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Anakin promised! (lemmy.world)
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[–] 23 points 3 months ago (4 children)

their elite cops are a selective secretive religious sect with child soldiers

Outside of the conflict which Palpatine orchestrated, that wasn't the Jedi's normal job, right?

"We're keepers of the peace, not soldiers."

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  • [–] 18 points 3 months ago (1 child)

    What do you think a "peacekeeper" is? For reference, this is one of the first results I got when I searched the web for "UN peacekeeper".

    George Lucas clearly intended the Jedi to be wrong. Side-stepping a debate about the morality of their texual actions, they are narratively put on the "wrong" role. The whole arc of the third (sixth) movie is how Luke proves Yoda wrong that love and attachment lead to a fall to the dark side, with the tension coming from the audience's credence in Yoda's statement. And the prophecy that Anakin brings balance to the Force is fulfilled when he reduces the number of Jedi to equal the number of Sith (2) and later the number of Sith to equal the number of Jedi (0), implying the Jedi temple as an institution was unbalanced and the best number of Jedi (and Sith) is zero.

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  • [–] 3 points 3 months ago (1 child)

    But love and attachment pulled Anakin to the Dark side wasn't that their entire position on it?

    Or did I miss a plot but? I always thought ep 3 was clear, Anakin wanted love more than what was right and screwed up the social order by helping the emperor to in theory save Padme but then he went down the dark side and was no longer a Jedi. I thought that's what Yoda assumed would happen too, in some way.

    Honestly that's a legit question I truely miss those things in movies often, even if I've seen them a lot, not nearly as much as EP 4-6 of course, but close since it was on repeat at the electronics store I worked at.

    I thought the intent was to show the Jedi more naive, but holding to their ideals in the face of danger. Even if it meant all but a few got killed. But also show that their ideala lived on in the end (unsure about extended only read a few books) so they sort of win too.

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  • [–] 7 points 3 months ago (2 children)

    Anakin was unable to suppress his love and other emotions in the way the Jedi demanded, true. But it is because of the false dichotomy between Jedi emotional denial and Sith narcissistic indulgence that this meant Anakin fell to the dark side. Luke broke the dichotomy and did good through his love of his father.

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