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[–] Cockmaster6000@sh.itjust.works -1 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Being trans is about gender identity. This meme makes no sense

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[–] LostWon@lemmy.ca 15 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Only if you're trying to say they didn't have a gender identity yet as fetuses. That's why it's a meme and obviously a joke. Otherwise it makes an interesting point about how silly it is for cis people to base gender on body parts.

correction: 8 days later, I am editing to state I have since learned biological sex is actually undifferentiated in the first weeks of a pregnancy. This is NOT the same as being intersex, but I think an intersex individual would probably have the best perspective to weigh in on whether the joke in the meme still makes sense, due to overlap in the issues it raises. To my knowledge, I am not intersex, so I'll shut up now.

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[–] Lmaydev@programming.dev 10 points 2 years ago* (1 child)

All cis gendered men are trans would be more correct.

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[+] Cockmaster6000@sh.itjust.works -6 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (3 children)

Cis and trans are mutually exclusive

Edit: why am I getting piled on for this? Cis and trans are literally defined as opposites.

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[–] Syrc@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago*

Yes, but since every male person at birth was actually “a female” at conception, that means people who are fine growing up in a male body are actually trans and the ones who want reassignment are just trying to “change back” and are therefore cis (according to the logic in this meme).

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[–] Lmaydev@programming.dev 4 points 2 years ago*

Because you've missed the joke.

IF life begins at conception every one is biologically female because male organs grow much later.

Therefore anyone who is biologically male (by real life standards) and identifies as male is trans because they are actually biologically female IF life begins at conception.

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[–] wizzwizz4@fosstodon.org 4 points 2 years ago

Queering the cis trans binary!

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[–] WalrusDragonOnABike@kbin.social 5 points 2 years ago

Trans is about how your gender identity relates to their assigned gender. If life begins at conception and you assigned gender at that point, everyone should be assigned female. Anyone who identifies as a man would have a gender that doesn't match their assigned gender and therefore would be trans.

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