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[–] lingh0e@lemmy.film 11 points 2 years ago (1 child) Gtfo with that. There's plenty of legitimate shit talking about democrats. Just don't be a "both sides" asshole or a hexbear goon. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Bonskreeskreeskree@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago (1 child) My reddit and lemmy history strongly disagrees with you. Any criticism of dems is met with downvotes. Ill also argue that excusing shitty behavior from those on the left because "they're not as bad as republicans" is lesser of two evils bullshit that has enabled us to continue slipping further and further in the wrong direction, as a whole. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] lingh0e@lemmy.film 5 points 2 years ago (1 child) Yeah, my reddit and lemmy history strongly disagree with you too, chachi. I've literally never been called out for criticizing democrats. But then again I don't engage in weak "both sides" bullshit like you do. And it's funny how you initially said criticizing democrats gets you called a maga bootlicker, but now you say it's just "downvotes". permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Bonskreeskreeskree@lemmy.world -3 points 2 years ago (1 child) Comments and downvotes, now an exclusive response to comments online! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] lingh0e@lemmy.film 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) What are you trying to say? Yes, on a platform like Reddit or Lemmy, your options to respond are literally exclusive to commenting and/or voting. Nice dodge, btw. You don't have to respond to the crux of my response if you focus on a lesser point. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Bonskreeskreeskree@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago* (1 child) My point was you make it out as if comments and downvotes are exclusive. As if downvoting doesn't send a message in itself. The crux of your response? Saying that your personal online experience has been different than mine and somehow invalidates it? Was it really worth addressing? Maybe pay more attention to the comments you read through? You having not experienced it means nothing to those that have permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] griefreeze@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) Pretty sure the whole point of them sharing a personal anecdote wasn't to invalidate yours so much as to point out that your experience is, in fact, anecdotal and therefore not concrete enough of a justification to make the blanket statement of "you can't criticize Dems on left-leaning social media" (paraphrased). It's certainly your lived experience, but to generalize entire platforms based on it is asinine. Need more data to make a statement like that and not be challenged. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Bonskreeskreeskree@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago (1 child) I understand where you're coming from, but myself making a statement that I have experienced something first hand and witnessed others experience such responses to criticism means a lot more than someone saying they have never. It's like someone saying I was bullied in high-school to then have others say I was never bullied in school, bullies don't exist. It's an irrelevant statement and is only trying to dismiss one's experiences. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] griefreeze@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago Apologies for the late reply, I guess I didn't have notifications set up correctly. I think I see the point you're making, but I don't think that it contradicts my point. Your analogy isn't quite applicable here because no one is saying vocal-toxic-leftists don't exist, we're saying that just because you have seen vocal-toxic-leftists you can't defensibly generalize large groups with such little evidence. It's early and I haven't had coffee, so I apologize again if what I said isn't so clear. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Bonskreeskreeskree@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago (1 child) My reddit and lemmy history strongly disagrees with you. Any criticism of dems is met with downvotes. Ill also argue that excusing shitty behavior from those on the left because "they're not as bad as republicans" is lesser of two evils bullshit that has enabled us to continue slipping further and further in the wrong direction, as a whole. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] lingh0e@lemmy.film 5 points 2 years ago (1 child) Yeah, my reddit and lemmy history strongly disagree with you too, chachi. I've literally never been called out for criticizing democrats. But then again I don't engage in weak "both sides" bullshit like you do. And it's funny how you initially said criticizing democrats gets you called a maga bootlicker, but now you say it's just "downvotes". permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Bonskreeskreeskree@lemmy.world -3 points 2 years ago (1 child) Comments and downvotes, now an exclusive response to comments online! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] lingh0e@lemmy.film 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) What are you trying to say? Yes, on a platform like Reddit or Lemmy, your options to respond are literally exclusive to commenting and/or voting. Nice dodge, btw. You don't have to respond to the crux of my response if you focus on a lesser point. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Bonskreeskreeskree@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago* (1 child) My point was you make it out as if comments and downvotes are exclusive. As if downvoting doesn't send a message in itself. The crux of your response? Saying that your personal online experience has been different than mine and somehow invalidates it? Was it really worth addressing? Maybe pay more attention to the comments you read through? You having not experienced it means nothing to those that have permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] griefreeze@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) Pretty sure the whole point of them sharing a personal anecdote wasn't to invalidate yours so much as to point out that your experience is, in fact, anecdotal and therefore not concrete enough of a justification to make the blanket statement of "you can't criticize Dems on left-leaning social media" (paraphrased). It's certainly your lived experience, but to generalize entire platforms based on it is asinine. Need more data to make a statement like that and not be challenged. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Bonskreeskreeskree@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago (1 child) I understand where you're coming from, but myself making a statement that I have experienced something first hand and witnessed others experience such responses to criticism means a lot more than someone saying they have never. It's like someone saying I was bullied in high-school to then have others say I was never bullied in school, bullies don't exist. It's an irrelevant statement and is only trying to dismiss one's experiences. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] griefreeze@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago Apologies for the late reply, I guess I didn't have notifications set up correctly. I think I see the point you're making, but I don't think that it contradicts my point. Your analogy isn't quite applicable here because no one is saying vocal-toxic-leftists don't exist, we're saying that just because you have seen vocal-toxic-leftists you can't defensibly generalize large groups with such little evidence. It's early and I haven't had coffee, so I apologize again if what I said isn't so clear. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] lingh0e@lemmy.film 5 points 2 years ago (1 child) Yeah, my reddit and lemmy history strongly disagree with you too, chachi. I've literally never been called out for criticizing democrats. But then again I don't engage in weak "both sides" bullshit like you do. And it's funny how you initially said criticizing democrats gets you called a maga bootlicker, but now you say it's just "downvotes". permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Bonskreeskreeskree@lemmy.world -3 points 2 years ago (1 child) Comments and downvotes, now an exclusive response to comments online! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] lingh0e@lemmy.film 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) What are you trying to say? Yes, on a platform like Reddit or Lemmy, your options to respond are literally exclusive to commenting and/or voting. Nice dodge, btw. You don't have to respond to the crux of my response if you focus on a lesser point. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Bonskreeskreeskree@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago* (1 child) My point was you make it out as if comments and downvotes are exclusive. As if downvoting doesn't send a message in itself. The crux of your response? Saying that your personal online experience has been different than mine and somehow invalidates it? Was it really worth addressing? Maybe pay more attention to the comments you read through? You having not experienced it means nothing to those that have permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] griefreeze@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) Pretty sure the whole point of them sharing a personal anecdote wasn't to invalidate yours so much as to point out that your experience is, in fact, anecdotal and therefore not concrete enough of a justification to make the blanket statement of "you can't criticize Dems on left-leaning social media" (paraphrased). It's certainly your lived experience, but to generalize entire platforms based on it is asinine. Need more data to make a statement like that and not be challenged. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Bonskreeskreeskree@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago (1 child) I understand where you're coming from, but myself making a statement that I have experienced something first hand and witnessed others experience such responses to criticism means a lot more than someone saying they have never. It's like someone saying I was bullied in high-school to then have others say I was never bullied in school, bullies don't exist. It's an irrelevant statement and is only trying to dismiss one's experiences. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] griefreeze@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago Apologies for the late reply, I guess I didn't have notifications set up correctly. I think I see the point you're making, but I don't think that it contradicts my point. Your analogy isn't quite applicable here because no one is saying vocal-toxic-leftists don't exist, we're saying that just because you have seen vocal-toxic-leftists you can't defensibly generalize large groups with such little evidence. It's early and I haven't had coffee, so I apologize again if what I said isn't so clear. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Bonskreeskreeskree@lemmy.world -3 points 2 years ago (1 child) Comments and downvotes, now an exclusive response to comments online! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] lingh0e@lemmy.film 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) What are you trying to say? Yes, on a platform like Reddit or Lemmy, your options to respond are literally exclusive to commenting and/or voting. Nice dodge, btw. You don't have to respond to the crux of my response if you focus on a lesser point. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Bonskreeskreeskree@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago* (1 child) My point was you make it out as if comments and downvotes are exclusive. As if downvoting doesn't send a message in itself. The crux of your response? Saying that your personal online experience has been different than mine and somehow invalidates it? Was it really worth addressing? Maybe pay more attention to the comments you read through? You having not experienced it means nothing to those that have permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] griefreeze@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) Pretty sure the whole point of them sharing a personal anecdote wasn't to invalidate yours so much as to point out that your experience is, in fact, anecdotal and therefore not concrete enough of a justification to make the blanket statement of "you can't criticize Dems on left-leaning social media" (paraphrased). It's certainly your lived experience, but to generalize entire platforms based on it is asinine. Need more data to make a statement like that and not be challenged. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Bonskreeskreeskree@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago (1 child) I understand where you're coming from, but myself making a statement that I have experienced something first hand and witnessed others experience such responses to criticism means a lot more than someone saying they have never. It's like someone saying I was bullied in high-school to then have others say I was never bullied in school, bullies don't exist. It's an irrelevant statement and is only trying to dismiss one's experiences. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] griefreeze@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago Apologies for the late reply, I guess I didn't have notifications set up correctly. I think I see the point you're making, but I don't think that it contradicts my point. Your analogy isn't quite applicable here because no one is saying vocal-toxic-leftists don't exist, we're saying that just because you have seen vocal-toxic-leftists you can't defensibly generalize large groups with such little evidence. It's early and I haven't had coffee, so I apologize again if what I said isn't so clear. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] lingh0e@lemmy.film 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) What are you trying to say? Yes, on a platform like Reddit or Lemmy, your options to respond are literally exclusive to commenting and/or voting. Nice dodge, btw. You don't have to respond to the crux of my response if you focus on a lesser point. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Bonskreeskreeskree@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago* (1 child) My point was you make it out as if comments and downvotes are exclusive. As if downvoting doesn't send a message in itself. The crux of your response? Saying that your personal online experience has been different than mine and somehow invalidates it? Was it really worth addressing? Maybe pay more attention to the comments you read through? You having not experienced it means nothing to those that have permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] griefreeze@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) Pretty sure the whole point of them sharing a personal anecdote wasn't to invalidate yours so much as to point out that your experience is, in fact, anecdotal and therefore not concrete enough of a justification to make the blanket statement of "you can't criticize Dems on left-leaning social media" (paraphrased). It's certainly your lived experience, but to generalize entire platforms based on it is asinine. Need more data to make a statement like that and not be challenged. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Bonskreeskreeskree@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago (1 child) I understand where you're coming from, but myself making a statement that I have experienced something first hand and witnessed others experience such responses to criticism means a lot more than someone saying they have never. It's like someone saying I was bullied in high-school to then have others say I was never bullied in school, bullies don't exist. It's an irrelevant statement and is only trying to dismiss one's experiences. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] griefreeze@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago Apologies for the late reply, I guess I didn't have notifications set up correctly. I think I see the point you're making, but I don't think that it contradicts my point. Your analogy isn't quite applicable here because no one is saying vocal-toxic-leftists don't exist, we're saying that just because you have seen vocal-toxic-leftists you can't defensibly generalize large groups with such little evidence. It's early and I haven't had coffee, so I apologize again if what I said isn't so clear. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Bonskreeskreeskree@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago* (1 child) My point was you make it out as if comments and downvotes are exclusive. As if downvoting doesn't send a message in itself. The crux of your response? Saying that your personal online experience has been different than mine and somehow invalidates it? Was it really worth addressing? Maybe pay more attention to the comments you read through? You having not experienced it means nothing to those that have permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] griefreeze@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) Pretty sure the whole point of them sharing a personal anecdote wasn't to invalidate yours so much as to point out that your experience is, in fact, anecdotal and therefore not concrete enough of a justification to make the blanket statement of "you can't criticize Dems on left-leaning social media" (paraphrased). It's certainly your lived experience, but to generalize entire platforms based on it is asinine. Need more data to make a statement like that and not be challenged. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Bonskreeskreeskree@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago (1 child) I understand where you're coming from, but myself making a statement that I have experienced something first hand and witnessed others experience such responses to criticism means a lot more than someone saying they have never. It's like someone saying I was bullied in high-school to then have others say I was never bullied in school, bullies don't exist. It's an irrelevant statement and is only trying to dismiss one's experiences. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] griefreeze@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago Apologies for the late reply, I guess I didn't have notifications set up correctly. I think I see the point you're making, but I don't think that it contradicts my point. Your analogy isn't quite applicable here because no one is saying vocal-toxic-leftists don't exist, we're saying that just because you have seen vocal-toxic-leftists you can't defensibly generalize large groups with such little evidence. It's early and I haven't had coffee, so I apologize again if what I said isn't so clear. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] griefreeze@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) Pretty sure the whole point of them sharing a personal anecdote wasn't to invalidate yours so much as to point out that your experience is, in fact, anecdotal and therefore not concrete enough of a justification to make the blanket statement of "you can't criticize Dems on left-leaning social media" (paraphrased). It's certainly your lived experience, but to generalize entire platforms based on it is asinine. Need more data to make a statement like that and not be challenged. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Bonskreeskreeskree@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago (1 child) I understand where you're coming from, but myself making a statement that I have experienced something first hand and witnessed others experience such responses to criticism means a lot more than someone saying they have never. It's like someone saying I was bullied in high-school to then have others say I was never bullied in school, bullies don't exist. It's an irrelevant statement and is only trying to dismiss one's experiences. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] griefreeze@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago Apologies for the late reply, I guess I didn't have notifications set up correctly. I think I see the point you're making, but I don't think that it contradicts my point. Your analogy isn't quite applicable here because no one is saying vocal-toxic-leftists don't exist, we're saying that just because you have seen vocal-toxic-leftists you can't defensibly generalize large groups with such little evidence. It's early and I haven't had coffee, so I apologize again if what I said isn't so clear. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Bonskreeskreeskree@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago (1 child) I understand where you're coming from, but myself making a statement that I have experienced something first hand and witnessed others experience such responses to criticism means a lot more than someone saying they have never. It's like someone saying I was bullied in high-school to then have others say I was never bullied in school, bullies don't exist. It's an irrelevant statement and is only trying to dismiss one's experiences. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] griefreeze@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago Apologies for the late reply, I guess I didn't have notifications set up correctly. I think I see the point you're making, but I don't think that it contradicts my point. Your analogy isn't quite applicable here because no one is saying vocal-toxic-leftists don't exist, we're saying that just because you have seen vocal-toxic-leftists you can't defensibly generalize large groups with such little evidence. It's early and I haven't had coffee, so I apologize again if what I said isn't so clear. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] griefreeze@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago Apologies for the late reply, I guess I didn't have notifications set up correctly. I think I see the point you're making, but I don't think that it contradicts my point. Your analogy isn't quite applicable here because no one is saying vocal-toxic-leftists don't exist, we're saying that just because you have seen vocal-toxic-leftists you can't defensibly generalize large groups with such little evidence. It's early and I haven't had coffee, so I apologize again if what I said isn't so clear. permalink fedilink source parent