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[Rant] I swear to fucking god. Windows is harder to use than Linux. Have any of you ever USED Windows lately? Holy fuck. (lemmy.world)
submitted 3 years ago* by to c/linux@lemmy.ml
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I'm helping a family member build a pc. He wanted to use Windows because "Linux can't play games" despite me having a perfectly good gaming laptop running Linux that runs all my games, even graphically intensive ones.

2 days later, no game has been played yet. We can't even get steam to start. I even installed Arch on a sata ssd I donated just to verify the pc parts actually work (took less than an hour). It took 1 and a half days to even get the Windows 11 installer to get past like the 3rd screen.

Fucking fuck. Dealing with all this fucking bullshit is far worse than not being able to play a few trashy anticheat pay 2 win games. The anti Linux circlejerk is real.

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[–] 110 points 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago) (2 children)

You missed the part where you either sign in with your Microsoft account or cut your Internet, remove the webcam, fake your own death, and do the secret tap code in the bios to just have the OS without letting Microsoft into your butthole.

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  • [–] 21 points 3 years ago* (5 children)

    Windows 11 doesn't force you do any of that. Just skip the sign in. Your points were valid in 8/10 era but no more.

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  • [+] 48 points 3 years ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 child)
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  • [–] 4 points 3 years ago (2 children)

    Rufus has workarounds for the mandatory login.

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  • [–] 7 points 3 years ago (2 children)

    Who is this Rufus fellow? Is he like Tux?

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  • [–] 23 points 3 years ago* (2 children)

    Not true. 11 very much still forces you to use an MS account.

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  • [–] 12 points 3 years ago (2 children)

    There is a secret command you can do to setup without Internet. But they hide it on the startup command line.

    On the “Oops, you’ve lost internet connection” or “Let’s connect you to a network” page, use the “Shift + F10” keyboard shortcut.

    In Command Prompt, type the OOBE\BYPASSNRO command to bypass network requirements on Windows 11 and press Enter.

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  • [–] 3 points 3 years ago (1 child)

    Very much doesn't my guy.

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  • [–] 11 points 3 years ago (1 child)

    Home won't let you do domain join, I think you have to go halfway through setup then select local account.

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  • [–] -3 points 3 years ago (1 child)

    Why would absolutely anyone on this sub install Home? Microsoft themselves make a multi-edition .iso available on their website. And funnily enough now, Microsoft supports the hosting of massgravel. Should it take as many steps as it does two make a local account? No, but it's literally two extra clicks.

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  • [–] 19 points 3 years ago (1 child)

    I just installed 11 recently. There isn't a skip button anymore. I had to enter fake sign in details for it to give me the "offline" option.

    So it seems like their point may still stand.

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  • [–] 7 points 3 years ago* (1 child)

    That's not accurate. The new versions of Windows 11 make you restart the OOBE with a flag to disable the MS login requirement. His points also weren't valid during the 8/10 era, because back then you could just click offline experience at the bottom left. You didn't even need to disable WiFi, just don't connect.

    Edit: Seems Pro lets you install without an account, home does not. Most of the laptops I've worked on come with home.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 years ago

    Not true on Windows 11 home that ships with new hardware. You need to disable all network connections and run some terminal commands to set up a local account. It is not convenient at all. Granted you can easily add a local account, after you have set it up with a Microsoft account, but that sort of defeats the purpose.

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