▲ 212 ▼ Fact. (lemmy.dbzer0.com) submitted 4 months ago by Viking_Hippie@lemmy.dbzer0.com to c/flippanarchy@lemmy.dbzer0.com 13 comments fedilink hide all child comments cross-posted from: https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/65651210
[–] rockSlayer@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 4 months ago (3 children) Inb4 the "but racism existed before capitalism" crowd permalink fedilink source hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] lugal@lemmy.dbzer0.com 13 points 4 months ago (1 child) I don't see any problem here. Racism existed before capitalism to justify slavery and has a new function after the abolition. In fact, before the abolition, it functioned to divide different oppressed groups, as it does today. If anything, the meme says that racism was a precondition for capitalism. If capitalism needs racism, of cause racism must be older, otherwise capitalism could not have developed. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] rockSlayer@lemmy.blahaj.zone 9 points 4 months ago (1 child) I'm not calling the meme a problem. There are people that legitimately hold the position of "racism existed before capitalism, so they have no interplay". Those are the people I'm preempting. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] lugal@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 4 months ago so they have no interplay Ok, this implication wasn't obvious for me and it truly is a stupid take permalink fedilink source parent [–] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.dbzer0.com [S] 7 points 4 months ago I'm gonna go to bed before they arrive. Tell them from me that they suck, please. permalink fedilink source parent [–] PiraHxCx@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 4 months ago* (1 child) What about capitalism doesn't need racism? Non-Europeans played no role in the European workforce of the industrial revolution and it wasn't less of capitalism because of that. Capitalism works pretty well exploiting just its own ethnic group. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] rockSlayer@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 4 months ago It's less about the specific mode of division, and more about pointing out how division serves the ruling class. That's why intersectionality is important. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] lugal@lemmy.dbzer0.com 13 points 4 months ago (1 child) I don't see any problem here. Racism existed before capitalism to justify slavery and has a new function after the abolition. In fact, before the abolition, it functioned to divide different oppressed groups, as it does today. If anything, the meme says that racism was a precondition for capitalism. If capitalism needs racism, of cause racism must be older, otherwise capitalism could not have developed. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] rockSlayer@lemmy.blahaj.zone 9 points 4 months ago (1 child) I'm not calling the meme a problem. There are people that legitimately hold the position of "racism existed before capitalism, so they have no interplay". Those are the people I'm preempting. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] lugal@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 4 months ago so they have no interplay Ok, this implication wasn't obvious for me and it truly is a stupid take permalink fedilink source parent
[–] rockSlayer@lemmy.blahaj.zone 9 points 4 months ago (1 child) I'm not calling the meme a problem. There are people that legitimately hold the position of "racism existed before capitalism, so they have no interplay". Those are the people I'm preempting. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] lugal@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 4 months ago so they have no interplay Ok, this implication wasn't obvious for me and it truly is a stupid take permalink fedilink source parent
[–] lugal@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 4 months ago so they have no interplay Ok, this implication wasn't obvious for me and it truly is a stupid take permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.dbzer0.com [S] 7 points 4 months ago I'm gonna go to bed before they arrive. Tell them from me that they suck, please. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] PiraHxCx@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 4 months ago* (1 child) What about capitalism doesn't need racism? Non-Europeans played no role in the European workforce of the industrial revolution and it wasn't less of capitalism because of that. Capitalism works pretty well exploiting just its own ethnic group. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] rockSlayer@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 4 months ago It's less about the specific mode of division, and more about pointing out how division serves the ruling class. That's why intersectionality is important. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] rockSlayer@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 4 months ago It's less about the specific mode of division, and more about pointing out how division serves the ruling class. That's why intersectionality is important. permalink fedilink source parent