▲ 1604 ▼ It's a risk worth taking. (lemmy.world) submitted 2 years ago by FlyingSquid@lemmy.world to c/politicalmemes@lemmy.world 141 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[–] PugJesus@kbin.social 25 points 2 years ago (1 child) When a man slams his head into my window, and the glass cracks but doesn't shatter, my response is not "He can do it again, no big deal, the window didn't break", it's "Holy shit did I get lucky, someone stop that stupid fuck from doing that again" permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] ThrowawayPermanente@sh.itjust.works -12 points 2 years ago (1 child) Your response should also not be 'Gunfights are good and easy to win' permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] PugJesus@kbin.social 18 points 2 years ago (1 child) You're right. That's not my response. My response is "Cowing to the threat of politically motivated violence is the death of democracy." Trump goes to jail. What happens after that is immaterial - if the law does not apply to the powerful, even those who attempt to overthrow our democratically-elected government, then we have no democratic government. We have an oligarchy counting the minutes until their next consequence-free coup works. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] ThrowawayPermanente@sh.itjust.works -9 points 2 years ago (1 child) A civil war is pretty damned far from immaterial. You guys might even lose! You have to defeat him at the polls, other countries have tried doing things the other way and it doesn't end well. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] PugJesus@kbin.social 9 points 2 years ago Other countries have also tried the "Defeat him at the polls!" method. Doesn't always work. There are no guaranteed defences. No matter what you do, it will be a risk. However, what is guaranteed is that without the rule of law, there is no real government, only elites and us commoners. Without the rule of law, we do nothing but trade time for another Trump coup attempt - or an attempt by someone marginally less stupid. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] ThrowawayPermanente@sh.itjust.works -12 points 2 years ago (1 child) Your response should also not be 'Gunfights are good and easy to win' permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] PugJesus@kbin.social 18 points 2 years ago (1 child) You're right. That's not my response. My response is "Cowing to the threat of politically motivated violence is the death of democracy." Trump goes to jail. What happens after that is immaterial - if the law does not apply to the powerful, even those who attempt to overthrow our democratically-elected government, then we have no democratic government. We have an oligarchy counting the minutes until their next consequence-free coup works. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] ThrowawayPermanente@sh.itjust.works -9 points 2 years ago (1 child) A civil war is pretty damned far from immaterial. You guys might even lose! You have to defeat him at the polls, other countries have tried doing things the other way and it doesn't end well. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] PugJesus@kbin.social 9 points 2 years ago Other countries have also tried the "Defeat him at the polls!" method. Doesn't always work. There are no guaranteed defences. No matter what you do, it will be a risk. However, what is guaranteed is that without the rule of law, there is no real government, only elites and us commoners. Without the rule of law, we do nothing but trade time for another Trump coup attempt - or an attempt by someone marginally less stupid. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] PugJesus@kbin.social 18 points 2 years ago (1 child) You're right. That's not my response. My response is "Cowing to the threat of politically motivated violence is the death of democracy." Trump goes to jail. What happens after that is immaterial - if the law does not apply to the powerful, even those who attempt to overthrow our democratically-elected government, then we have no democratic government. We have an oligarchy counting the minutes until their next consequence-free coup works. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] ThrowawayPermanente@sh.itjust.works -9 points 2 years ago (1 child) A civil war is pretty damned far from immaterial. You guys might even lose! You have to defeat him at the polls, other countries have tried doing things the other way and it doesn't end well. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] PugJesus@kbin.social 9 points 2 years ago Other countries have also tried the "Defeat him at the polls!" method. Doesn't always work. There are no guaranteed defences. No matter what you do, it will be a risk. However, what is guaranteed is that without the rule of law, there is no real government, only elites and us commoners. Without the rule of law, we do nothing but trade time for another Trump coup attempt - or an attempt by someone marginally less stupid. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] ThrowawayPermanente@sh.itjust.works -9 points 2 years ago (1 child) A civil war is pretty damned far from immaterial. You guys might even lose! You have to defeat him at the polls, other countries have tried doing things the other way and it doesn't end well. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] PugJesus@kbin.social 9 points 2 years ago Other countries have also tried the "Defeat him at the polls!" method. Doesn't always work. There are no guaranteed defences. No matter what you do, it will be a risk. However, what is guaranteed is that without the rule of law, there is no real government, only elites and us commoners. Without the rule of law, we do nothing but trade time for another Trump coup attempt - or an attempt by someone marginally less stupid. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] PugJesus@kbin.social 9 points 2 years ago Other countries have also tried the "Defeat him at the polls!" method. Doesn't always work. There are no guaranteed defences. No matter what you do, it will be a risk. However, what is guaranteed is that without the rule of law, there is no real government, only elites and us commoners. Without the rule of law, we do nothing but trade time for another Trump coup attempt - or an attempt by someone marginally less stupid. permalink fedilink source parent