▲ 1065 ▼ Israeli soldiers torture one-year-old Gaza child to force confessions from his father (www.aa.com.tr) submitted 4 months ago by MuskyMelon@lemmy.world to c/world@lemmy.world 226 comments fedilink hide all child comments The morality of torturing children cause they're not from the chosen people.
[+] Tmiwi@lemmy.world -9 points 4 months ago (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] doesit@sh.itjust.works 0 points 4 months ago (1 child) Who stated so? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Tmiwi@lemmy.world -14 points 4 months ago (2 children) they do. "The Hour will not be established until you fight with the Jews, and the stone behind which a Jew will be hiding will say: 'O Muslim! There is a Jew hiding behind me, so kill him.' read a book, it might help you understand permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Cethin@lemmy.zip 10 points 4 months ago* (1 child) "Who does...?" "They do..." There's always some vague "they", isn't there? Yes, it is promotes by some Muslims. It's not all, or probably even most, and definitely far from it in western nations. The same way I can say the same about Jews, because the Bible promotes killing in order to take land from people they decide aren't as deserving, this is bullshit reasoning. You can't just group all the followers of a religion into one belief. Hell, even the people in the same church, synagogue, mosque, or whatever house will have differences in opinion. Your logic promotes spreading hate targeting the wrong people. Talk to some people with different opinions sometime. It might help you understand. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Tmiwi@lemmy.world -12 points 4 months ago (3 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] Cethin@lemmy.zip 3 points 4 months ago (1 child) the they wasn't vague... I never said it was all...if you need specifics... Ok, it wasn't vague, but you meant all, but you never said it was all, and you can give specifics. Oh, but I should have known the specifics from context, even though you meant Muslims in general, but you also give just some specifics which doesn't include all of them. Sure, I know how to have a conversation. I also know what you're doing, which isn't a conversation. You want to just call other people evil. btw I'm ex Muslim so I'm well aware of the hatred I was raised in and surrounded by and don't need you minimising my lived experience just because it doesn't fit in with your world view. antisemitism is deeply rooted in islam, it's a fact. Cool story. I also lived with an atheist former Muslim. It isn't minimizing your experience to say that your experience has colored your outlook on life. I think religion in general is a tool for forming in-groups and out-groups, and that's the issue. It isn't Islam, nor Judaism, nor Christianity, nor any other. They all want to kill anyone else, because they know the truth. Islam isn't special. Religion is a tool of the elite to control people. Hate the right thing. It isn't the religious who are the problem, rather it's the elites wherever they can grab power. If you know your history, Christians went around murdering everyone in the middle east for a good chunk of time (and we still are), because their Truth is more truthy than Muslim's Truth, or whatever. Really, it was just a way for the elite to steal land. The Muslim leaders in power do the same thing. They use their religion to tell people to fight for them (yet they never do any of the fighting). The Jews do as well. The Torah, which they all stem from, has several stories promoting "righteous" genocide against other groups, which Israel is using to this day to say that the land belongs to them. You just need a leader in power willing to push those messages. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Tmiwi@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago (1 child) don't tell me what I meant please. also tbh your comment goes all over that place so I'm not sure what the trust of it is? religion is shit and everyone is at fault? yeah I broadly agree permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Cethin@lemmy.zip 1 point 4 months ago (1 child) OK, so I'm both supposed to know what you mean without asking, and I'm supposed to not tell you what I'm interpreting it as. Interesting. You get mad when I ask you and you get mad when I say what I got from it. It doesn't sound at all like you're trying to be racist without being explicit. Lol. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Tmiwi@lemmy.world -1 points 4 months ago no one is mad. except maybe the people who are writing rambling essays because of a comment from a stranger. I hope you enjoyed wasting your time. permalink fedilink source parent [+] toad@sh.itjust.works -1 points 4 months ago (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Cethin@lemmy.zip 1 point 4 months ago* (2 children) My bad, I thought your comment was the one responding to me. Not the one above. Sorry. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] toad@sh.itjust.works 0 points 4 months ago (1 child) You're grand permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Tmiwi@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago (1 child) btw I'm not Arab but good try. thanks for wishing my family dead I guess. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] toad@sh.itjust.works 0 points 4 months ago (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Tmiwi@lemmy.world 1 point 4 months ago I never wished for the death of anyone, especially your loved ones. you're unhinged. permalink fedilink source parent [+] toad@sh.itjust.works -1 points 4 months ago [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [+] toad@sh.itjust.works -2 points 4 months ago [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] doesit@sh.itjust.works 2 points 4 months ago (1 child) I mean in contemporary times. Not like hindreds or thousands of years ago. i'm not saying nobody says so. But who justifies war, genocide and land acquisition with biblical/islamic/judaic/... arguments. In this day and age. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Tmiwi@lemmy.world -8 points 4 months ago Christians, Muslims, Jews, Hindus, Americans. the list is endless. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] doesit@sh.itjust.works 0 points 4 months ago (1 child) Who stated so? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Tmiwi@lemmy.world -14 points 4 months ago (2 children) they do. "The Hour will not be established until you fight with the Jews, and the stone behind which a Jew will be hiding will say: 'O Muslim! There is a Jew hiding behind me, so kill him.' read a book, it might help you understand permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Cethin@lemmy.zip 10 points 4 months ago* (1 child) "Who does...?" "They do..." There's always some vague "they", isn't there? Yes, it is promotes by some Muslims. It's not all, or probably even most, and definitely far from it in western nations. The same way I can say the same about Jews, because the Bible promotes killing in order to take land from people they decide aren't as deserving, this is bullshit reasoning. You can't just group all the followers of a religion into one belief. Hell, even the people in the same church, synagogue, mosque, or whatever house will have differences in opinion. Your logic promotes spreading hate targeting the wrong people. Talk to some people with different opinions sometime. It might help you understand. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Tmiwi@lemmy.world -12 points 4 months ago (3 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] Cethin@lemmy.zip 3 points 4 months ago (1 child) the they wasn't vague... I never said it was all...if you need specifics... Ok, it wasn't vague, but you meant all, but you never said it was all, and you can give specifics. Oh, but I should have known the specifics from context, even though you meant Muslims in general, but you also give just some specifics which doesn't include all of them. Sure, I know how to have a conversation. I also know what you're doing, which isn't a conversation. You want to just call other people evil. btw I'm ex Muslim so I'm well aware of the hatred I was raised in and surrounded by and don't need you minimising my lived experience just because it doesn't fit in with your world view. antisemitism is deeply rooted in islam, it's a fact. Cool story. I also lived with an atheist former Muslim. It isn't minimizing your experience to say that your experience has colored your outlook on life. I think religion in general is a tool for forming in-groups and out-groups, and that's the issue. It isn't Islam, nor Judaism, nor Christianity, nor any other. They all want to kill anyone else, because they know the truth. Islam isn't special. Religion is a tool of the elite to control people. Hate the right thing. It isn't the religious who are the problem, rather it's the elites wherever they can grab power. If you know your history, Christians went around murdering everyone in the middle east for a good chunk of time (and we still are), because their Truth is more truthy than Muslim's Truth, or whatever. Really, it was just a way for the elite to steal land. The Muslim leaders in power do the same thing. They use their religion to tell people to fight for them (yet they never do any of the fighting). The Jews do as well. The Torah, which they all stem from, has several stories promoting "righteous" genocide against other groups, which Israel is using to this day to say that the land belongs to them. You just need a leader in power willing to push those messages. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Tmiwi@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago (1 child) don't tell me what I meant please. also tbh your comment goes all over that place so I'm not sure what the trust of it is? religion is shit and everyone is at fault? yeah I broadly agree permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Cethin@lemmy.zip 1 point 4 months ago (1 child) OK, so I'm both supposed to know what you mean without asking, and I'm supposed to not tell you what I'm interpreting it as. Interesting. You get mad when I ask you and you get mad when I say what I got from it. It doesn't sound at all like you're trying to be racist without being explicit. Lol. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Tmiwi@lemmy.world -1 points 4 months ago no one is mad. except maybe the people who are writing rambling essays because of a comment from a stranger. I hope you enjoyed wasting your time. permalink fedilink source parent [+] toad@sh.itjust.works -1 points 4 months ago (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Cethin@lemmy.zip 1 point 4 months ago* (2 children) My bad, I thought your comment was the one responding to me. Not the one above. Sorry. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] toad@sh.itjust.works 0 points 4 months ago (1 child) You're grand permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Tmiwi@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago (1 child) btw I'm not Arab but good try. thanks for wishing my family dead I guess. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] toad@sh.itjust.works 0 points 4 months ago (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Tmiwi@lemmy.world 1 point 4 months ago I never wished for the death of anyone, especially your loved ones. you're unhinged. permalink fedilink source parent [+] toad@sh.itjust.works -1 points 4 months ago [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [+] toad@sh.itjust.works -2 points 4 months ago [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] doesit@sh.itjust.works 2 points 4 months ago (1 child) I mean in contemporary times. Not like hindreds or thousands of years ago. i'm not saying nobody says so. But who justifies war, genocide and land acquisition with biblical/islamic/judaic/... arguments. In this day and age. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Tmiwi@lemmy.world -8 points 4 months ago Christians, Muslims, Jews, Hindus, Americans. the list is endless. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] Tmiwi@lemmy.world -14 points 4 months ago (2 children) they do. "The Hour will not be established until you fight with the Jews, and the stone behind which a Jew will be hiding will say: 'O Muslim! There is a Jew hiding behind me, so kill him.' read a book, it might help you understand permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Cethin@lemmy.zip 10 points 4 months ago* (1 child) "Who does...?" "They do..." There's always some vague "they", isn't there? Yes, it is promotes by some Muslims. It's not all, or probably even most, and definitely far from it in western nations. The same way I can say the same about Jews, because the Bible promotes killing in order to take land from people they decide aren't as deserving, this is bullshit reasoning. You can't just group all the followers of a religion into one belief. Hell, even the people in the same church, synagogue, mosque, or whatever house will have differences in opinion. Your logic promotes spreading hate targeting the wrong people. Talk to some people with different opinions sometime. It might help you understand. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Tmiwi@lemmy.world -12 points 4 months ago (3 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] Cethin@lemmy.zip 3 points 4 months ago (1 child) the they wasn't vague... I never said it was all...if you need specifics... Ok, it wasn't vague, but you meant all, but you never said it was all, and you can give specifics. Oh, but I should have known the specifics from context, even though you meant Muslims in general, but you also give just some specifics which doesn't include all of them. Sure, I know how to have a conversation. I also know what you're doing, which isn't a conversation. You want to just call other people evil. btw I'm ex Muslim so I'm well aware of the hatred I was raised in and surrounded by and don't need you minimising my lived experience just because it doesn't fit in with your world view. antisemitism is deeply rooted in islam, it's a fact. Cool story. I also lived with an atheist former Muslim. It isn't minimizing your experience to say that your experience has colored your outlook on life. I think religion in general is a tool for forming in-groups and out-groups, and that's the issue. It isn't Islam, nor Judaism, nor Christianity, nor any other. They all want to kill anyone else, because they know the truth. Islam isn't special. Religion is a tool of the elite to control people. Hate the right thing. It isn't the religious who are the problem, rather it's the elites wherever they can grab power. If you know your history, Christians went around murdering everyone in the middle east for a good chunk of time (and we still are), because their Truth is more truthy than Muslim's Truth, or whatever. Really, it was just a way for the elite to steal land. The Muslim leaders in power do the same thing. They use their religion to tell people to fight for them (yet they never do any of the fighting). The Jews do as well. The Torah, which they all stem from, has several stories promoting "righteous" genocide against other groups, which Israel is using to this day to say that the land belongs to them. You just need a leader in power willing to push those messages. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Tmiwi@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago (1 child) don't tell me what I meant please. also tbh your comment goes all over that place so I'm not sure what the trust of it is? religion is shit and everyone is at fault? yeah I broadly agree permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Cethin@lemmy.zip 1 point 4 months ago (1 child) OK, so I'm both supposed to know what you mean without asking, and I'm supposed to not tell you what I'm interpreting it as. Interesting. You get mad when I ask you and you get mad when I say what I got from it. It doesn't sound at all like you're trying to be racist without being explicit. Lol. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Tmiwi@lemmy.world -1 points 4 months ago no one is mad. except maybe the people who are writing rambling essays because of a comment from a stranger. I hope you enjoyed wasting your time. permalink fedilink source parent [+] toad@sh.itjust.works -1 points 4 months ago (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Cethin@lemmy.zip 1 point 4 months ago* (2 children) My bad, I thought your comment was the one responding to me. Not the one above. Sorry. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] toad@sh.itjust.works 0 points 4 months ago (1 child) You're grand permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Tmiwi@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago (1 child) btw I'm not Arab but good try. thanks for wishing my family dead I guess. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] toad@sh.itjust.works 0 points 4 months ago (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Tmiwi@lemmy.world 1 point 4 months ago I never wished for the death of anyone, especially your loved ones. you're unhinged. permalink fedilink source parent [+] toad@sh.itjust.works -1 points 4 months ago [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [+] toad@sh.itjust.works -2 points 4 months ago [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] doesit@sh.itjust.works 2 points 4 months ago (1 child) I mean in contemporary times. Not like hindreds or thousands of years ago. i'm not saying nobody says so. But who justifies war, genocide and land acquisition with biblical/islamic/judaic/... arguments. In this day and age. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Tmiwi@lemmy.world -8 points 4 months ago Christians, Muslims, Jews, Hindus, Americans. the list is endless. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Cethin@lemmy.zip 10 points 4 months ago* (1 child) "Who does...?" "They do..." There's always some vague "they", isn't there? Yes, it is promotes by some Muslims. It's not all, or probably even most, and definitely far from it in western nations. The same way I can say the same about Jews, because the Bible promotes killing in order to take land from people they decide aren't as deserving, this is bullshit reasoning. You can't just group all the followers of a religion into one belief. Hell, even the people in the same church, synagogue, mosque, or whatever house will have differences in opinion. Your logic promotes spreading hate targeting the wrong people. Talk to some people with different opinions sometime. It might help you understand. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Tmiwi@lemmy.world -12 points 4 months ago (3 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] Cethin@lemmy.zip 3 points 4 months ago (1 child) the they wasn't vague... I never said it was all...if you need specifics... Ok, it wasn't vague, but you meant all, but you never said it was all, and you can give specifics. Oh, but I should have known the specifics from context, even though you meant Muslims in general, but you also give just some specifics which doesn't include all of them. Sure, I know how to have a conversation. I also know what you're doing, which isn't a conversation. You want to just call other people evil. btw I'm ex Muslim so I'm well aware of the hatred I was raised in and surrounded by and don't need you minimising my lived experience just because it doesn't fit in with your world view. antisemitism is deeply rooted in islam, it's a fact. Cool story. I also lived with an atheist former Muslim. It isn't minimizing your experience to say that your experience has colored your outlook on life. I think religion in general is a tool for forming in-groups and out-groups, and that's the issue. It isn't Islam, nor Judaism, nor Christianity, nor any other. They all want to kill anyone else, because they know the truth. Islam isn't special. Religion is a tool of the elite to control people. Hate the right thing. It isn't the religious who are the problem, rather it's the elites wherever they can grab power. If you know your history, Christians went around murdering everyone in the middle east for a good chunk of time (and we still are), because their Truth is more truthy than Muslim's Truth, or whatever. Really, it was just a way for the elite to steal land. The Muslim leaders in power do the same thing. They use their religion to tell people to fight for them (yet they never do any of the fighting). The Jews do as well. The Torah, which they all stem from, has several stories promoting "righteous" genocide against other groups, which Israel is using to this day to say that the land belongs to them. You just need a leader in power willing to push those messages. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Tmiwi@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago (1 child) don't tell me what I meant please. also tbh your comment goes all over that place so I'm not sure what the trust of it is? religion is shit and everyone is at fault? yeah I broadly agree permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Cethin@lemmy.zip 1 point 4 months ago (1 child) OK, so I'm both supposed to know what you mean without asking, and I'm supposed to not tell you what I'm interpreting it as. Interesting. You get mad when I ask you and you get mad when I say what I got from it. It doesn't sound at all like you're trying to be racist without being explicit. Lol. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Tmiwi@lemmy.world -1 points 4 months ago no one is mad. except maybe the people who are writing rambling essays because of a comment from a stranger. I hope you enjoyed wasting your time. permalink fedilink source parent [+] toad@sh.itjust.works -1 points 4 months ago (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Cethin@lemmy.zip 1 point 4 months ago* (2 children) My bad, I thought your comment was the one responding to me. Not the one above. Sorry. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] toad@sh.itjust.works 0 points 4 months ago (1 child) You're grand permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Tmiwi@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago (1 child) btw I'm not Arab but good try. thanks for wishing my family dead I guess. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] toad@sh.itjust.works 0 points 4 months ago (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Tmiwi@lemmy.world 1 point 4 months ago I never wished for the death of anyone, especially your loved ones. you're unhinged. permalink fedilink source parent [+] toad@sh.itjust.works -1 points 4 months ago [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [+] toad@sh.itjust.works -2 points 4 months ago [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[+] Tmiwi@lemmy.world -12 points 4 months ago (3 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] Cethin@lemmy.zip 3 points 4 months ago (1 child) the they wasn't vague... I never said it was all...if you need specifics... Ok, it wasn't vague, but you meant all, but you never said it was all, and you can give specifics. Oh, but I should have known the specifics from context, even though you meant Muslims in general, but you also give just some specifics which doesn't include all of them. Sure, I know how to have a conversation. I also know what you're doing, which isn't a conversation. You want to just call other people evil. btw I'm ex Muslim so I'm well aware of the hatred I was raised in and surrounded by and don't need you minimising my lived experience just because it doesn't fit in with your world view. antisemitism is deeply rooted in islam, it's a fact. Cool story. I also lived with an atheist former Muslim. It isn't minimizing your experience to say that your experience has colored your outlook on life. I think religion in general is a tool for forming in-groups and out-groups, and that's the issue. It isn't Islam, nor Judaism, nor Christianity, nor any other. They all want to kill anyone else, because they know the truth. Islam isn't special. Religion is a tool of the elite to control people. Hate the right thing. It isn't the religious who are the problem, rather it's the elites wherever they can grab power. If you know your history, Christians went around murdering everyone in the middle east for a good chunk of time (and we still are), because their Truth is more truthy than Muslim's Truth, or whatever. Really, it was just a way for the elite to steal land. The Muslim leaders in power do the same thing. They use their religion to tell people to fight for them (yet they never do any of the fighting). The Jews do as well. The Torah, which they all stem from, has several stories promoting "righteous" genocide against other groups, which Israel is using to this day to say that the land belongs to them. You just need a leader in power willing to push those messages. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Tmiwi@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago (1 child) don't tell me what I meant please. also tbh your comment goes all over that place so I'm not sure what the trust of it is? religion is shit and everyone is at fault? yeah I broadly agree permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Cethin@lemmy.zip 1 point 4 months ago (1 child) OK, so I'm both supposed to know what you mean without asking, and I'm supposed to not tell you what I'm interpreting it as. Interesting. You get mad when I ask you and you get mad when I say what I got from it. It doesn't sound at all like you're trying to be racist without being explicit. Lol. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Tmiwi@lemmy.world -1 points 4 months ago no one is mad. except maybe the people who are writing rambling essays because of a comment from a stranger. I hope you enjoyed wasting your time. permalink fedilink source parent [+] toad@sh.itjust.works -1 points 4 months ago (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Cethin@lemmy.zip 1 point 4 months ago* (2 children) My bad, I thought your comment was the one responding to me. Not the one above. Sorry. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] toad@sh.itjust.works 0 points 4 months ago (1 child) You're grand permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Tmiwi@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago (1 child) btw I'm not Arab but good try. thanks for wishing my family dead I guess. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] toad@sh.itjust.works 0 points 4 months ago (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Tmiwi@lemmy.world 1 point 4 months ago I never wished for the death of anyone, especially your loved ones. you're unhinged. permalink fedilink source parent [+] toad@sh.itjust.works -1 points 4 months ago [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [+] toad@sh.itjust.works -2 points 4 months ago [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Cethin@lemmy.zip 3 points 4 months ago (1 child) the they wasn't vague... I never said it was all...if you need specifics... Ok, it wasn't vague, but you meant all, but you never said it was all, and you can give specifics. Oh, but I should have known the specifics from context, even though you meant Muslims in general, but you also give just some specifics which doesn't include all of them. Sure, I know how to have a conversation. I also know what you're doing, which isn't a conversation. You want to just call other people evil. btw I'm ex Muslim so I'm well aware of the hatred I was raised in and surrounded by and don't need you minimising my lived experience just because it doesn't fit in with your world view. antisemitism is deeply rooted in islam, it's a fact. Cool story. I also lived with an atheist former Muslim. It isn't minimizing your experience to say that your experience has colored your outlook on life. I think religion in general is a tool for forming in-groups and out-groups, and that's the issue. It isn't Islam, nor Judaism, nor Christianity, nor any other. They all want to kill anyone else, because they know the truth. Islam isn't special. Religion is a tool of the elite to control people. Hate the right thing. It isn't the religious who are the problem, rather it's the elites wherever they can grab power. If you know your history, Christians went around murdering everyone in the middle east for a good chunk of time (and we still are), because their Truth is more truthy than Muslim's Truth, or whatever. Really, it was just a way for the elite to steal land. The Muslim leaders in power do the same thing. They use their religion to tell people to fight for them (yet they never do any of the fighting). The Jews do as well. The Torah, which they all stem from, has several stories promoting "righteous" genocide against other groups, which Israel is using to this day to say that the land belongs to them. You just need a leader in power willing to push those messages. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Tmiwi@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago (1 child) don't tell me what I meant please. also tbh your comment goes all over that place so I'm not sure what the trust of it is? religion is shit and everyone is at fault? yeah I broadly agree permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Cethin@lemmy.zip 1 point 4 months ago (1 child) OK, so I'm both supposed to know what you mean without asking, and I'm supposed to not tell you what I'm interpreting it as. Interesting. You get mad when I ask you and you get mad when I say what I got from it. It doesn't sound at all like you're trying to be racist without being explicit. Lol. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Tmiwi@lemmy.world -1 points 4 months ago no one is mad. except maybe the people who are writing rambling essays because of a comment from a stranger. I hope you enjoyed wasting your time. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Tmiwi@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago (1 child) don't tell me what I meant please. also tbh your comment goes all over that place so I'm not sure what the trust of it is? religion is shit and everyone is at fault? yeah I broadly agree permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Cethin@lemmy.zip 1 point 4 months ago (1 child) OK, so I'm both supposed to know what you mean without asking, and I'm supposed to not tell you what I'm interpreting it as. Interesting. You get mad when I ask you and you get mad when I say what I got from it. It doesn't sound at all like you're trying to be racist without being explicit. Lol. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Tmiwi@lemmy.world -1 points 4 months ago no one is mad. except maybe the people who are writing rambling essays because of a comment from a stranger. I hope you enjoyed wasting your time. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Cethin@lemmy.zip 1 point 4 months ago (1 child) OK, so I'm both supposed to know what you mean without asking, and I'm supposed to not tell you what I'm interpreting it as. Interesting. You get mad when I ask you and you get mad when I say what I got from it. It doesn't sound at all like you're trying to be racist without being explicit. Lol. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Tmiwi@lemmy.world -1 points 4 months ago no one is mad. except maybe the people who are writing rambling essays because of a comment from a stranger. I hope you enjoyed wasting your time. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Tmiwi@lemmy.world -1 points 4 months ago no one is mad. except maybe the people who are writing rambling essays because of a comment from a stranger. I hope you enjoyed wasting your time. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] toad@sh.itjust.works -1 points 4 months ago (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Cethin@lemmy.zip 1 point 4 months ago* (2 children) My bad, I thought your comment was the one responding to me. Not the one above. Sorry. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] toad@sh.itjust.works 0 points 4 months ago (1 child) You're grand permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Tmiwi@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago (1 child) btw I'm not Arab but good try. thanks for wishing my family dead I guess. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] toad@sh.itjust.works 0 points 4 months ago (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Tmiwi@lemmy.world 1 point 4 months ago I never wished for the death of anyone, especially your loved ones. you're unhinged. permalink fedilink source parent [+] toad@sh.itjust.works -1 points 4 months ago [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Cethin@lemmy.zip 1 point 4 months ago* (2 children) My bad, I thought your comment was the one responding to me. Not the one above. Sorry. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] toad@sh.itjust.works 0 points 4 months ago (1 child) You're grand permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Tmiwi@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago (1 child) btw I'm not Arab but good try. thanks for wishing my family dead I guess. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] toad@sh.itjust.works 0 points 4 months ago (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Tmiwi@lemmy.world 1 point 4 months ago I never wished for the death of anyone, especially your loved ones. you're unhinged. permalink fedilink source parent [+] toad@sh.itjust.works -1 points 4 months ago [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[–] toad@sh.itjust.works 0 points 4 months ago (1 child) You're grand permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Tmiwi@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago (1 child) btw I'm not Arab but good try. thanks for wishing my family dead I guess. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] toad@sh.itjust.works 0 points 4 months ago (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Tmiwi@lemmy.world 1 point 4 months ago I never wished for the death of anyone, especially your loved ones. you're unhinged. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Tmiwi@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago (1 child) btw I'm not Arab but good try. thanks for wishing my family dead I guess. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] toad@sh.itjust.works 0 points 4 months ago (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Tmiwi@lemmy.world 1 point 4 months ago I never wished for the death of anyone, especially your loved ones. you're unhinged. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] toad@sh.itjust.works 0 points 4 months ago (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Tmiwi@lemmy.world 1 point 4 months ago I never wished for the death of anyone, especially your loved ones. you're unhinged. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Tmiwi@lemmy.world 1 point 4 months ago I never wished for the death of anyone, especially your loved ones. you're unhinged. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] doesit@sh.itjust.works 2 points 4 months ago (1 child) I mean in contemporary times. Not like hindreds or thousands of years ago. i'm not saying nobody says so. But who justifies war, genocide and land acquisition with biblical/islamic/judaic/... arguments. In this day and age. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Tmiwi@lemmy.world -8 points 4 months ago Christians, Muslims, Jews, Hindus, Americans. the list is endless. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] Tmiwi@lemmy.world -8 points 4 months ago Christians, Muslims, Jews, Hindus, Americans. the list is endless. permalink fedilink source parent