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Alternative locations for a "Jewish Nation" - 1945 (lemmy.world)
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[–] 12 points 3 months ago (1 child)

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This doesn't read exactly friendly or sympathetic to the Jewish refugees other than it gives them a nation to be deported to. This doesn't exactly read like a Jewish diaspora lead document. Seems like a "modest proposal" document by an anti-refugee person that isn't a complete POS for their times but the idea was.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (2 children)

    Idk, Zionism is already kinda defeatist and antisemetic to begin with in its foundation. And later parts sound much more like it was written by a jewish person, such as "Dignity instead of sympathy." I say this because zionism is rooted in the belief jewish people can never and will never be accepted anywhere, and that they need their own nation to have somewhere safe. So with that in mind, I could see how this was written by a jewish zionist. Not that it isnt possible it wasnt, just that I feel there is reason to believe it was.

    Which I can understand why this belief came into being, but I definitely dont agree with it. Nationalism and religious intolerance is why antisematism exists, so to me making a religious nation-state is like fighting fire with fire. You're not seeking equality, freedom, or acceptance, you're seeking somewhere where you're on top. Should be seeking a situation where no one is on top.

    Edit: I tried searching the author, Joseph Hefter, to see if he was jewish but I cant find anything on him.

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  • [–] -1 points 3 months ago (1 child)

    Zionism was proven correct by history.

    Assimilation failed all over Europe pretty badly. Jews were expelled from Muslim countries after Israel was established.

    Zionists were a minority among Jews pretty much until the non Zionists were killed in the Holocaust.

    Many Jews were also into communism because of your idea of equality for all. That didn’t work out either. The Soviet Union persecuted and oppressed Jews. They even created a Jewish Oblast as a homeland in the middle of nowhere in Siberia. In the end they didn’t follow through with deporting all Jews there.

    Everything you propose was tried repeatedly. It lead to further oppression and death for Jews.

    Zionism was correct in its pessimistic analysis of the situation.

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