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7 years of software updates for the Pixel 8 series (blog.google)
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[–] 14 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Who actually gives a crap about AI in real life?

I am no fan of AI-evangelists promising us the moon in the same vein as crypto-bros, but this is a truly bizarre take. I can tell you, and yes I am just one person, that over the last 3-4 years AI tools have fundamentally altered my work. I work in post-production for video/audio. Commercial, social media, documentary, narrative, you name it. There isn't a stage of my post pipeline now that doesn't integrate AI tools at some point. Adobe Audio Enhance fixes problematic (usually Zoom) audio with a click of a button in a way that used to take me days and countless hours. AI tools are making keying off of even the most mediocre green screen capture trivial (DaVinci Resolve has some wild integration on that front). AI tools are generating 90%+ accurate transcripts in a matter of minutes for me now. The list goes on.

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  • [–] 5 points 2 years ago (3 children)

    Yeah, and how much do you want that on your phone? And how many people do you think want/need that on their phones?

    I can tell you, I'm a software developer and there's currently maybe one product in my workflow that involves ai, and I'm not even sure about that one. Sure, that might change in the future, but not on my phone. Why would it?

    AI is not magic. It has its uses, but the current iterations offer nothing even remotely relevant for the average user to have on their phone.

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  • [–] 6 points 2 years ago* (1 child)

    Yeah, and how much do you want that on your phone? And how many people do you think want/need that on their phones?

    This is a completely different question then the one I responded to.

    AI is not magic

    Not sure why you threw that out there, i never said it was. I am very familiar with what it is and am not mystified by it lol

    but the current iterations offer nothing even remotely relevant for the average user to have on their phone.

    "But the current iteration" is the operative statement here, and I have a feeling you have an overinflated sense of how dominant your mentality is.

    Sure, that might change in the future, but not on my phone. Why would it?

    This is just a lack of imagination, to be blunt. Just because you haven't teased out uses doesn't mean there are none.

    As for your having little need of AI, the developers I work along with regularly use ChatGPT-like systems. Maybe you should consider how it could lessen your workload. Just my 2 cents.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 years ago (1 child)

    This is a completely different question then the one I responded to.

    What do you think a "Pixel 8" is exactly? A phone maybe?

    But the current iteration" is the operative statement here, and I have a feeling you have an overinflated sense of how dominant your mentality is.

    It's not "mentality", it's actually roughly knowing the field and not just throwing words around. LLMs for example are the current iteration. Not chatgpt version XY. And LLMs already kind of hit a wall, there's not much progress expected in the next time. Stable Diffusion and others are also rather stable and won't turn out massive improvements any time soon. We're at the rapidly diminishing returns phase here.

    But now the actual kicker: give me a single "killer feature" for ai that normal people would actually have run on their phone and be willing to spend money on. Siri is nice and all, but it's already running locally, there's no need for a new phone. Photo editing, yeah, nice, but do you buy a phone because of it?

    Again, I'm not saying that ai is "bad", but I see no reason for the hype in the mobile space, especially in the "you need new hardware for that" sense.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Photo editing, yeah, nice, but do you buy a phone because of it?

    People often pick their phones largely on the camera quality, so I have no reason to doubt many would consider this in their purchase decision, yes.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 years ago (1 child)

    Consider it, but not buying a new phone because of it.

    Do you think, someone would pay an extra 50€ just for slightly better editing capabilities all else being equal?

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  • [–] 4 points 2 years ago*

    People pay hundreds more for better/more cameras so yes. I also imagine it the AI integration would not be so singular as just photo editing.

    Photo/video capture is one of the single largest uses of smart phones. People spend a LOT of time editing their images too.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 years ago

    And it won't need to exist locally on the phone anyway. Higher bandwidth cell and wifi signals mean more and more exotic AI processing can be offloaded onto cloud resources.

    It's great when you have an app that works well when not connected to a network, of course. But most phone buyers don't really care.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 years ago*

    One of the biggest problems with AI that I find right now, is it outright will lie to you. I've been getting more and more in depth with it, and the more I do, the more bullshit I'm finding. Early days though.

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