▲ 223 ▼ What is your preferred form of proportional representation, and why? (lemmy.ca) submitted 4 months ago* by shadysus@lemmy.ca to c/asklemmy@lemmy.world 86 comments fedilink hide all child comments links: https://www.fairvote.ca/open-list-proportional-representation/ https://www.fairvote.ca/stv/ https://www.fairvote.ca/mixed-member-proportional/ Regional Proportional Representation
[–] Doomsider@lemmy.world 1 point 4 months ago (1 child) Show me a Democratic model practiced on a large scale that has not descended into an oligarchy of corruption. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Artisian@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago (1 child) On the extreme end, Quakers. Consensus is clearly a democratic voting scheme, and they've run everything from churches to universities to states to companies with it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Doomsider@lemmy.world 1 point 4 months ago (1 child) Why do you think it is so effective for them? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Artisian@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago (1 child) Consensus is quite hard to corrupt by design. You trade off some substantial amount of efficiency, and most groups aren't willing to commit to working towards it. They believe everyone's got some good in them, and that good will end up getting the important decisions to happen. I note that they don't seem to actually control for this belief all that hard. Perhaps anyone who doesn't believe gets too impatient and moves on. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Doomsider@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago Yes, I looked it up. A non adversarial voting system based around consensus. This is similar to a system I strive for in my workplace. Thanks for pointing this out, while extreme it does offer some good insight especially for someone who is over the first past the post system like me. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Artisian@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago (1 child) On the extreme end, Quakers. Consensus is clearly a democratic voting scheme, and they've run everything from churches to universities to states to companies with it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Doomsider@lemmy.world 1 point 4 months ago (1 child) Why do you think it is so effective for them? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Artisian@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago (1 child) Consensus is quite hard to corrupt by design. You trade off some substantial amount of efficiency, and most groups aren't willing to commit to working towards it. They believe everyone's got some good in them, and that good will end up getting the important decisions to happen. I note that they don't seem to actually control for this belief all that hard. Perhaps anyone who doesn't believe gets too impatient and moves on. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Doomsider@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago Yes, I looked it up. A non adversarial voting system based around consensus. This is similar to a system I strive for in my workplace. Thanks for pointing this out, while extreme it does offer some good insight especially for someone who is over the first past the post system like me. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Doomsider@lemmy.world 1 point 4 months ago (1 child) Why do you think it is so effective for them? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Artisian@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago (1 child) Consensus is quite hard to corrupt by design. You trade off some substantial amount of efficiency, and most groups aren't willing to commit to working towards it. They believe everyone's got some good in them, and that good will end up getting the important decisions to happen. I note that they don't seem to actually control for this belief all that hard. Perhaps anyone who doesn't believe gets too impatient and moves on. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Doomsider@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago Yes, I looked it up. A non adversarial voting system based around consensus. This is similar to a system I strive for in my workplace. Thanks for pointing this out, while extreme it does offer some good insight especially for someone who is over the first past the post system like me. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Artisian@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago (1 child) Consensus is quite hard to corrupt by design. You trade off some substantial amount of efficiency, and most groups aren't willing to commit to working towards it. They believe everyone's got some good in them, and that good will end up getting the important decisions to happen. I note that they don't seem to actually control for this belief all that hard. Perhaps anyone who doesn't believe gets too impatient and moves on. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Doomsider@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago Yes, I looked it up. A non adversarial voting system based around consensus. This is similar to a system I strive for in my workplace. Thanks for pointing this out, while extreme it does offer some good insight especially for someone who is over the first past the post system like me. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Doomsider@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago Yes, I looked it up. A non adversarial voting system based around consensus. This is similar to a system I strive for in my workplace. Thanks for pointing this out, while extreme it does offer some good insight especially for someone who is over the first past the post system like me. permalink fedilink source parent
