โฒ 363 โผ Wow wow wow... European Gas prices just surged 50% after Qatar said LNG infrastructure is under threat (feddit.uk) submitted 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) by NomNom@feddit.uk to c/europe@feddit.org 122 comments fedilink hide all child comments QatarEnergy, the world's largest producer of natural gas, just got bombed.
[โ] gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.de 99 points 5 months ago (1 child) If only we had some way of generating energy independent of oil and fossil fuels. permalink fedilink source hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Tar_alcaran@sh.itjust.works -27 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (5 children) Unfortunately, we don't, because those take a long time to build and we keep putting it off. And the other option requires batteries that take a long time to make, and we only just started on that. Edit: why am I getting downvoted for complaining about how pretty much every western government isnt doing enough to transition to other power sources? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 10 child comments replies: [โ] CheeseNoodle@lemmy.world 23 points 5 months ago 'Nuclear takes too long to build' has been an argument against nuclear for several times longer than it takes to build even the most stringently safe nuclear power plant... its depressing. permalink fedilink source parent [โ] theacharnian@lemmy.ca 14 points 5 months ago Nah. All it takes is investment and commitment to treating electricity like a utility beyond the profit imperative. Look at what China is doing with sodium-ion batteries. permalink fedilink source parent [โ] French75@slrpnk.net 8 points 5 months ago We've had hydroelectric, wind, and nuclear energy for a long time. permalink fedilink source parent [โ] kaprap@leminal.space 3 points 5 months ago (1 child) What do you mean you don't? Has everything I heard in Cuba, China and Africa been a lie? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [โ] Tar_alcaran@sh.itjust.works 2 points 5 months ago China is building a load of nuclear plants, it's working very well for them and moving very quickly. They're also building numerous solar farms and coal plants because they need whatever they can get. Many places in Africa are doing great on Solar power, but they have requirements orders of magnitude lower than most western countries. I don't know much about Cuba. permalink fedilink source parent [โ] chux@feddit.org 2 points 5 months ago* A more modern and interconnected grid would do a lot already and greatly reduce the demand for batteries. There are many things one can do. But you are right in the sense that they are largely not done. That doesnt mean there exists no way though. We know how to do it but we dont. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] Tar_alcaran@sh.itjust.works -27 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (5 children) Unfortunately, we don't, because those take a long time to build and we keep putting it off. And the other option requires batteries that take a long time to make, and we only just started on that. Edit: why am I getting downvoted for complaining about how pretty much every western government isnt doing enough to transition to other power sources? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 10 child comments replies: [โ] CheeseNoodle@lemmy.world 23 points 5 months ago 'Nuclear takes too long to build' has been an argument against nuclear for several times longer than it takes to build even the most stringently safe nuclear power plant... its depressing. permalink fedilink source parent [โ] theacharnian@lemmy.ca 14 points 5 months ago Nah. All it takes is investment and commitment to treating electricity like a utility beyond the profit imperative. Look at what China is doing with sodium-ion batteries. permalink fedilink source parent [โ] French75@slrpnk.net 8 points 5 months ago We've had hydroelectric, wind, and nuclear energy for a long time. permalink fedilink source parent [โ] kaprap@leminal.space 3 points 5 months ago (1 child) What do you mean you don't? Has everything I heard in Cuba, China and Africa been a lie? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [โ] Tar_alcaran@sh.itjust.works 2 points 5 months ago China is building a load of nuclear plants, it's working very well for them and moving very quickly. They're also building numerous solar farms and coal plants because they need whatever they can get. Many places in Africa are doing great on Solar power, but they have requirements orders of magnitude lower than most western countries. I don't know much about Cuba. permalink fedilink source parent [โ] chux@feddit.org 2 points 5 months ago* A more modern and interconnected grid would do a lot already and greatly reduce the demand for batteries. There are many things one can do. But you are right in the sense that they are largely not done. That doesnt mean there exists no way though. We know how to do it but we dont. permalink fedilink source parent
[โ] CheeseNoodle@lemmy.world 23 points 5 months ago 'Nuclear takes too long to build' has been an argument against nuclear for several times longer than it takes to build even the most stringently safe nuclear power plant... its depressing. permalink fedilink source parent
[โ] theacharnian@lemmy.ca 14 points 5 months ago Nah. All it takes is investment and commitment to treating electricity like a utility beyond the profit imperative. Look at what China is doing with sodium-ion batteries. permalink fedilink source parent
[โ] French75@slrpnk.net 8 points 5 months ago We've had hydroelectric, wind, and nuclear energy for a long time. permalink fedilink source parent
[โ] kaprap@leminal.space 3 points 5 months ago (1 child) What do you mean you don't? Has everything I heard in Cuba, China and Africa been a lie? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [โ] Tar_alcaran@sh.itjust.works 2 points 5 months ago China is building a load of nuclear plants, it's working very well for them and moving very quickly. They're also building numerous solar farms and coal plants because they need whatever they can get. Many places in Africa are doing great on Solar power, but they have requirements orders of magnitude lower than most western countries. I don't know much about Cuba. permalink fedilink source parent
[โ] Tar_alcaran@sh.itjust.works 2 points 5 months ago China is building a load of nuclear plants, it's working very well for them and moving very quickly. They're also building numerous solar farms and coal plants because they need whatever they can get. Many places in Africa are doing great on Solar power, but they have requirements orders of magnitude lower than most western countries. I don't know much about Cuba. permalink fedilink source parent
[โ] chux@feddit.org 2 points 5 months ago* A more modern and interconnected grid would do a lot already and greatly reduce the demand for batteries. There are many things one can do. But you are right in the sense that they are largely not done. That doesnt mean there exists no way though. We know how to do it but we dont. permalink fedilink source parent
