▲ 507 ▼ Battery costs have declined by 99% in the last three decades, making electrified transport a reality (ourworldindata.org) submitted 4 months ago by Beep@lemmus.org to c/technology@lemmy.world 91 comments fedilink hide all child comments Batteries have become much cheaper, making energy storage far more affordable.
[+] pennomi@lemmy.world -4 points 4 months ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (3 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] tburkhol@lemmy.world 8 points 4 months ago Because US businesses will only compete and innovate if you force them. Leave them safe behind ramparts of protective trade policies, and they'll keep coasting on 1990s technology, as the country as a whole slowly becomes a backwater. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Buffalox@lemmy.world 4 points 4 months ago (1 child) No the nation doesn't, it just degrades into further noncompetitiveness, and increased consumer prices. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] prodigalsorcerer@lemmy.ca 6 points 4 months ago (1 child) Short term tariffs can allow domestic manufacturing to reach the design and scale to be competitive without tariffs. This was, in theory, the idea behind the 100% tariffs on Chinese EVs. Of course, none of the American auto manufacturers are doing anything with that leeway other than continuing to be terrible. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Buffalox@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) You are 100% correct that this is the general idea, the problem is that USA actually had a head start with Tesla, (as painful as it is to me to admit.) Now the lack of competition will only result in the loss of the lead USA had until just a few years ago. Of course Nazi Musk and Nazi Trump undermine American exports, and no amount of US tariffs can compensate for that. permalink fedilink source parent [–] SchmidtGenetics@lemmy.world -1 points 4 months ago* Does the nation benefit when there’s no actual benefits like health care for the citizens? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] tburkhol@lemmy.world 8 points 4 months ago Because US businesses will only compete and innovate if you force them. Leave them safe behind ramparts of protective trade policies, and they'll keep coasting on 1990s technology, as the country as a whole slowly becomes a backwater. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Buffalox@lemmy.world 4 points 4 months ago (1 child) No the nation doesn't, it just degrades into further noncompetitiveness, and increased consumer prices. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] prodigalsorcerer@lemmy.ca 6 points 4 months ago (1 child) Short term tariffs can allow domestic manufacturing to reach the design and scale to be competitive without tariffs. This was, in theory, the idea behind the 100% tariffs on Chinese EVs. Of course, none of the American auto manufacturers are doing anything with that leeway other than continuing to be terrible. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Buffalox@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) You are 100% correct that this is the general idea, the problem is that USA actually had a head start with Tesla, (as painful as it is to me to admit.) Now the lack of competition will only result in the loss of the lead USA had until just a few years ago. Of course Nazi Musk and Nazi Trump undermine American exports, and no amount of US tariffs can compensate for that. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] prodigalsorcerer@lemmy.ca 6 points 4 months ago (1 child) Short term tariffs can allow domestic manufacturing to reach the design and scale to be competitive without tariffs. This was, in theory, the idea behind the 100% tariffs on Chinese EVs. Of course, none of the American auto manufacturers are doing anything with that leeway other than continuing to be terrible. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Buffalox@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) You are 100% correct that this is the general idea, the problem is that USA actually had a head start with Tesla, (as painful as it is to me to admit.) Now the lack of competition will only result in the loss of the lead USA had until just a few years ago. Of course Nazi Musk and Nazi Trump undermine American exports, and no amount of US tariffs can compensate for that. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Buffalox@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) You are 100% correct that this is the general idea, the problem is that USA actually had a head start with Tesla, (as painful as it is to me to admit.) Now the lack of competition will only result in the loss of the lead USA had until just a few years ago. Of course Nazi Musk and Nazi Trump undermine American exports, and no amount of US tariffs can compensate for that. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] SchmidtGenetics@lemmy.world -1 points 4 months ago* Does the nation benefit when there’s no actual benefits like health care for the citizens? permalink fedilink source parent