Exactly, every court order you give is one they have to ignore, it's one that further delegitimizes the regime. The goal is for the regime to struggle to enact its goals. It desires its people to be high energy, fully committed, and to be seen as essentially legitimate in order to make that happen. If they can't be respected they want to be feared. Hero or villain they're still a major character who gets their way. Deny them that.

You can tell what works by who they attempt to quickly and quietly stop. Lawyers can file lawsuits. Everyone can protest. People can organize their workplace and neighborhood. But also you can just drive 5 under whenever ice is active in an area. You can get their order wrong at a restaurant. Get in the habit of looking for plausibly deniable ways to deny them what they want.

I agree with this. I just don't want to forget that the people these petitions were filed for are probably still locked up and there's no guarantee they're going to get anything resembling justice yet.

I feel like maybe they just have a sort of agnostic approach to these 10 people's actual freedom, which I understand having been on the wrong side of a booking cell door, even local PD will drag their feet all night and release you at 2am for a laugh. And you're trying to say that regardless of whether or not they are outside of a jail, this person has made an effort that they thought would be difficult and found to be otherwise, and is trying to share his apparent success in an attempt to encourage others to act as well. And I agree that the message is perhaps more important than the reality right now, but I also understand jaded "nothing ever happens" mentality online.

I'm stoned and it's midnight, thanks for reading.

Are you seriously arguing that we're supposed to give ICE and this administration the benefit of the doubt? Why on Earth would you imagine the onus is on me to provide evidence? My comment is OBVIOUSLY speculation, I'm not pretending I'm involved, and that's why I have zero interest in even attempting to provide or find any specific evidence, I sincerely doubt there is any. I'm saying I don't trust ICE to follow through. I think that given they are the untrustworthy actor in this whole situation, maybe you should focus your disapproval on them instead of me.

Your (carefully hedged) claim that orders were not ignored and the largest delay is a week is absolutely offensively absurd on its face and makes me extremely dubious that you're even arguing in good faith, and that's why this will be my last reply to you, but in parting I will at least offer this small token of evidence to help other readers understand how full of shit you are.

The chief federal judge in Minnesota compiled a list of almost 100 different orders that had been violated in January alone. In one month. And he also correctly makes the point that it's substantially understated. Fuck right off with your ICE apologism.