β² 932 βΌ i hate that it's very often like this (sh.itjust.works) submitted 2 years ago by nekothegamer@sh.itjust.works to c/linuxmemes@lemmy.world 240 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[β] madcaesar@lemmy.world 16 points 2 years ago (1 child) Someone explain this to my dumb ass. permalink fedilink source hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] Baleine@jlai.lu 35 points 2 years ago (3 children) Deb files are debian packages, so if you're not on debian you can't install it permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [β] cupcakezealot@lemmy.blahaj.zone 17 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (3 children) I don't understand why would people not be on debian does not compute permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [β] tslnox@reddthat.com 8 points 2 years ago (2 children) I'm on Gentoo for example. I can write an ebuild to automatically download said deb, extract it, install it with the package manager... And if the site has any semblance of organization involved, I can write one ebuild that will always download the version specified in its name, so when there is an update, I can copy the ebuild, change its name to new version and if the dependencies or structure didn't change, it will install just fine without any work. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [β] Genericusername@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago I am quite comfortable finding my way around ArchLinux, and recently decided to give Gentoo a try. I didn't expect it to be that much harder but all the cflags, emerge, conflicts and updates feels like black magic. I guess that if you know your way around Gentoo, reverse-engineering a deb file is not a real challenge. However I'm assuming that most Linux users would hope for a less involved solution. permalink fedilink source parent [β] InternetCitizen2@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago That sounds really cool. permalink fedilink source parent [β] snek_boi@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 years ago* You could check out NixOS :) permalink fedilink source parent [β] Lime66@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago* (3 children) Incredibly old and likely no longer updated packages the devs are expected to backport their security fixes to these packages, which can create an outrageous amount of work I don't understand why would people not be on debian does not compute I don't understand why someone would want to be on Debian, what actual advantage does it have. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [β] thisbenzingring@lemmy.sdf.org 12 points 2 years ago (2 children) Stability, slow changes, predictable, strong history, lots of distributions are based on it, the list goes on and on. I don't use it but it's kinda stupid to question it's relevant qualities considering how much it's brought to the Linux community. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [β] puppy@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago Also don't forget that Debian is completely community driven, unlike Redhat's distros which face some controversy. permalink fedilink source parent [β] Lime66@lemmy.world -3 points 2 years ago (1 child) Lots of distros are based on Ubuntu, does that make Ubuntu an amazing distro? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] thisbenzingring@lemmy.sdf.org 8 points 2 years ago (1 child) They are based on Debian then, not Ubuntu. They are just reworked. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] Lime66@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago (1 child) They are based on both in that case permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] thisbenzingring@lemmy.sdf.org 1 point 2 years ago Is it using APT? If so, guess what.... permalink fedilink source parent [β] molochthagod@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago Relax, guys, Debian and not Debian both have their pros and cons. The variety of options is what's so beautiful about Linux. permalink fedilink source parent [β] Honytawk@lemmy.zip 3 points 2 years ago For the .deb packages, obviously. Did you not read the post? permalink fedilink source parent [β] LeFantome@programming.dev 8 points 2 years ago (1 child) If it is only available as a .deb, it is probably targeting Ubuntu specifically. Ubuntu is a derivative of Debian and uses the same package format. Ubuntu is much more popular though and the packages are not completely compatible. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] CosmicCleric@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago If it is only available as a .deb, it is probably targeting Ubuntu specifically. Did you mean versus another Debian derivative like PopOS, or versus a non-Debian derivative like Fedora, etc.? permalink fedilink source parent [β] Hawke@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago β¦ Debian, or one of the many excellent Debian-based distros permalink fedilink source parent
[β] Baleine@jlai.lu 35 points 2 years ago (3 children) Deb files are debian packages, so if you're not on debian you can't install it permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [β] cupcakezealot@lemmy.blahaj.zone 17 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (3 children) I don't understand why would people not be on debian does not compute permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [β] tslnox@reddthat.com 8 points 2 years ago (2 children) I'm on Gentoo for example. I can write an ebuild to automatically download said deb, extract it, install it with the package manager... And if the site has any semblance of organization involved, I can write one ebuild that will always download the version specified in its name, so when there is an update, I can copy the ebuild, change its name to new version and if the dependencies or structure didn't change, it will install just fine without any work. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [β] Genericusername@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago I am quite comfortable finding my way around ArchLinux, and recently decided to give Gentoo a try. I didn't expect it to be that much harder but all the cflags, emerge, conflicts and updates feels like black magic. I guess that if you know your way around Gentoo, reverse-engineering a deb file is not a real challenge. However I'm assuming that most Linux users would hope for a less involved solution. permalink fedilink source parent [β] InternetCitizen2@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago That sounds really cool. permalink fedilink source parent [β] snek_boi@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 years ago* You could check out NixOS :) permalink fedilink source parent [β] Lime66@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago* (3 children) Incredibly old and likely no longer updated packages the devs are expected to backport their security fixes to these packages, which can create an outrageous amount of work I don't understand why would people not be on debian does not compute I don't understand why someone would want to be on Debian, what actual advantage does it have. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [β] thisbenzingring@lemmy.sdf.org 12 points 2 years ago (2 children) Stability, slow changes, predictable, strong history, lots of distributions are based on it, the list goes on and on. I don't use it but it's kinda stupid to question it's relevant qualities considering how much it's brought to the Linux community. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [β] puppy@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago Also don't forget that Debian is completely community driven, unlike Redhat's distros which face some controversy. permalink fedilink source parent [β] Lime66@lemmy.world -3 points 2 years ago (1 child) Lots of distros are based on Ubuntu, does that make Ubuntu an amazing distro? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] thisbenzingring@lemmy.sdf.org 8 points 2 years ago (1 child) They are based on Debian then, not Ubuntu. They are just reworked. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] Lime66@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago (1 child) They are based on both in that case permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] thisbenzingring@lemmy.sdf.org 1 point 2 years ago Is it using APT? If so, guess what.... permalink fedilink source parent [β] molochthagod@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago Relax, guys, Debian and not Debian both have their pros and cons. The variety of options is what's so beautiful about Linux. permalink fedilink source parent [β] Honytawk@lemmy.zip 3 points 2 years ago For the .deb packages, obviously. Did you not read the post? permalink fedilink source parent [β] LeFantome@programming.dev 8 points 2 years ago (1 child) If it is only available as a .deb, it is probably targeting Ubuntu specifically. Ubuntu is a derivative of Debian and uses the same package format. Ubuntu is much more popular though and the packages are not completely compatible. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] CosmicCleric@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago If it is only available as a .deb, it is probably targeting Ubuntu specifically. Did you mean versus another Debian derivative like PopOS, or versus a non-Debian derivative like Fedora, etc.? permalink fedilink source parent [β] Hawke@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago β¦ Debian, or one of the many excellent Debian-based distros permalink fedilink source parent
[β] cupcakezealot@lemmy.blahaj.zone 17 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (3 children) I don't understand why would people not be on debian does not compute permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [β] tslnox@reddthat.com 8 points 2 years ago (2 children) I'm on Gentoo for example. I can write an ebuild to automatically download said deb, extract it, install it with the package manager... And if the site has any semblance of organization involved, I can write one ebuild that will always download the version specified in its name, so when there is an update, I can copy the ebuild, change its name to new version and if the dependencies or structure didn't change, it will install just fine without any work. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [β] Genericusername@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago I am quite comfortable finding my way around ArchLinux, and recently decided to give Gentoo a try. I didn't expect it to be that much harder but all the cflags, emerge, conflicts and updates feels like black magic. I guess that if you know your way around Gentoo, reverse-engineering a deb file is not a real challenge. However I'm assuming that most Linux users would hope for a less involved solution. permalink fedilink source parent [β] InternetCitizen2@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago That sounds really cool. permalink fedilink source parent [β] snek_boi@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 years ago* You could check out NixOS :) permalink fedilink source parent [β] Lime66@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago* (3 children) Incredibly old and likely no longer updated packages the devs are expected to backport their security fixes to these packages, which can create an outrageous amount of work I don't understand why would people not be on debian does not compute I don't understand why someone would want to be on Debian, what actual advantage does it have. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [β] thisbenzingring@lemmy.sdf.org 12 points 2 years ago (2 children) Stability, slow changes, predictable, strong history, lots of distributions are based on it, the list goes on and on. I don't use it but it's kinda stupid to question it's relevant qualities considering how much it's brought to the Linux community. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [β] puppy@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago Also don't forget that Debian is completely community driven, unlike Redhat's distros which face some controversy. permalink fedilink source parent [β] Lime66@lemmy.world -3 points 2 years ago (1 child) Lots of distros are based on Ubuntu, does that make Ubuntu an amazing distro? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] thisbenzingring@lemmy.sdf.org 8 points 2 years ago (1 child) They are based on Debian then, not Ubuntu. They are just reworked. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] Lime66@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago (1 child) They are based on both in that case permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] thisbenzingring@lemmy.sdf.org 1 point 2 years ago Is it using APT? If so, guess what.... permalink fedilink source parent [β] molochthagod@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago Relax, guys, Debian and not Debian both have their pros and cons. The variety of options is what's so beautiful about Linux. permalink fedilink source parent [β] Honytawk@lemmy.zip 3 points 2 years ago For the .deb packages, obviously. Did you not read the post? permalink fedilink source parent
[β] tslnox@reddthat.com 8 points 2 years ago (2 children) I'm on Gentoo for example. I can write an ebuild to automatically download said deb, extract it, install it with the package manager... And if the site has any semblance of organization involved, I can write one ebuild that will always download the version specified in its name, so when there is an update, I can copy the ebuild, change its name to new version and if the dependencies or structure didn't change, it will install just fine without any work. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [β] Genericusername@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago I am quite comfortable finding my way around ArchLinux, and recently decided to give Gentoo a try. I didn't expect it to be that much harder but all the cflags, emerge, conflicts and updates feels like black magic. I guess that if you know your way around Gentoo, reverse-engineering a deb file is not a real challenge. However I'm assuming that most Linux users would hope for a less involved solution. permalink fedilink source parent [β] InternetCitizen2@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago That sounds really cool. permalink fedilink source parent
[β] Genericusername@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago I am quite comfortable finding my way around ArchLinux, and recently decided to give Gentoo a try. I didn't expect it to be that much harder but all the cflags, emerge, conflicts and updates feels like black magic. I guess that if you know your way around Gentoo, reverse-engineering a deb file is not a real challenge. However I'm assuming that most Linux users would hope for a less involved solution. permalink fedilink source parent
[β] InternetCitizen2@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago That sounds really cool. permalink fedilink source parent
[β] snek_boi@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 years ago* You could check out NixOS :) permalink fedilink source parent
[β] Lime66@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago* (3 children) Incredibly old and likely no longer updated packages the devs are expected to backport their security fixes to these packages, which can create an outrageous amount of work I don't understand why would people not be on debian does not compute I don't understand why someone would want to be on Debian, what actual advantage does it have. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [β] thisbenzingring@lemmy.sdf.org 12 points 2 years ago (2 children) Stability, slow changes, predictable, strong history, lots of distributions are based on it, the list goes on and on. I don't use it but it's kinda stupid to question it's relevant qualities considering how much it's brought to the Linux community. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [β] puppy@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago Also don't forget that Debian is completely community driven, unlike Redhat's distros which face some controversy. permalink fedilink source parent [β] Lime66@lemmy.world -3 points 2 years ago (1 child) Lots of distros are based on Ubuntu, does that make Ubuntu an amazing distro? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] thisbenzingring@lemmy.sdf.org 8 points 2 years ago (1 child) They are based on Debian then, not Ubuntu. They are just reworked. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] Lime66@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago (1 child) They are based on both in that case permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] thisbenzingring@lemmy.sdf.org 1 point 2 years ago Is it using APT? If so, guess what.... permalink fedilink source parent [β] molochthagod@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago Relax, guys, Debian and not Debian both have their pros and cons. The variety of options is what's so beautiful about Linux. permalink fedilink source parent [β] Honytawk@lemmy.zip 3 points 2 years ago For the .deb packages, obviously. Did you not read the post? permalink fedilink source parent
[β] thisbenzingring@lemmy.sdf.org 12 points 2 years ago (2 children) Stability, slow changes, predictable, strong history, lots of distributions are based on it, the list goes on and on. I don't use it but it's kinda stupid to question it's relevant qualities considering how much it's brought to the Linux community. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [β] puppy@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago Also don't forget that Debian is completely community driven, unlike Redhat's distros which face some controversy. permalink fedilink source parent [β] Lime66@lemmy.world -3 points 2 years ago (1 child) Lots of distros are based on Ubuntu, does that make Ubuntu an amazing distro? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] thisbenzingring@lemmy.sdf.org 8 points 2 years ago (1 child) They are based on Debian then, not Ubuntu. They are just reworked. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] Lime66@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago (1 child) They are based on both in that case permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] thisbenzingring@lemmy.sdf.org 1 point 2 years ago Is it using APT? If so, guess what.... permalink fedilink source parent
[β] puppy@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago Also don't forget that Debian is completely community driven, unlike Redhat's distros which face some controversy. permalink fedilink source parent
[β] Lime66@lemmy.world -3 points 2 years ago (1 child) Lots of distros are based on Ubuntu, does that make Ubuntu an amazing distro? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] thisbenzingring@lemmy.sdf.org 8 points 2 years ago (1 child) They are based on Debian then, not Ubuntu. They are just reworked. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] Lime66@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago (1 child) They are based on both in that case permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] thisbenzingring@lemmy.sdf.org 1 point 2 years ago Is it using APT? If so, guess what.... permalink fedilink source parent
[β] thisbenzingring@lemmy.sdf.org 8 points 2 years ago (1 child) They are based on Debian then, not Ubuntu. They are just reworked. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] Lime66@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago (1 child) They are based on both in that case permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] thisbenzingring@lemmy.sdf.org 1 point 2 years ago Is it using APT? If so, guess what.... permalink fedilink source parent
[β] Lime66@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago (1 child) They are based on both in that case permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] thisbenzingring@lemmy.sdf.org 1 point 2 years ago Is it using APT? If so, guess what.... permalink fedilink source parent
[β] thisbenzingring@lemmy.sdf.org 1 point 2 years ago Is it using APT? If so, guess what.... permalink fedilink source parent
[β] molochthagod@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago Relax, guys, Debian and not Debian both have their pros and cons. The variety of options is what's so beautiful about Linux. permalink fedilink source parent
[β] Honytawk@lemmy.zip 3 points 2 years ago For the .deb packages, obviously. Did you not read the post? permalink fedilink source parent
[β] LeFantome@programming.dev 8 points 2 years ago (1 child) If it is only available as a .deb, it is probably targeting Ubuntu specifically. Ubuntu is a derivative of Debian and uses the same package format. Ubuntu is much more popular though and the packages are not completely compatible. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] CosmicCleric@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago If it is only available as a .deb, it is probably targeting Ubuntu specifically. Did you mean versus another Debian derivative like PopOS, or versus a non-Debian derivative like Fedora, etc.? permalink fedilink source parent
[β] CosmicCleric@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago If it is only available as a .deb, it is probably targeting Ubuntu specifically. Did you mean versus another Debian derivative like PopOS, or versus a non-Debian derivative like Fedora, etc.? permalink fedilink source parent
[β] Hawke@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago β¦ Debian, or one of the many excellent Debian-based distros permalink fedilink source parent