▲ 591 ▼ Personalized Political Spectrum (lemmy.world) submitted 4 months ago by MTZ@lemmy.world to c/lemmyshitpost@lemmy.world 249 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[+] Riverside@reddthat.com 2 points 4 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] nsrxn@mstdn.social -2 points 4 months ago (1 child) I got my definition from Mussolini. where is your from? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Riverside@reddthat.com 2 points 4 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] nsrxn@mstdn.social -1 points 4 months ago (1 child) the so-called private sector depends entirely on the state to enforce private property claims. the state issues corporate charters. the state "regulates" these corporations to ensure they benefit the state. eco's 14 characteristics are more like symptoms to diagnose fascism. the fascist ideology doesn't require any of them except point 4 and, to a degree, point 13. it just so happens that fascist regimes will often display the other characteristics. they are not inherent to the ideology. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Riverside@reddthat.com 3 points 4 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] nsrxn@mstdn.social -2 points 4 months ago (1 child) tell em what they won! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Riverside@reddthat.com 3 points 4 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] nsrxn@mstdn.social -2 points 4 months ago (1 child) i know, right! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Riverside@reddthat.com 3 points 4 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] nsrxn@mstdn.social -2 points 4 months ago (1 child) i'd say that it becomes an empty accusation in the modern context, yea. like, duh. the modern state is fascist. but it's not useless to understand the characteristics of the systems that oppress us. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Riverside@reddthat.com 2 points 4 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] nsrxn@mstdn.social 0 points 4 months ago (1 child) I didn't say anything about whether the ussr was socialist. I said the evidence you gave doesn't preclude the ussr from being fascist permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Riverside@reddthat.com 1 point 4 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] nsrxn@mstdn.social 0 points 4 months ago (1 child) right. and while the ussr may have been socialist (i honestly don't want to take a position on that), the features of the society that you cited are not explicitly socialist. you mostly cited the existence of institutions within the state and some statistics about the standard of living. those could appear in a fascist society, as well. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Riverside@reddthat.com 1 point 4 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] nsrxn@mstdn.social 0 points 4 months ago (1 child) i'm not saying it's a common feature in fascist societies. i'm saying nothing about the explicit ideology precludes it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Riverside@reddthat.com 1 point 4 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] nsrxn@mstdn.social -2 points 4 months ago (1 child) i'm sorry, i'm not going to engage with parenti at all. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Riverside@reddthat.com 3 points 4 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[–] nsrxn@mstdn.social -2 points 4 months ago (1 child) I got my definition from Mussolini. where is your from? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Riverside@reddthat.com 2 points 4 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] nsrxn@mstdn.social -1 points 4 months ago (1 child) the so-called private sector depends entirely on the state to enforce private property claims. the state issues corporate charters. the state "regulates" these corporations to ensure they benefit the state. eco's 14 characteristics are more like symptoms to diagnose fascism. the fascist ideology doesn't require any of them except point 4 and, to a degree, point 13. it just so happens that fascist regimes will often display the other characteristics. they are not inherent to the ideology. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Riverside@reddthat.com 3 points 4 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] nsrxn@mstdn.social -2 points 4 months ago (1 child) tell em what they won! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Riverside@reddthat.com 3 points 4 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] nsrxn@mstdn.social -2 points 4 months ago (1 child) i know, right! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Riverside@reddthat.com 3 points 4 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] nsrxn@mstdn.social -2 points 4 months ago (1 child) i'd say that it becomes an empty accusation in the modern context, yea. like, duh. the modern state is fascist. but it's not useless to understand the characteristics of the systems that oppress us. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Riverside@reddthat.com 2 points 4 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] nsrxn@mstdn.social 0 points 4 months ago (1 child) I didn't say anything about whether the ussr was socialist. I said the evidence you gave doesn't preclude the ussr from being fascist permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Riverside@reddthat.com 1 point 4 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] nsrxn@mstdn.social 0 points 4 months ago (1 child) right. and while the ussr may have been socialist (i honestly don't want to take a position on that), the features of the society that you cited are not explicitly socialist. you mostly cited the existence of institutions within the state and some statistics about the standard of living. those could appear in a fascist society, as well. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Riverside@reddthat.com 1 point 4 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] nsrxn@mstdn.social 0 points 4 months ago (1 child) i'm not saying it's a common feature in fascist societies. i'm saying nothing about the explicit ideology precludes it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Riverside@reddthat.com 1 point 4 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] nsrxn@mstdn.social -2 points 4 months ago (1 child) i'm sorry, i'm not going to engage with parenti at all. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Riverside@reddthat.com 3 points 4 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[+] Riverside@reddthat.com 2 points 4 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] nsrxn@mstdn.social -1 points 4 months ago (1 child) the so-called private sector depends entirely on the state to enforce private property claims. the state issues corporate charters. the state "regulates" these corporations to ensure they benefit the state. eco's 14 characteristics are more like symptoms to diagnose fascism. the fascist ideology doesn't require any of them except point 4 and, to a degree, point 13. it just so happens that fascist regimes will often display the other characteristics. they are not inherent to the ideology. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Riverside@reddthat.com 3 points 4 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] nsrxn@mstdn.social -2 points 4 months ago (1 child) tell em what they won! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Riverside@reddthat.com 3 points 4 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] nsrxn@mstdn.social -2 points 4 months ago (1 child) i know, right! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Riverside@reddthat.com 3 points 4 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] nsrxn@mstdn.social -2 points 4 months ago (1 child) i'd say that it becomes an empty accusation in the modern context, yea. like, duh. the modern state is fascist. but it's not useless to understand the characteristics of the systems that oppress us. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Riverside@reddthat.com 2 points 4 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] nsrxn@mstdn.social 0 points 4 months ago (1 child) I didn't say anything about whether the ussr was socialist. I said the evidence you gave doesn't preclude the ussr from being fascist permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Riverside@reddthat.com 1 point 4 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] nsrxn@mstdn.social 0 points 4 months ago (1 child) right. and while the ussr may have been socialist (i honestly don't want to take a position on that), the features of the society that you cited are not explicitly socialist. you mostly cited the existence of institutions within the state and some statistics about the standard of living. those could appear in a fascist society, as well. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Riverside@reddthat.com 1 point 4 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] nsrxn@mstdn.social 0 points 4 months ago (1 child) i'm not saying it's a common feature in fascist societies. i'm saying nothing about the explicit ideology precludes it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Riverside@reddthat.com 1 point 4 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] nsrxn@mstdn.social -2 points 4 months ago (1 child) i'm sorry, i'm not going to engage with parenti at all. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Riverside@reddthat.com 3 points 4 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[–] nsrxn@mstdn.social -1 points 4 months ago (1 child) the so-called private sector depends entirely on the state to enforce private property claims. the state issues corporate charters. the state "regulates" these corporations to ensure they benefit the state. eco's 14 characteristics are more like symptoms to diagnose fascism. the fascist ideology doesn't require any of them except point 4 and, to a degree, point 13. it just so happens that fascist regimes will often display the other characteristics. they are not inherent to the ideology. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Riverside@reddthat.com 3 points 4 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] nsrxn@mstdn.social -2 points 4 months ago (1 child) tell em what they won! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Riverside@reddthat.com 3 points 4 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] nsrxn@mstdn.social -2 points 4 months ago (1 child) i know, right! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Riverside@reddthat.com 3 points 4 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] nsrxn@mstdn.social -2 points 4 months ago (1 child) i'd say that it becomes an empty accusation in the modern context, yea. like, duh. the modern state is fascist. but it's not useless to understand the characteristics of the systems that oppress us. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Riverside@reddthat.com 2 points 4 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] nsrxn@mstdn.social 0 points 4 months ago (1 child) I didn't say anything about whether the ussr was socialist. I said the evidence you gave doesn't preclude the ussr from being fascist permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Riverside@reddthat.com 1 point 4 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] nsrxn@mstdn.social 0 points 4 months ago (1 child) right. and while the ussr may have been socialist (i honestly don't want to take a position on that), the features of the society that you cited are not explicitly socialist. you mostly cited the existence of institutions within the state and some statistics about the standard of living. those could appear in a fascist society, as well. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Riverside@reddthat.com 1 point 4 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] nsrxn@mstdn.social 0 points 4 months ago (1 child) i'm not saying it's a common feature in fascist societies. i'm saying nothing about the explicit ideology precludes it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Riverside@reddthat.com 1 point 4 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[+] Riverside@reddthat.com 3 points 4 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] nsrxn@mstdn.social -2 points 4 months ago (1 child) tell em what they won! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Riverside@reddthat.com 3 points 4 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] nsrxn@mstdn.social -2 points 4 months ago (1 child) i know, right! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Riverside@reddthat.com 3 points 4 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] nsrxn@mstdn.social -2 points 4 months ago (1 child) i'd say that it becomes an empty accusation in the modern context, yea. like, duh. the modern state is fascist. but it's not useless to understand the characteristics of the systems that oppress us. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Riverside@reddthat.com 2 points 4 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] nsrxn@mstdn.social 0 points 4 months ago (1 child) I didn't say anything about whether the ussr was socialist. I said the evidence you gave doesn't preclude the ussr from being fascist permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Riverside@reddthat.com 1 point 4 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] nsrxn@mstdn.social 0 points 4 months ago (1 child) right. and while the ussr may have been socialist (i honestly don't want to take a position on that), the features of the society that you cited are not explicitly socialist. you mostly cited the existence of institutions within the state and some statistics about the standard of living. those could appear in a fascist society, as well. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Riverside@reddthat.com 1 point 4 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] nsrxn@mstdn.social 0 points 4 months ago (1 child) i'm not saying it's a common feature in fascist societies. i'm saying nothing about the explicit ideology precludes it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Riverside@reddthat.com 1 point 4 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[–] nsrxn@mstdn.social -2 points 4 months ago (1 child) tell em what they won! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Riverside@reddthat.com 3 points 4 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] nsrxn@mstdn.social -2 points 4 months ago (1 child) i know, right! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Riverside@reddthat.com 3 points 4 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] nsrxn@mstdn.social -2 points 4 months ago (1 child) i'd say that it becomes an empty accusation in the modern context, yea. like, duh. the modern state is fascist. but it's not useless to understand the characteristics of the systems that oppress us. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Riverside@reddthat.com 2 points 4 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] nsrxn@mstdn.social 0 points 4 months ago (1 child) I didn't say anything about whether the ussr was socialist. I said the evidence you gave doesn't preclude the ussr from being fascist permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Riverside@reddthat.com 1 point 4 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] nsrxn@mstdn.social 0 points 4 months ago (1 child) right. and while the ussr may have been socialist (i honestly don't want to take a position on that), the features of the society that you cited are not explicitly socialist. you mostly cited the existence of institutions within the state and some statistics about the standard of living. those could appear in a fascist society, as well. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Riverside@reddthat.com 1 point 4 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] nsrxn@mstdn.social 0 points 4 months ago (1 child) i'm not saying it's a common feature in fascist societies. i'm saying nothing about the explicit ideology precludes it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Riverside@reddthat.com 1 point 4 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[+] Riverside@reddthat.com 3 points 4 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] nsrxn@mstdn.social -2 points 4 months ago (1 child) i know, right! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Riverside@reddthat.com 3 points 4 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] nsrxn@mstdn.social -2 points 4 months ago (1 child) i'd say that it becomes an empty accusation in the modern context, yea. like, duh. the modern state is fascist. but it's not useless to understand the characteristics of the systems that oppress us. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Riverside@reddthat.com 2 points 4 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] nsrxn@mstdn.social 0 points 4 months ago (1 child) I didn't say anything about whether the ussr was socialist. I said the evidence you gave doesn't preclude the ussr from being fascist permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Riverside@reddthat.com 1 point 4 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] nsrxn@mstdn.social 0 points 4 months ago (1 child) right. and while the ussr may have been socialist (i honestly don't want to take a position on that), the features of the society that you cited are not explicitly socialist. you mostly cited the existence of institutions within the state and some statistics about the standard of living. those could appear in a fascist society, as well. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Riverside@reddthat.com 1 point 4 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] nsrxn@mstdn.social 0 points 4 months ago (1 child) i'm not saying it's a common feature in fascist societies. i'm saying nothing about the explicit ideology precludes it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Riverside@reddthat.com 1 point 4 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[–] nsrxn@mstdn.social -2 points 4 months ago (1 child) i know, right! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Riverside@reddthat.com 3 points 4 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] nsrxn@mstdn.social -2 points 4 months ago (1 child) i'd say that it becomes an empty accusation in the modern context, yea. like, duh. the modern state is fascist. but it's not useless to understand the characteristics of the systems that oppress us. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Riverside@reddthat.com 2 points 4 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] nsrxn@mstdn.social 0 points 4 months ago (1 child) I didn't say anything about whether the ussr was socialist. I said the evidence you gave doesn't preclude the ussr from being fascist permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Riverside@reddthat.com 1 point 4 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] nsrxn@mstdn.social 0 points 4 months ago (1 child) right. and while the ussr may have been socialist (i honestly don't want to take a position on that), the features of the society that you cited are not explicitly socialist. you mostly cited the existence of institutions within the state and some statistics about the standard of living. those could appear in a fascist society, as well. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Riverside@reddthat.com 1 point 4 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] nsrxn@mstdn.social 0 points 4 months ago (1 child) i'm not saying it's a common feature in fascist societies. i'm saying nothing about the explicit ideology precludes it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Riverside@reddthat.com 1 point 4 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[+] Riverside@reddthat.com 3 points 4 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] nsrxn@mstdn.social -2 points 4 months ago (1 child) i'd say that it becomes an empty accusation in the modern context, yea. like, duh. the modern state is fascist. but it's not useless to understand the characteristics of the systems that oppress us. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Riverside@reddthat.com 2 points 4 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] nsrxn@mstdn.social 0 points 4 months ago (1 child) I didn't say anything about whether the ussr was socialist. I said the evidence you gave doesn't preclude the ussr from being fascist permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Riverside@reddthat.com 1 point 4 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] nsrxn@mstdn.social 0 points 4 months ago (1 child) right. and while the ussr may have been socialist (i honestly don't want to take a position on that), the features of the society that you cited are not explicitly socialist. you mostly cited the existence of institutions within the state and some statistics about the standard of living. those could appear in a fascist society, as well. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Riverside@reddthat.com 1 point 4 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] nsrxn@mstdn.social 0 points 4 months ago (1 child) i'm not saying it's a common feature in fascist societies. i'm saying nothing about the explicit ideology precludes it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Riverside@reddthat.com 1 point 4 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[–] nsrxn@mstdn.social -2 points 4 months ago (1 child) i'd say that it becomes an empty accusation in the modern context, yea. like, duh. the modern state is fascist. but it's not useless to understand the characteristics of the systems that oppress us. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Riverside@reddthat.com 2 points 4 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] nsrxn@mstdn.social 0 points 4 months ago (1 child) I didn't say anything about whether the ussr was socialist. I said the evidence you gave doesn't preclude the ussr from being fascist permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Riverside@reddthat.com 1 point 4 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] nsrxn@mstdn.social 0 points 4 months ago (1 child) right. and while the ussr may have been socialist (i honestly don't want to take a position on that), the features of the society that you cited are not explicitly socialist. you mostly cited the existence of institutions within the state and some statistics about the standard of living. those could appear in a fascist society, as well. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Riverside@reddthat.com 1 point 4 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] nsrxn@mstdn.social 0 points 4 months ago (1 child) i'm not saying it's a common feature in fascist societies. i'm saying nothing about the explicit ideology precludes it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Riverside@reddthat.com 1 point 4 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[+] Riverside@reddthat.com 2 points 4 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] nsrxn@mstdn.social 0 points 4 months ago (1 child) I didn't say anything about whether the ussr was socialist. I said the evidence you gave doesn't preclude the ussr from being fascist permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Riverside@reddthat.com 1 point 4 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] nsrxn@mstdn.social 0 points 4 months ago (1 child) right. and while the ussr may have been socialist (i honestly don't want to take a position on that), the features of the society that you cited are not explicitly socialist. you mostly cited the existence of institutions within the state and some statistics about the standard of living. those could appear in a fascist society, as well. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Riverside@reddthat.com 1 point 4 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] nsrxn@mstdn.social 0 points 4 months ago (1 child) i'm not saying it's a common feature in fascist societies. i'm saying nothing about the explicit ideology precludes it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Riverside@reddthat.com 1 point 4 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[–] nsrxn@mstdn.social 0 points 4 months ago (1 child) I didn't say anything about whether the ussr was socialist. I said the evidence you gave doesn't preclude the ussr from being fascist permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Riverside@reddthat.com 1 point 4 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] nsrxn@mstdn.social 0 points 4 months ago (1 child) right. and while the ussr may have been socialist (i honestly don't want to take a position on that), the features of the society that you cited are not explicitly socialist. you mostly cited the existence of institutions within the state and some statistics about the standard of living. those could appear in a fascist society, as well. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Riverside@reddthat.com 1 point 4 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] nsrxn@mstdn.social 0 points 4 months ago (1 child) i'm not saying it's a common feature in fascist societies. i'm saying nothing about the explicit ideology precludes it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Riverside@reddthat.com 1 point 4 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[+] Riverside@reddthat.com 1 point 4 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] nsrxn@mstdn.social 0 points 4 months ago (1 child) right. and while the ussr may have been socialist (i honestly don't want to take a position on that), the features of the society that you cited are not explicitly socialist. you mostly cited the existence of institutions within the state and some statistics about the standard of living. those could appear in a fascist society, as well. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Riverside@reddthat.com 1 point 4 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] nsrxn@mstdn.social 0 points 4 months ago (1 child) i'm not saying it's a common feature in fascist societies. i'm saying nothing about the explicit ideology precludes it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Riverside@reddthat.com 1 point 4 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[–] nsrxn@mstdn.social 0 points 4 months ago (1 child) right. and while the ussr may have been socialist (i honestly don't want to take a position on that), the features of the society that you cited are not explicitly socialist. you mostly cited the existence of institutions within the state and some statistics about the standard of living. those could appear in a fascist society, as well. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Riverside@reddthat.com 1 point 4 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] nsrxn@mstdn.social 0 points 4 months ago (1 child) i'm not saying it's a common feature in fascist societies. i'm saying nothing about the explicit ideology precludes it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Riverside@reddthat.com 1 point 4 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[+] Riverside@reddthat.com 1 point 4 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] nsrxn@mstdn.social 0 points 4 months ago (1 child) i'm not saying it's a common feature in fascist societies. i'm saying nothing about the explicit ideology precludes it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Riverside@reddthat.com 1 point 4 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[–] nsrxn@mstdn.social 0 points 4 months ago (1 child) i'm not saying it's a common feature in fascist societies. i'm saying nothing about the explicit ideology precludes it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Riverside@reddthat.com 1 point 4 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
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[–] nsrxn@mstdn.social -2 points 4 months ago (1 child) i'm sorry, i'm not going to engage with parenti at all. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Riverside@reddthat.com 3 points 4 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
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