all the federally overrepresented states. It’s exhausting. Most days, I think the US would be better off if Cornwallis hadn’t surrendered. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] greyfrog@sh.itjust.works 2 points 3 months ago (1 child) Well we're not doing much better over here. Thr world has gone mad. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] CaptObvious@literature.cafe 1 point 3 months ago Mandela Effect on a global scale. I don’t like this timeline. I want to get back to the real one ASAP. ;) permalink fedilink source parent [–] yottle@kopitalk.net 7 points 3 months ago (1 child) Oh, you’re an American. Say what you will about the US. It's far from perfect. But their legal model for human rights is more robust than many of their peer countries. The fact that free speech is constitutionally protected there is good thing and the fact that free speech is dependent on majority support is a weakness of the UK system; that is, after all, how the UK got themselves into this current situation. (I'm not American btw, and I'm by no means a big fan of the US. But still, you have to give credit where credit is due.) permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] greyfrog@sh.itjust.works -3 points 3 months ago (1 child) They literally murdered their own citizens in broad daylight and it was filmed. But yes, in theory they can say what they want. See how it's often used to belittle minorities and gay people. Brilliant system. Couldn't fault it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] yottle@kopitalk.net 5 points 3 months ago* Brilliant system. Couldn’t fault it. If you read my original comment, you'll notice that I said the US is far from perfect and I'm not a big fan. That said, it's an incredibly unnuanced take to think that literally everything the US does is evil. They do at least some things right, even if you want to argue that, on balance, they suck. And one of the things that they do do right is their protections of free speech. This prevents a situation where you can arrest people for protesting in support of Palestine, as currently happens in the UK and Australia. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] CaptObvious@literature.cafe 12 points 3 months ago (1 child) Nice ASSumption. Actually, yeah, I’d say exactly the same. Human rights are human rights. Fortunately, it isn’t up to people like you to decide who gets them permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] greyfrog@sh.itjust.works -6 points 3 months ago (1 child) Guy who wants to not ban groups that assault people doesn't want people to have the right to decide and vote on human rights. The irony. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] CaptObvious@literature.cafe 11 points 3 months ago (1 child) Since they’re rights, they are inherent. You don’t get to vote on them permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] greyfrog@sh.itjust.works -8 points 3 months ago* (2 children) Oh, you're an American. I don't know why anyone bothers. We vote for them by voting for the parties propose legislative changes. See the Human Rights Act. Edit: And just for the record I 100% support Palestine. I don't support Palestine Action. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] CaptObvious@literature.cafe 8 points 3 months ago (1 child) I don't know why anyone bothers. And yet, here you are. Feel free to stop at any time permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] greyfrog@sh.itjust.works -2 points 3 months ago (1 child) For a "professor" that was pretty weak response xD permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] CaptObvious@literature.cafe 1 point 3 months ago (1 child) In my defense, it was before dawn here. I’ll do better next time :D FWIW, I generally agree with you about “Why bother?” With regard to Americans. We seem to have become a population dominated by zealots of one ilk or another in all the federally overrepresented states. It’s exhausting. Most days, I think the US would be better off if Cornwallis hadn’t surrendered. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] greyfrog@sh.itjust.works 2 points 3 months ago (1 child) Well we're not doing much better over here. Thr world has gone mad. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] CaptObvious@literature.cafe 1 point 3 months ago Mandela Effect on a global scale. I don’t like this timeline. I want to get back to the real one ASAP. ;) permalink fedilink source parent [–] yottle@kopitalk.net 7 points 3 months ago (1 child) Oh, you’re an American. Say what you will about the US. It's far from perfect. But their legal model for human rights is more robust than many of their peer countries. The fact that free speech is constitutionally protected there is good thing and the fact that free speech is dependent on majority support is a weakness of the UK system; that is, after all, how the UK got themselves into this current situation. (I'm not American btw, and I'm by no means a big fan of the US. But still, you have to give credit where credit is due.) permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] greyfrog@sh.itjust.works -3 points 3 months ago (1 child) They literally murdered their own citizens in broad daylight and it was filmed. But yes, in theory they can say what they want. See how it's often used to belittle minorities and gay people. Brilliant system. Couldn't fault it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] yottle@kopitalk.net 5 points 3 months ago* Brilliant system. Couldn’t fault it. If you read my original comment, you'll notice that I said the US is far from perfect and I'm not a big fan. That said, it's an incredibly unnuanced take to think that literally everything the US does is evil. They do at least some things right, even if you want to argue that, on balance, they suck. And one of the things that they do do right is their protections of free speech. This prevents a situation where you can arrest people for protesting in support of Palestine, as currently happens in the UK and Australia. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] greyfrog@sh.itjust.works -6 points 3 months ago (1 child) Guy who wants to not ban groups that assault people doesn't want people to have the right to decide and vote on human rights. The irony. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] CaptObvious@literature.cafe 11 points 3 months ago (1 child) Since they’re rights, they are inherent. You don’t get to vote on them permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] greyfrog@sh.itjust.works -8 points 3 months ago* (2 children) Oh, you're an American. I don't know why anyone bothers. We vote for them by voting for the parties propose legislative changes. See the Human Rights Act. Edit: And just for the record I 100% support Palestine. I don't support Palestine Action. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] CaptObvious@literature.cafe 8 points 3 months ago (1 child) I don't know why anyone bothers. And yet, here you are. Feel free to stop at any time permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] greyfrog@sh.itjust.works -2 points 3 months ago (1 child) For a "professor" that was pretty weak response xD permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] CaptObvious@literature.cafe 1 point 3 months ago (1 child) In my defense, it was before dawn here. I’ll do better next time :D FWIW, I generally agree with you about “Why bother?” With regard to Americans. We seem to have become a population dominated by zealots of one ilk or another in all the federally overrepresented states. It’s exhausting. Most days, I think the US would be better off if Cornwallis hadn’t surrendered. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] greyfrog@sh.itjust.works 2 points 3 months ago (1 child) Well we're not doing much better over here. Thr world has gone mad. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] CaptObvious@literature.cafe 1 point 3 months ago Mandela Effect on a global scale. I don’t like this timeline. I want to get back to the real one ASAP. ;) permalink fedilink source parent [–] yottle@kopitalk.net 7 points 3 months ago (1 child) Oh, you’re an American. Say what you will about the US. It's far from perfect. But their legal model for human rights is more robust than many of their peer countries. The fact that free speech is constitutionally protected there is good thing and the fact that free speech is dependent on majority support is a weakness of the UK system; that is, after all, how the UK got themselves into this current situation. (I'm not American btw, and I'm by no means a big fan of the US. But still, you have to give credit where credit is due.) permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] greyfrog@sh.itjust.works -3 points 3 months ago (1 child) They literally murdered their own citizens in broad daylight and it was filmed. But yes, in theory they can say what they want. See how it's often used to belittle minorities and gay people. Brilliant system. Couldn't fault it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] yottle@kopitalk.net 5 points 3 months ago* Brilliant system. Couldn’t fault it. If you read my original comment, you'll notice that I said the US is far from perfect and I'm not a big fan. That said, it's an incredibly unnuanced take to think that literally everything the US does is evil. They do at least some things right, even if you want to argue that, on balance, they suck. And one of the things that they do do right is their protections of free speech. This prevents a situation where you can arrest people for protesting in support of Palestine, as currently happens in the UK and Australia. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] CaptObvious@literature.cafe 11 points 3 months ago (1 child) Since they’re rights, they are inherent. You don’t get to vote on them permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] greyfrog@sh.itjust.works -8 points 3 months ago* (2 children) Oh, you're an American. I don't know why anyone bothers. We vote for them by voting for the parties propose legislative changes. See the Human Rights Act. Edit: And just for the record I 100% support Palestine. I don't support Palestine Action. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] CaptObvious@literature.cafe 8 points 3 months ago (1 child) I don't know why anyone bothers. And yet, here you are. Feel free to stop at any time permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] greyfrog@sh.itjust.works -2 points 3 months ago (1 child) For a "professor" that was pretty weak response xD permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] CaptObvious@literature.cafe 1 point 3 months ago (1 child) In my defense, it was before dawn here. I’ll do better next time :D FWIW, I generally agree with you about “Why bother?” With regard to Americans. We seem to have become a population dominated by zealots of one ilk or another in all the federally overrepresented states. It’s exhausting. Most days, I think the US would be better off if Cornwallis hadn’t surrendered. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] greyfrog@sh.itjust.works 2 points 3 months ago (1 child) Well we're not doing much better over here. Thr world has gone mad. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] CaptObvious@literature.cafe 1 point 3 months ago Mandela Effect on a global scale. I don’t like this timeline. I want to get back to the real one ASAP. ;) permalink fedilink source parent [–] yottle@kopitalk.net 7 points 3 months ago (1 child) Oh, you’re an American. Say what you will about the US. It's far from perfect. But their legal model for human rights is more robust than many of their peer countries. The fact that free speech is constitutionally protected there is good thing and the fact that free speech is dependent on majority support is a weakness of the UK system; that is, after all, how the UK got themselves into this current situation. (I'm not American btw, and I'm by no means a big fan of the US. But still, you have to give credit where credit is due.) permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] greyfrog@sh.itjust.works -3 points 3 months ago (1 child) They literally murdered their own citizens in broad daylight and it was filmed. But yes, in theory they can say what they want. See how it's often used to belittle minorities and gay people. Brilliant system. Couldn't fault it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] yottle@kopitalk.net 5 points 3 months ago* Brilliant system. Couldn’t fault it. If you read my original comment, you'll notice that I said the US is far from perfect and I'm not a big fan. That said, it's an incredibly unnuanced take to think that literally everything the US does is evil. They do at least some things right, even if you want to argue that, on balance, they suck. And one of the things that they do do right is their protections of free speech. This prevents a situation where you can arrest people for protesting in support of Palestine, as currently happens in the UK and Australia. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] greyfrog@sh.itjust.works -8 points 3 months ago* (2 children) Oh, you're an American. I don't know why anyone bothers. We vote for them by voting for the parties propose legislative changes. See the Human Rights Act. Edit: And just for the record I 100% support Palestine. I don't support Palestine Action. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] CaptObvious@literature.cafe 8 points 3 months ago (1 child) I don't know why anyone bothers. And yet, here you are. Feel free to stop at any time permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] greyfrog@sh.itjust.works -2 points 3 months ago (1 child) For a "professor" that was pretty weak response xD permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] CaptObvious@literature.cafe 1 point 3 months ago (1 child) In my defense, it was before dawn here. I’ll do better next time :D FWIW, I generally agree with you about “Why bother?” With regard to Americans. We seem to have become a population dominated by zealots of one ilk or another in all the federally overrepresented states. It’s exhausting. Most days, I think the US would be better off if Cornwallis hadn’t surrendered. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] greyfrog@sh.itjust.works 2 points 3 months ago (1 child) Well we're not doing much better over here. Thr world has gone mad. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] CaptObvious@literature.cafe 1 point 3 months ago Mandela Effect on a global scale. I don’t like this timeline. I want to get back to the real one ASAP. ;) permalink fedilink source parent [–] yottle@kopitalk.net 7 points 3 months ago (1 child) Oh, you’re an American. Say what you will about the US. It's far from perfect. But their legal model for human rights is more robust than many of their peer countries. The fact that free speech is constitutionally protected there is good thing and the fact that free speech is dependent on majority support is a weakness of the UK system; that is, after all, how the UK got themselves into this current situation. (I'm not American btw, and I'm by no means a big fan of the US. But still, you have to give credit where credit is due.) permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] greyfrog@sh.itjust.works -3 points 3 months ago (1 child) They literally murdered their own citizens in broad daylight and it was filmed. But yes, in theory they can say what they want. See how it's often used to belittle minorities and gay people. Brilliant system. Couldn't fault it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] yottle@kopitalk.net 5 points 3 months ago* Brilliant system. Couldn’t fault it. If you read my original comment, you'll notice that I said the US is far from perfect and I'm not a big fan. That said, it's an incredibly unnuanced take to think that literally everything the US does is evil. They do at least some things right, even if you want to argue that, on balance, they suck. And one of the things that they do do right is their protections of free speech. This prevents a situation where you can arrest people for protesting in support of Palestine, as currently happens in the UK and Australia. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] CaptObvious@literature.cafe 8 points 3 months ago (1 child) I don't know why anyone bothers. And yet, here you are. Feel free to stop at any time permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] greyfrog@sh.itjust.works -2 points 3 months ago (1 child) For a "professor" that was pretty weak response xD permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] CaptObvious@literature.cafe 1 point 3 months ago (1 child) In my defense, it was before dawn here. I’ll do better next time :D FWIW, I generally agree with you about “Why bother?” With regard to Americans. We seem to have become a population dominated by zealots of one ilk or another in all the federally overrepresented states. It’s exhausting. Most days, I think the US would be better off if Cornwallis hadn’t surrendered. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] greyfrog@sh.itjust.works 2 points 3 months ago (1 child) Well we're not doing much better over here. Thr world has gone mad. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] CaptObvious@literature.cafe 1 point 3 months ago Mandela Effect on a global scale. I don’t like this timeline. I want to get back to the real one ASAP. ;) permalink fedilink source parent
[–] greyfrog@sh.itjust.works -2 points 3 months ago (1 child) For a "professor" that was pretty weak response xD permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] CaptObvious@literature.cafe 1 point 3 months ago (1 child) In my defense, it was before dawn here. I’ll do better next time :D FWIW, I generally agree with you about “Why bother?” With regard to Americans. We seem to have become a population dominated by zealots of one ilk or another in all the federally overrepresented states. It’s exhausting. Most days, I think the US would be better off if Cornwallis hadn’t surrendered. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] greyfrog@sh.itjust.works 2 points 3 months ago (1 child) Well we're not doing much better over here. Thr world has gone mad. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] CaptObvious@literature.cafe 1 point 3 months ago Mandela Effect on a global scale. I don’t like this timeline. I want to get back to the real one ASAP. ;) permalink fedilink source parent
[–] CaptObvious@literature.cafe 1 point 3 months ago (1 child) In my defense, it was before dawn here. I’ll do better next time :D FWIW, I generally agree with you about “Why bother?” With regard to Americans. We seem to have become a population dominated by zealots of one ilk or another in all the federally overrepresented states. It’s exhausting. Most days, I think the US would be better off if Cornwallis hadn’t surrendered. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] greyfrog@sh.itjust.works 2 points 3 months ago (1 child) Well we're not doing much better over here. Thr world has gone mad. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] CaptObvious@literature.cafe 1 point 3 months ago Mandela Effect on a global scale. I don’t like this timeline. I want to get back to the real one ASAP. ;) permalink fedilink source parent
[–] greyfrog@sh.itjust.works 2 points 3 months ago (1 child) Well we're not doing much better over here. Thr world has gone mad. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] CaptObvious@literature.cafe 1 point 3 months ago Mandela Effect on a global scale. I don’t like this timeline. I want to get back to the real one ASAP. ;) permalink fedilink source parent
[–] CaptObvious@literature.cafe 1 point 3 months ago Mandela Effect on a global scale. I don’t like this timeline. I want to get back to the real one ASAP. ;) permalink fedilink source parent
[–] yottle@kopitalk.net 7 points 3 months ago (1 child) Oh, you’re an American. Say what you will about the US. It's far from perfect. But their legal model for human rights is more robust than many of their peer countries. The fact that free speech is constitutionally protected there is good thing and the fact that free speech is dependent on majority support is a weakness of the UK system; that is, after all, how the UK got themselves into this current situation. (I'm not American btw, and I'm by no means a big fan of the US. But still, you have to give credit where credit is due.) permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] greyfrog@sh.itjust.works -3 points 3 months ago (1 child) They literally murdered their own citizens in broad daylight and it was filmed. But yes, in theory they can say what they want. See how it's often used to belittle minorities and gay people. Brilliant system. Couldn't fault it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] yottle@kopitalk.net 5 points 3 months ago* Brilliant system. Couldn’t fault it. If you read my original comment, you'll notice that I said the US is far from perfect and I'm not a big fan. That said, it's an incredibly unnuanced take to think that literally everything the US does is evil. They do at least some things right, even if you want to argue that, on balance, they suck. And one of the things that they do do right is their protections of free speech. This prevents a situation where you can arrest people for protesting in support of Palestine, as currently happens in the UK and Australia. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] greyfrog@sh.itjust.works -3 points 3 months ago (1 child) They literally murdered their own citizens in broad daylight and it was filmed. But yes, in theory they can say what they want. See how it's often used to belittle minorities and gay people. Brilliant system. Couldn't fault it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] yottle@kopitalk.net 5 points 3 months ago* Brilliant system. Couldn’t fault it. If you read my original comment, you'll notice that I said the US is far from perfect and I'm not a big fan. That said, it's an incredibly unnuanced take to think that literally everything the US does is evil. They do at least some things right, even if you want to argue that, on balance, they suck. And one of the things that they do do right is their protections of free speech. This prevents a situation where you can arrest people for protesting in support of Palestine, as currently happens in the UK and Australia. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] yottle@kopitalk.net 5 points 3 months ago* Brilliant system. Couldn’t fault it. If you read my original comment, you'll notice that I said the US is far from perfect and I'm not a big fan. That said, it's an incredibly unnuanced take to think that literally everything the US does is evil. They do at least some things right, even if you want to argue that, on balance, they suck. And one of the things that they do do right is their protections of free speech. This prevents a situation where you can arrest people for protesting in support of Palestine, as currently happens in the UK and Australia. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] DamienGramatacus@lemmy.world 5 points 3 months ago (1 child) Or something... Glad you came prepared. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] greyfrog@sh.itjust.works -11 points 3 months ago I'm sorry is this an Internet message board or a thesis? Do you're own research I'm not your fucking mother. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] greyfrog@sh.itjust.works -11 points 3 months ago I'm sorry is this an Internet message board or a thesis? Do you're own research I'm not your fucking mother. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] greyfrog@sh.itjust.works -18 points 3 months ago (1 child) Go on then, give me some reasons? Or you just someone who reads too much "news"? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] panda_abyss@lemmy.ca 8 points 3 months ago (1 child) Points at headline permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] greyfrog@sh.itjust.works -8 points 3 months ago Yes. Literally Orwellian. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] panda_abyss@lemmy.ca 8 points 3 months ago (1 child) Points at headline permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] greyfrog@sh.itjust.works -8 points 3 months ago Yes. Literally Orwellian. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] greyfrog@sh.itjust.works -8 points 3 months ago Yes. Literally Orwellian. permalink fedilink source parent