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Punish the Democrats, she says (discuss.online)
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[–] -5 points 4 months ago (2 children)

did I say anything…

You said sham, which indicates by proxy a lack of desire to participate.

harris didn’t get…was made vp…

Yes, I said shitlibs won’t change. Primaries have nothing to do with who gets picked as VP. They’re there for you to put who you want in as runner. Works well enough for the other team.

What primaries…

None, shitlibs.

Its interesting…

Really? Why are you surprised? Fun fact: this has been going on for a long, long time. Why? Because the people don’t vote in numbers, not do they understand their system well enough to get it to work for them.

You know who does? Yep, Republicans. They do this time in time out and religiously. They don’t piss and moan about this candidate or that; they vote the nutbag in at primary time then follow up. They do, not whinge.

I am voting all the primaries

Good, if you and enough others do it, you should get your candidate.

but I am not voting for some trash line Newsom

Who is better than Trump, if he’s the candidate and you don’t nothing changes and your system allows no other approach. You will be letting your country down again.

instead of palantir and trump

If you think Newsom is as bad as Trump you’re outright stupid.

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  • [–] 7 points 4 months ago (1 child)

    If you think Newsom is as bad as Trump you’re outright stupid.

    If you think he's an acceptable candidate, you'll be blaming everyone who tells you he'll lose when it happens.

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  • [–] -4 points 4 months ago (1 child)

    if you think

    I don’t. Get out there in the primaries, make sure it’s not him.

    But for fuck sake if that fails, don’t abstain. Vote the letter, like the winners do

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  • [–] 2 points 4 months ago* (1 child)

    if you think

    I don’t.

    That much is crystal clear.

    I don’t. Get out there in the primaries, make sure it’s not him.

    More gloating from the genocide wing that rigs and prevents primaries in such a way that non-genocidal candidates are shut out of the process, not by the voters but by the party apparatus.

    But for fuck sake if that fails, don’t abstain.

    I fucking didn't. But that will NEVER stop you genocide lovers from assuming that anyone who isn't as delighted by genocide as you have always been and always will be doesn't already vote for what you pretend is harm reduction. You would have voted for trump all three times if his opponent had breathed a word to indicate that they would actually follow the law regarding supplying weapons for genocide.

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  • [–] -1 points 4 months ago (1 child)

    That much is crystal clear

    Hahaha bright eyes I’m not the one who elected and us going through all this ay. I wouldn’t be pulling that shit on if I were you

    more gloating from the genocide wing

    More tribal American shit from tribal Americans who cannot think beyond their movement in politics.

    rigs and prevents

    Republicans have had no issues with it for the past…decades…

    in such a way that

    You say that, I reckon it’s just simply not enough of you voting

    But yes, it’s on me and my tribe, my wing. I helped prevent your candidates from getting there.

    I fucking didn’t

    Excellent.

    but tgat will never stop you genocide lovers

    Yep, totally support the actions of Israel, you said so and will keep doing so regardless if tge truth because your points hinge on that necessity; I must be a Zionist

    you would have voted for Trump

    This is a stupid fuckin statement and deserves little regard.

    As a foreigner, I’ve been opposing Trump openly since he ran the first time. I’ve called this shit since Gingrich and Ryan were obstructing Obama. Back then you were telling us it couldn’t happen, the Supreme Court would stop it, I knew you fools would let the country fall. I hoped you wouldn’t do it twice, but here we are.

    You’ll do it again too, if you’re lucky enough to get a reprieve.

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  • [–] 3 points 4 months ago (1 child)

    Back then you were telling us it couldn’t happen, the Supreme Court would stop it, I knew you fools would let the country fall. I hoped you wouldn’t do it twice, but here we are.

    I was doing nothing of the sort. I was doing the same thing I'm doing now, being upset at centrist democrats for capitulating to fascists every chance they get.

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  • [–] -1 points 4 months ago (1 child)

    Great. Then you should know fucken better you gormless clown.

    Fuck me. Ay?

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  • [–] 2 points 4 months ago (1 child)

    Great. Then you should know fucken better you gormless clown.

    This is what you say to people who voted for harris but still don't like her because she's a genocidal piece of shit.

    Fuck me

    Yes, fuck you and all other genocide supporters.

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  • [–] -1 points 4 months ago (1 child)

    Genocide supporters

    Champ for the final time I’m not an American, aren’t part of the tribal scene and I vote on social issues close to home for parties and independents who broadly support the Palestinian position. Though it is not a voting issue for me, never has been, I don’t support parties or reps that are otherwise positioned.

    It’s broadly not a voting issue for me.

    That’s your positioning of me, not the truth. Your country’s failure is its inability to vote, in primaries or main elections. That has been the case for a long time.

    The president you have reflects the country in every way. The excuses they give, typical of privileged people who don’t understand how much influence their vote genuinely holds.

    Immature, selfish people with a fitting leadership. Pedophile enablers, double tappers on schools.

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  • [–] 2 points 4 months ago

    The excuses they give, typical of privileged people who don’t understand how much influence their vote genuinely holds.

    Why do you think I'm providing excuses for not voting when I vote in the primaries and the general election every time?

    As long as I say anything less than worshipful of netanyahu, you will continue to ignore how I voted.

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  • [–] 4 points 4 months ago* (1 child)

    “this time sham” meant the 24 primaries where the democratic candidate was selected for us based on the most obedient pet for superpacs and israel.

    as for other points, i dont give a shit what republicans do. if a candidate doesn’t meet the minimum standards, no one should be voting for them. we will never get a candidate like obama or sanders ever again if we keep voting snakes painted in fake blue color. and sooner or later they will as bad as red snakes. or worse

    dnc elites only stopped whining about mamdani during the primaries when it became clear its helping him as most nyc voters hated them as much as republicans

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  • [–] -3 points 4 months ago* (3 children)

    the 24 primaries

    Didn’t happen because the incumbent was originally running. That only changed because it became apparent he’d get flogged.

    The ones who did have primaries were Republicans, though they all pulled out when…it became apparent who they’d all vote for. Hmm.

    I don’t give a shit what Republicans do

    I would. They school you pretty much every election, both the centrists and the left.

    Sanders

    Was an independent and never getting their support.

    Obama

    Is a centrist and not that much better than Harris so I’m not sure where you’re headed with that. That said, Obama was a very good president. I have no doubt Harris would have at least been better than Trump and here’s the kicker…there’d certainly be no war and there’d be a peace process underway in Gaza.

    sooner or later they will be as bad as red snakes

    I hear this a lot but have yet to see it come to fruition, as tepid as they are

    DNC elites

    Never stopped whining about Mamdani until the last gasp, so much so, one ran against him. They don’t change and you will not drag them to it. You’ll kill your country trying though.

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  • [–] 9 points 4 months ago* (1 child)

    there’d certainly be no war and there’d be a peace process underway in Gaza.

    good one, boy do i have bridges to sell you. and you were calling me stupid.

    go through this Kamala Harris says Iran is ‘greatest adversary’ of US Democratic presidential candidate says preventing Iran from acquiring a nuclear weapon is one of her top priorities.

    ofcourse there won’t be war. it will be a special military op with a much better propaganda and likely dragging other nato countries in it too.

    iran war was already decided by people who control both party leaders even before the election. only way it wouldn’t have happened was a 3rd party winning which can’t happen (or warren or bernie wining 2020)

    do you know both harris and pelosi worked hard to defund a california state initiative to help independent candidates get basic financial support on getting enough votes ?

    go through her political carrier, she had always been a out of touch hack who would have easily joined trump like tulsi if it meant better prospects. she had taken millions from aipac and married to a rich ultra zionist lawyer. i have no doubt she will be negotiating relelection campaign in return of turning tehran to gaza and murdering iranian kids by labelling them hamas

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  • [–] -4 points 4 months ago* (1 child)

    boy do I have

    Well good for you champion and good for your link. Under Harris there’d have been a shitload more vetting for a start. There is no way she’d have carried out the strikes Trump has nor allowed the Israelis to do the same.

    Harris comments do not interpret into a full scale attack. In fact there’s nothing there that says her intention isn’t to use negotiation or soft power to achieve that. What actually was going on before…well, you non voting or Trump voting clowns I guess. The rest is history.

    I’m well aware she’s an out of touch hack as you put it, but this war was started because Netanyahu has full control over the fool Americans elected again. That was why Netanyahu conspired with Hamas to start that attack in the first place…to fool Americans into not voting for Biden and by extension Harris. To fool them into not voting, plus start the holy war he’s wanted to start for decades.

    You were all played, and easily too. All it took was some great espionage thanks to Epstein and knowledge that a massive portion of American voters are lazy, stupid, awful people and easily played. That you continue go in with your view that she would have been as bad is childish. Well it’s a fart sniffing exercise as we know, but anyway. Yeah, sure, she’ll support Israel but this wouldn’t have been happening and anyone rational knows that.

    You’ll be played again as well.

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  • [–] 4 points 4 months ago (1 child)

    i don’t understand, almost all of the logic in your reply is our democracy is a farce in two party system and we need to wipe out both parties and israel to have a any hope of future. but your conclusion is no we should keep participating in it with no minimum standards else one will “lazy stupid and awful” ?

    and yes the presidential candidate who said not a single negative thing about isreal during her entire campaign and or did anything as vp to stop israel from bombing hospital tents or kids just collecting water would have done nothing different with iran other than crocodile tears once on a while for “unavoidable tragedies of war”

    fuck her and may she rot in the same hell beside biden, trump and rest of maga trash.

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  • [–] -2 points 4 months ago (1 child)

    Nope, my position is their citizens keep voting in primaries for candidates who will effect change, then vote them in as reps.

    My rationale for it is the Republicans have been doing exactly that for decades and succeeding. It will work for the other side too but it will take time and commitment.

    Provided that now, because the Republicans have done this with the lunatics for so long and those lunatics know that voting is critical, they get a fair vote.

    It doesn’t matter though, no matter what’s blitheringly obvious, you won’t listen and you’ll just keep on pushing ‘you’re naive; it’s all a conspiracy and Dems are as bad as the others because they won’t change for me’

    Next, please. You’re like a conga line of piss and moan

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  • [–] 2 points 4 months ago (1 child)

    you’ll just keep on pushing ‘you’re naive; it’s all a conspiracy

    yeah its conspiracy that biden shamelessly did what 90% of voter base was against and harris said she will do it again. now trump is doing what 60% his base is against.

    all the piss and moaning is done by blue maga cucks who keep posting these cringe meme like this post we are replying to. we are not asking for perfection, only that adhere to agendas your entire voter base wants. no compromise on stopping corpo parasites and genocide.

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  • [–] 0 points 4 months ago

    that Biden shamelessly did

    What? Parachute Harris in? IIRC, that was a broadly popular move.

    It does not alter my original and only genuine point though; if you and your ilk all vote, you’ll stop this. That is evidenced by the Republicans doing the same.

    now Trump is doing the same

    No, he’s doing worse, because there’s no way this would be going on Harris been elected. We all told you this would happen around the time we told you that you’d elect him again.

    all the pissing and moaning

    Is being done collectively by Americans, not just blue MAGA cucks as you put it. They’re all full of excuses, they just vary in angle. Poor reps. Can’t vote because job. Not me I didn’t vote for it. This is not what I voted for. We can’t do anything it’s rigged. Take a card.

    your entire voter base

    Not mine. Check my country. I’ll throw you a bone; I agree, I think the Democrats are dogshit, offer dogshit candidates, are beholden to outside influences and there’s rationale behind the complaints of the left. Absolutely. Fucken oath they should have backed Sanders, Warren,AOC and I’m glad Mamdani owned them because it is finally proof to the shitlibs that progressive candidates are what is needed.

    Just vote. Participate, even if it’s a non desirable candidate who at least won’t continue a petrochemical war. Until you can get the people in who will then make voting third party worthwhile by offering ranked choice as you call it, it’s counterproductive. I know, but they won’t, okay? The long route is the only way.

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  • [–] 4 points 4 months ago (1 child)

    I love how you call others shitlibs. Yikes, you're like king of the liberals. Zero understanding of politics, just parroting terms you don't understand.

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  • [–] -3 points 4 months ago (1 child)

    I love…

    Good for you

    king of the liberals

    Lmao I’m not even close.

    zero understanding of politics

    Yeah righto. Keep losing while they keep voting. Well it might be too late for that now.

    parroting terms you don’t understand

    I understand the US voters failed the world and its own people by failing to vote or keep out bad candidates. For the rest I couldn’t care less what Americans think of me given what they’ve been responsible for recently.

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  • [–] 2 points 4 months ago (1 child)

    there’d certainly be no war and there’d be a peace process underway in Gaza.

    And this is why I have zero interest in "lesser evil" arguments: because even the people makeing them aren't willing to accept the evil they are actually advocating for, they have to make to less evil versions in their heads to pretend are real.

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  • [–] -2 points 4 months ago (1 child)

    they have to make

    That's probably the worst part of this and one of the worst excuses you grubs give.

    You have no idea of that to begin because you installed Trump, not Harris. For installing trump, which is your responsibility as a collective, there truly has been a genocide, one of the worst we’ve seen. Harris said he’d do this and he has. You’re guessing she would, based on your twisted belief she’s as bad (or your knowledge that you’re horribly wrong and can’t bust your ego)

    Being a fart sniffer though, and the job of who you elected done for your excuses, you’re running the line that a government never elected would be worse.

    I’m telling you nothing could be worse than what we gave and it’s bearing out.

    Suck that fart in, people died for it. Beyond that I couldn’t care less what your view is, you’re American.

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  • [–] 1 point 4 months ago (1 child)

    I'm glad ghouls like you are suffering: you deserve it, the world is a better place for it, and I'm happy I apparently had the power to make for suffer, and I will happily use that power I have to make you suffer in the future.

    For installing trump, which is your responsibility as a collective, there truly has been a genocide

    See? You're a genocide denying fascist ghoul. Anyone who thinks that there was no Genocide in Gaza in 2023 deserves the same thing as their Nazi forefathers. To suffer and be destroyed.

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  • [–] -1 points 4 months ago (1 child)

    I’m glad ghouls like you are suffering

    I’m not suffering. Am I missing something? My life is fine.

    I’m happy I had the power to make you suffer

    What gave you done to make me suffer? I said I wasn’t suffering. I’m not in any of the areas America has bombed or shut out nor am I in the US. You have not made me suffer.

    I will happily use that power

    I know. Go ahead. You’re not hurting me.

    you’re a genocide denying fool

    How does America installing Trump as their president make me a genocide denying fool? I’m well aware Netanyahu is carrying out a genocide, he’s been doing that for a long time. That's what he has you in place for.

    I never said there was no genocide in Gaza at any time. I’m just not dumb enough to be fooled by the real bad actors. Doesn’t worry me though, not my vote, not blood on my hands either.

    to suffer and be destroyed

    Are you fattening out your chest again?

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  • [–] 1 point 4 months ago* (1 child)

    Yeah man, you definitely seem like you're very happy and content, lol

    I never said there was no genocide in Gaza at any time.

    You literally did though, dumbass. You should probably go back and edit your post so people don't see you slipped up. Not that anyone hasn't already realised how dishonest you people are.

    Are you fattening out your chest again?

    God you're a fucking nerd

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  • [–] -1 points 4 months ago (1 child)

    yeah man…

    Yep and your attempt to position me otherwise is as weak as the attempts to position me as supporting genocide, simply because I called out your inability to vote.

    Sure, it’s annoying to see a pack of you gang up but I wouldn’t expect any different and it’s the same weak argument from the lot. But outside that there’s not a chance in hell I’d swap with any of you.

    you literally did

    Then point it out, because I’ve gone over my comments twice. Are you fabricating done thing else up? There’s been genocide in Gaza this time since Netanyahu rigged up that invasion, worse since you clowns put Trump in.

    how dishonest you people

    For telling you that the reason you're here is because you can’t vote? Then fuck yeah I’m dishonest bright eyes

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  • [–] 1 point 4 months ago* (2 children)

    Lol, so mad you can't even keep your lies straight. I did point out where you denied the genocide, by the way. It's also genocide trivialization to try and spread the lie that genocide wasn't as bad in 2023.

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  • [–] -1 points 4 months ago (1 child)

    Righto, so this now. Trying to confuse, editing comments, offering nothing, assuming I’m mad.

    Pissweak American. I’m not engaging anymore, there’s no good faith here except attempts to position me as one of your liberals you want to hate.

    My point, from the beginning, was that the US is here because they can’t vote. That remains the truth, and the evidence is borne out by how Republicans have been successful doing so. You can’t handle that truth and you’re all full of excuses, left to right.

    Look, please, for you, I’m a genocidal Zionist who fully supports the war in the Middle East. Americans are helpless people, controlled by centrist Democrats who demand they snap in line. All their excuses are valid. Take this and go because it’s a waste of my time and your country is finished anyway.

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