▲ 81 ▼ How many of you are substance free? (sh.itjust.works) submitted 4 months ago* by bridgeenjoyer@sh.itjust.works to c/asklemmy@lemmy.world 136 comments fedilink hide all child comments Ive been thinking of going caffeine and alcohol free for a while. Alcohol wouldnt be an issue but I really love coffee.
[–] nocturne@slrpnk.net 18 points 4 months ago (2 children) Alcohol, cannabis, and methamphetamine free since '95. Nicotine free since '03. Caffeine free since '15. Now if I could kick sugar. permalink fedilink source hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Korhaka@sopuli.xyz 10 points 4 months ago (1 child) Good luck on the angel dust addiction. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] nocturne@slrpnk.net 5 points 4 months ago (1 child) Thanks. I kicked sugary drinks with the caffeine in '15. But still have a hard time with it in general. I will go months with none, then I get an urge for something and before I know it I am Augustus Gloop. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Cethin@lemmy.zip 3 points 4 months ago To be fair, that one is a totally natural urge, and it isn't unhealthy on its own. We crave it because it gives us energy. It's great for a survival instinct. The issue is we have far too easy access to sugar now, where we trivially get an unhealthy amount. It's hard to fight biological instinct. It's like trying to drown yourself. Your body will fight back before you succeed. Luckily our craving for sugar is something that we can attempt to control. permalink fedilink source parent [–] dandelion@lemmy.blahaj.zone -3 points 4 months ago (2 children) sugar isn't really an addictive drug and shouldn't be compared to nicotine, alcohol, meth, etc. Even if food can function as a reward and lead to compulsive behaviors, you can't live without food, and eating food (even sugary foods) doesn't lead to addiction the way we think nicotine does. So, yeah - incorporate healthier diet and all that, but know that as long as you're not eating too much sugar it's actually fine in moderation. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] wesker@lemmy.sdf.org 7 points 4 months ago* (1 child) I mean, what's your point? OP says they struggle with it and want to curb what they see as a problem, that's the bottom line. Sex and porn aren't addictive drugs, you wouldn't walk into a meeting and "um ackschully" it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Pieisawesome@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 4 months ago (2 children) Don’t sex and porn release hormones that can act as drugs? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] wesker@lemmy.sdf.org 7 points 4 months ago* I would believe so, same with food, particularly sugar. permalink fedilink source parent [–] spankinspinach@sh.itjust.works 4 points 4 months ago If I remember from my psych degree, it's technically possible to get addicted to anything that dumps dopamine. Has to do with reward schedules and how much dopamine that reward gives (is the juice worth the squeeze) permalink fedilink source parent [–] nocturne@slrpnk.net 4 points 4 months ago 👍 permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Korhaka@sopuli.xyz 10 points 4 months ago (1 child) Good luck on the angel dust addiction. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] nocturne@slrpnk.net 5 points 4 months ago (1 child) Thanks. I kicked sugary drinks with the caffeine in '15. But still have a hard time with it in general. I will go months with none, then I get an urge for something and before I know it I am Augustus Gloop. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Cethin@lemmy.zip 3 points 4 months ago To be fair, that one is a totally natural urge, and it isn't unhealthy on its own. We crave it because it gives us energy. It's great for a survival instinct. The issue is we have far too easy access to sugar now, where we trivially get an unhealthy amount. It's hard to fight biological instinct. It's like trying to drown yourself. Your body will fight back before you succeed. Luckily our craving for sugar is something that we can attempt to control. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] nocturne@slrpnk.net 5 points 4 months ago (1 child) Thanks. I kicked sugary drinks with the caffeine in '15. But still have a hard time with it in general. I will go months with none, then I get an urge for something and before I know it I am Augustus Gloop. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Cethin@lemmy.zip 3 points 4 months ago To be fair, that one is a totally natural urge, and it isn't unhealthy on its own. We crave it because it gives us energy. It's great for a survival instinct. The issue is we have far too easy access to sugar now, where we trivially get an unhealthy amount. It's hard to fight biological instinct. It's like trying to drown yourself. Your body will fight back before you succeed. Luckily our craving for sugar is something that we can attempt to control. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Cethin@lemmy.zip 3 points 4 months ago To be fair, that one is a totally natural urge, and it isn't unhealthy on its own. We crave it because it gives us energy. It's great for a survival instinct. The issue is we have far too easy access to sugar now, where we trivially get an unhealthy amount. It's hard to fight biological instinct. It's like trying to drown yourself. Your body will fight back before you succeed. Luckily our craving for sugar is something that we can attempt to control. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] dandelion@lemmy.blahaj.zone -3 points 4 months ago (2 children) sugar isn't really an addictive drug and shouldn't be compared to nicotine, alcohol, meth, etc. Even if food can function as a reward and lead to compulsive behaviors, you can't live without food, and eating food (even sugary foods) doesn't lead to addiction the way we think nicotine does. So, yeah - incorporate healthier diet and all that, but know that as long as you're not eating too much sugar it's actually fine in moderation. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] wesker@lemmy.sdf.org 7 points 4 months ago* (1 child) I mean, what's your point? OP says they struggle with it and want to curb what they see as a problem, that's the bottom line. Sex and porn aren't addictive drugs, you wouldn't walk into a meeting and "um ackschully" it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Pieisawesome@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 4 months ago (2 children) Don’t sex and porn release hormones that can act as drugs? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] wesker@lemmy.sdf.org 7 points 4 months ago* I would believe so, same with food, particularly sugar. permalink fedilink source parent [–] spankinspinach@sh.itjust.works 4 points 4 months ago If I remember from my psych degree, it's technically possible to get addicted to anything that dumps dopamine. Has to do with reward schedules and how much dopamine that reward gives (is the juice worth the squeeze) permalink fedilink source parent [–] nocturne@slrpnk.net 4 points 4 months ago 👍 permalink fedilink source parent
[–] wesker@lemmy.sdf.org 7 points 4 months ago* (1 child) I mean, what's your point? OP says they struggle with it and want to curb what they see as a problem, that's the bottom line. Sex and porn aren't addictive drugs, you wouldn't walk into a meeting and "um ackschully" it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Pieisawesome@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 4 months ago (2 children) Don’t sex and porn release hormones that can act as drugs? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] wesker@lemmy.sdf.org 7 points 4 months ago* I would believe so, same with food, particularly sugar. permalink fedilink source parent [–] spankinspinach@sh.itjust.works 4 points 4 months ago If I remember from my psych degree, it's technically possible to get addicted to anything that dumps dopamine. Has to do with reward schedules and how much dopamine that reward gives (is the juice worth the squeeze) permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Pieisawesome@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 4 months ago (2 children) Don’t sex and porn release hormones that can act as drugs? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] wesker@lemmy.sdf.org 7 points 4 months ago* I would believe so, same with food, particularly sugar. permalink fedilink source parent [–] spankinspinach@sh.itjust.works 4 points 4 months ago If I remember from my psych degree, it's technically possible to get addicted to anything that dumps dopamine. Has to do with reward schedules and how much dopamine that reward gives (is the juice worth the squeeze) permalink fedilink source parent
[–] wesker@lemmy.sdf.org 7 points 4 months ago* I would believe so, same with food, particularly sugar. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] spankinspinach@sh.itjust.works 4 points 4 months ago If I remember from my psych degree, it's technically possible to get addicted to anything that dumps dopamine. Has to do with reward schedules and how much dopamine that reward gives (is the juice worth the squeeze) permalink fedilink source parent