See this is why i didn't respond to you initially, your just doing that stupid redditer pseudo intellectual rutine, trying to use logic on a offhand observation that wasn't anything more then a jab at the American military complex. I insult them because they're a v. clearly an imperialist body and if your too dumb to realize that then Im not going to waste my breath on you, america has been made fun of for being oil hungry meddlers for decades.

you stupidly singled stuff out like 'solider boys' as if it was a gotcha. as Machinefab812 pointed that out, many voted for them just shy of 50% and now this is what they have to look forward to, you going 'who, what, way' like a child will get you about as far as a child and i really don't think i need to add any more to this convo cuz its a waste of time.

Imagine doing fuck-all to prove me wrong, not even bothering to make a counter-claim, then referring to my, TRUE, statement as "rectally sourced".

Maybe I didn't have to look it up immediately before commenting, because I've looked it up many, many, times before when bothering such obligatory things as "you are wrong, and this is why."

See what I did there?

Good job doubling-down on a double-down. I'll go up and add that link to my earlier comment, so no one need dig down here to see your laziness and shame, which to spell it out again: you made zero claims(beyond "rectally sourced", yawnwithatootforya*), and provided nothing in the way of substantiating your ignorant bullshit.

Ill give it a read.

I just think that (1) its mentally easy to quickly assign blame on others, (2) it is not necessarily accurate when one does not specify whom (which person(s) (3) or aligned with the current international legal standards for crimes or violations. It might be unreasonable to expect 'everyone' to hold the same values as high level policy makers, but it is a point to be made.

But the statement that all are complicit but not responsible is a modern accurate statement in my viewpoint.

All Americans that pay taxes are complicit. Unless they have made every reasonable attempt to leave the country. (Myself included).

There are varying levels of responsibility and accompanying guilt- but this is sort of a slippery slope to think like this but it is true.

An international trial would not convict all Americans of a crime and then sentence them. The trial would convict 'natural persons' whom made the decisions, and also 'natural persons' whom performed aggression such as a drone operator, possibly aviators, (but only true in Nuremberg to a limited extent ) but there are thousands aboard the ship whom are indeed complicit but

I would not sentence them to death, writ large, or else. At the most a fine or some injunctions regarding federal or military employment and or voting.

The wars in Sudan--- The war in Ukraine-- I feel bad for all of them, I know many Russians are forced to die at the hands of the state. To much lesser degree some Americans are forced to facilitate war thru less bold or violent mechanisms.

Undoubtedly the Iranians noninvolved are suffering orders of magnitude greater than the 'boys' ln ship. But comparing suffering is not helpful on the individual level. The system level, it is certainly.

Even though some I feel bad for may be responsible or complicit in the violence.