โฒ 363 โผ Wow wow wow... European Gas prices just surged 50% after Qatar said LNG infrastructure is under threat (feddit.uk) submitted 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) by NomNom@feddit.uk to c/europe@feddit.org 122 comments fedilink hide all child comments QatarEnergy, the world's largest producer of natural gas, just got bombed.
[โ] Jankatarch@lemmy.world 53 points 5 months ago (2 children) Economy is imploding because people don't want to pick between switching to green energy and not murdering brown people. permalink fedilink source hideshow 4 child comments replies: [โ] Gladaed@feddit.org 2 points 5 months ago (1 child) Not really the issue at hand, but sure. This is less about getting to kill brown people than about Iranians. And their government lacks public support and is not just willing to do mass killings in the streets and executions to maintain their grip on power but is actually doing that too. The civilian death toll is probably going to be much lower than in the January protests. But that does not mean that a military intervention is right or resolves the participants from doing nation building afterward. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [โ] Tinidril@midwest.social 1 point 5 months ago (1 child) Given the US record on nation building, I think we might just want to pass on that obligation. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [โ] Gladaed@feddit.org 1 point 5 months ago I agree, but one must mention this duty. A war against a regime is not over until a stable, new government is established. Unless you want to subjugate. permalink fedilink source parent [โ] MousePotatoDoesStuff@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago (1 child) Wait. Why is that a choice? Wouldn't switching to green energy mean less fossil fuel related wars, meaning we can have BOTH? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [โ] Jankatarch@lemmy.world 5 points 5 months ago No no. People want MORE fossil fuel related wars. But without having to give up on fossil fuels while those wars happen. permalink fedilink source parent
[โ] Gladaed@feddit.org 2 points 5 months ago (1 child) Not really the issue at hand, but sure. This is less about getting to kill brown people than about Iranians. And their government lacks public support and is not just willing to do mass killings in the streets and executions to maintain their grip on power but is actually doing that too. The civilian death toll is probably going to be much lower than in the January protests. But that does not mean that a military intervention is right or resolves the participants from doing nation building afterward. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [โ] Tinidril@midwest.social 1 point 5 months ago (1 child) Given the US record on nation building, I think we might just want to pass on that obligation. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [โ] Gladaed@feddit.org 1 point 5 months ago I agree, but one must mention this duty. A war against a regime is not over until a stable, new government is established. Unless you want to subjugate. permalink fedilink source parent
[โ] Tinidril@midwest.social 1 point 5 months ago (1 child) Given the US record on nation building, I think we might just want to pass on that obligation. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [โ] Gladaed@feddit.org 1 point 5 months ago I agree, but one must mention this duty. A war against a regime is not over until a stable, new government is established. Unless you want to subjugate. permalink fedilink source parent
[โ] Gladaed@feddit.org 1 point 5 months ago I agree, but one must mention this duty. A war against a regime is not over until a stable, new government is established. Unless you want to subjugate. permalink fedilink source parent
[โ] MousePotatoDoesStuff@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago (1 child) Wait. Why is that a choice? Wouldn't switching to green energy mean less fossil fuel related wars, meaning we can have BOTH? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [โ] Jankatarch@lemmy.world 5 points 5 months ago No no. People want MORE fossil fuel related wars. But without having to give up on fossil fuels while those wars happen. permalink fedilink source parent
[โ] Jankatarch@lemmy.world 5 points 5 months ago No no. People want MORE fossil fuel related wars. But without having to give up on fossil fuels while those wars happen. permalink fedilink source parent
