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Child labor laws were enacted in the 1930s fyi, its not new for capitalists to use children. (lemmy.world)

submitted 2 years ago by Sgt_choke_n_stroke@lemmy.world to c/leftymemes@lemmy.dbzer0.com

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[–] Socsa@sh.itjust.works 9 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Child labor is definitely not historically unique to capitalism, even in the modern era.

Stalin famously conscripted people into the labor reserve starting at 14 and the gulag system has plenty of history of child labor. And so on.

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[–] Sgt_choke_n_stroke@lemmy.world [S] 5 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child)

What's the difference between prison and a gulag? The same difference between an oligarch and a billionaire

Edit: holy shit it's like arguing with Colin Robinson don't bother

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[–] Socsa@sh.itjust.works -3 points 2 years ago* (1 child)

Im not really sure how that has anything to do with my comment. You can't dunk on capitalism for child labor and then be like "it's ok if Stalin does it because capitalism does it." That invalidates the original dunk, no?

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[–] Sgt_choke_n_stroke@lemmy.world [S] 4 points 2 years ago (1 child)

I don't know where you think I'm defending Stalin, I'm just pointing out, america uses juvenile detention centers for child labor as well. Gulags=prisons

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[–] Socsa@sh.itjust.works -2 points 2 years ago

You are the one who made a meme about capitalism and child labor?

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[+] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago

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