▲ 30 ▼ Claude is an Electron App because we’ve lost native (tonsky.me) submitted 5 months ago by codeinabox@programming.dev to c/programming@programming.dev 15 comments fedilink hide all child comments API-wise, native apps lost to web apps a long time ago. Native APIs are terrible to use, and OS vendors use everything in their power to make you not want to develop native apps for their platform.
[+] ultimate_worrier@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (3 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] codeinabox@programming.dev [S] 6 points 5 months ago (2 children) I think you're misconstruing the author's argument, at no point does the author imply that Claude knows best, or that Electron apps are better. Their closing argument is certainly not an endorsement for Electron or AI slop. Don’t get me wrong: writing this brings me no joy. I don’t think web is a solution either. I just remember good times when native did a better-than-average job, and we were all better for using it, and it saddens me that these times have passed. I just don’t think that kidding ourselves that the only problem with software is Electron and it all will be butterflies and unicorns once we rewrite Slack in SwiftUI is not productive. The real problem is a lack of care. And the slop; you can build it with any stack. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [+] ultimate_worrier@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 5 months ago [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] GammaGames@beehaw.org 3 points 5 months ago (1 child) Do you actually expect people to read past the headline? All the way to the end too, preposterous! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] ultimate_worrier@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 5 months ago (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] GammaGames@beehaw.org 1 point 5 months ago Ah apologies then permalink fedilink source parent [–] tetrislife@leminal.space 3 points 5 months ago They also bought the Bun JS company, didn't they? Maybe they actually can improve the spp a bit by replacing Node with Bun. permalink fedilink source parent [–] tetrislife@leminal.space 0 points 5 months ago Also, which native UIs do people like coding up? Most UI toolkits have JS bindings, don't they? So only HTML/CSS is the bad fit? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] codeinabox@programming.dev [S] 6 points 5 months ago (2 children) I think you're misconstruing the author's argument, at no point does the author imply that Claude knows best, or that Electron apps are better. Their closing argument is certainly not an endorsement for Electron or AI slop. Don’t get me wrong: writing this brings me no joy. I don’t think web is a solution either. I just remember good times when native did a better-than-average job, and we were all better for using it, and it saddens me that these times have passed. I just don’t think that kidding ourselves that the only problem with software is Electron and it all will be butterflies and unicorns once we rewrite Slack in SwiftUI is not productive. The real problem is a lack of care. And the slop; you can build it with any stack. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [+] ultimate_worrier@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 5 months ago [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] GammaGames@beehaw.org 3 points 5 months ago (1 child) Do you actually expect people to read past the headline? All the way to the end too, preposterous! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] ultimate_worrier@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 5 months ago (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] GammaGames@beehaw.org 1 point 5 months ago Ah apologies then permalink fedilink source parent
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[–] GammaGames@beehaw.org 3 points 5 months ago (1 child) Do you actually expect people to read past the headline? All the way to the end too, preposterous! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] ultimate_worrier@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 5 months ago (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] GammaGames@beehaw.org 1 point 5 months ago Ah apologies then permalink fedilink source parent
[+] ultimate_worrier@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 5 months ago (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] GammaGames@beehaw.org 1 point 5 months ago Ah apologies then permalink fedilink source parent
[–] tetrislife@leminal.space 3 points 5 months ago They also bought the Bun JS company, didn't they? Maybe they actually can improve the spp a bit by replacing Node with Bun. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] tetrislife@leminal.space 0 points 5 months ago Also, which native UIs do people like coding up? Most UI toolkits have JS bindings, don't they? So only HTML/CSS is the bad fit? permalink fedilink source parent