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[–] chasingtheflow@lemmy.world 9 points 5 months ago (3 children) Wow that is terribly ad ridden. permalink fedilink source hideshow 6 child comments replies: [+] atropa@piefed.social 3 points 5 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] chasingtheflow@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago (1 child) Apparently I touched a nerve with some. But I was just using the built in browser for voyager on iOS. But I also have nextdns and Mullvad in-use which normally provides fairly good coverage for me but evidently not on this site. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] atropa@piefed.social 1 point 5 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] M137@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago (1 child) It never stops being so fucking weird that people choose to not use ad-blockers, and then complain about ads. Do you also not wear seat belts and then complain about neck pain after fender benders, or eat raw meat and then complain about getting sick? It's just as dumb. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] porcoesphino@mander.xyz -2 points 5 months ago (3 children) It's weird to me that people complain about how long it takes to get to work, why don't they just aggressively speed to get there earlier? Sites need money to run and many rely on ads. Blocking them is an asshole move (that I admittedly do) but so is dumping them all over a page. It would be nice to have some sort of pay for what you use alternative but until then, bitching isn't half as weird and obnoxious as whatever you're doing in this comment permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] artyom@piefed.social 4 points 5 months ago (1 child) Blocking them is an asshole move An asshole move is designing a site that bogs down your computer so that they can try and sell you garbage while simultaneously collecting and feeding data about the sites you visit to a corporate surveillance network in order to more effectively sell you more garbage. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] porcoesphino@mander.xyz -1 points 5 months ago* (1 child) An asshole move is consuming other people's work without giving them something in return and then bitching at anyone that accurately points out you're a leech But yes, the current ads based system is mighty broken. I did touch on that, so did the comment before me, and I'm surprised an expansion felt needed permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Sims@lemmy.ml 1 point 5 months ago (1 child) Then they should lock their 'property' up behind logins and shit. Nobody owes anything to some random person that share on the internet. It is not my job or responsibility to support some rich Unt's ideology and belief that people should horde 'property' and force others to pay them, instead of open source sharing. Ads are 'enshittification' - the hallmark of capitalist/psycho attitudes. Oh, and please remember that Ads are pure manipulation - not a 'service' ! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] porcoesphino@mander.xyz 0 points 5 months ago Never said ads are good nor that adblockers shouldn't be used Most of your arguments hold for stealing from a baby "they should protect it better, I don't owe them shit" This one "why shit allover someone saying a website has more ads than usual" comment I made seems to have found a lot of selfish assholes that can't not force their views on other people and tell them how they should live their lives permalink fedilink source parent [–] pishadoot@sh.itjust.works 1 point 5 months ago (1 child) Until ads are responsible and don't carry risks of injecting malware and trackers, I will block them without prejudice. Even back in the day they would try to hijack your browser, redirect you to some random page, destroy ability of your back button to take you out, and throw up a ton of popups. I don't think blocking them is an asshole move until ads are served responsibly, without threatening my security or privacy. When, and if, that day ever arrives I will stop blocking them because I understand that most sites subsist solely off ad revenue, at least in this current Internet model we live with. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] porcoesphino@mander.xyz 1 point 5 months ago Just a reminder that this thread, and my comments, are in the context of someone saying the OP had linked a particularly bad website for ads, and this person being attacked If your position is what you've actually written here then I don't think there is a real disagreement but I am surprised by the effort. There's only a disagreement if you think it's reasonable to call out someone for making a comment about the ads on a website being excessive and telling that person they don't get that privilege because they don't use the internet your way. Everything that follows is just a retaliatory mirror on the issues with "your way" (yeah it's another poster not you) permalink fedilink source parent [–] Sims@lemmy.ml 1 point 5 months ago 'Ads' are pure manipulation and is not welcome on any page, or any where - at all. Site owners will have to find another way to make money, than to deliberately scam their readers on behalf of some sh*tty Corp. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Innerworld@lemmy.world [S] 2 points 5 months ago Get an ad-blocker permalink fedilink source parent
[+] atropa@piefed.social 3 points 5 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] chasingtheflow@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago (1 child) Apparently I touched a nerve with some. But I was just using the built in browser for voyager on iOS. But I also have nextdns and Mullvad in-use which normally provides fairly good coverage for me but evidently not on this site. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] atropa@piefed.social 1 point 5 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[–] chasingtheflow@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago (1 child) Apparently I touched a nerve with some. But I was just using the built in browser for voyager on iOS. But I also have nextdns and Mullvad in-use which normally provides fairly good coverage for me but evidently not on this site. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] atropa@piefed.social 1 point 5 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[+] atropa@piefed.social 1 point 5 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[–] M137@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago (1 child) It never stops being so fucking weird that people choose to not use ad-blockers, and then complain about ads. Do you also not wear seat belts and then complain about neck pain after fender benders, or eat raw meat and then complain about getting sick? It's just as dumb. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] porcoesphino@mander.xyz -2 points 5 months ago (3 children) It's weird to me that people complain about how long it takes to get to work, why don't they just aggressively speed to get there earlier? Sites need money to run and many rely on ads. Blocking them is an asshole move (that I admittedly do) but so is dumping them all over a page. It would be nice to have some sort of pay for what you use alternative but until then, bitching isn't half as weird and obnoxious as whatever you're doing in this comment permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] artyom@piefed.social 4 points 5 months ago (1 child) Blocking them is an asshole move An asshole move is designing a site that bogs down your computer so that they can try and sell you garbage while simultaneously collecting and feeding data about the sites you visit to a corporate surveillance network in order to more effectively sell you more garbage. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] porcoesphino@mander.xyz -1 points 5 months ago* (1 child) An asshole move is consuming other people's work without giving them something in return and then bitching at anyone that accurately points out you're a leech But yes, the current ads based system is mighty broken. I did touch on that, so did the comment before me, and I'm surprised an expansion felt needed permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Sims@lemmy.ml 1 point 5 months ago (1 child) Then they should lock their 'property' up behind logins and shit. Nobody owes anything to some random person that share on the internet. It is not my job or responsibility to support some rich Unt's ideology and belief that people should horde 'property' and force others to pay them, instead of open source sharing. Ads are 'enshittification' - the hallmark of capitalist/psycho attitudes. Oh, and please remember that Ads are pure manipulation - not a 'service' ! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] porcoesphino@mander.xyz 0 points 5 months ago Never said ads are good nor that adblockers shouldn't be used Most of your arguments hold for stealing from a baby "they should protect it better, I don't owe them shit" This one "why shit allover someone saying a website has more ads than usual" comment I made seems to have found a lot of selfish assholes that can't not force their views on other people and tell them how they should live their lives permalink fedilink source parent [–] pishadoot@sh.itjust.works 1 point 5 months ago (1 child) Until ads are responsible and don't carry risks of injecting malware and trackers, I will block them without prejudice. Even back in the day they would try to hijack your browser, redirect you to some random page, destroy ability of your back button to take you out, and throw up a ton of popups. I don't think blocking them is an asshole move until ads are served responsibly, without threatening my security or privacy. When, and if, that day ever arrives I will stop blocking them because I understand that most sites subsist solely off ad revenue, at least in this current Internet model we live with. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] porcoesphino@mander.xyz 1 point 5 months ago Just a reminder that this thread, and my comments, are in the context of someone saying the OP had linked a particularly bad website for ads, and this person being attacked If your position is what you've actually written here then I don't think there is a real disagreement but I am surprised by the effort. There's only a disagreement if you think it's reasonable to call out someone for making a comment about the ads on a website being excessive and telling that person they don't get that privilege because they don't use the internet your way. Everything that follows is just a retaliatory mirror on the issues with "your way" (yeah it's another poster not you) permalink fedilink source parent [–] Sims@lemmy.ml 1 point 5 months ago 'Ads' are pure manipulation and is not welcome on any page, or any where - at all. Site owners will have to find another way to make money, than to deliberately scam their readers on behalf of some sh*tty Corp. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] porcoesphino@mander.xyz -2 points 5 months ago (3 children) It's weird to me that people complain about how long it takes to get to work, why don't they just aggressively speed to get there earlier? Sites need money to run and many rely on ads. Blocking them is an asshole move (that I admittedly do) but so is dumping them all over a page. It would be nice to have some sort of pay for what you use alternative but until then, bitching isn't half as weird and obnoxious as whatever you're doing in this comment permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] artyom@piefed.social 4 points 5 months ago (1 child) Blocking them is an asshole move An asshole move is designing a site that bogs down your computer so that they can try and sell you garbage while simultaneously collecting and feeding data about the sites you visit to a corporate surveillance network in order to more effectively sell you more garbage. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] porcoesphino@mander.xyz -1 points 5 months ago* (1 child) An asshole move is consuming other people's work without giving them something in return and then bitching at anyone that accurately points out you're a leech But yes, the current ads based system is mighty broken. I did touch on that, so did the comment before me, and I'm surprised an expansion felt needed permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Sims@lemmy.ml 1 point 5 months ago (1 child) Then they should lock their 'property' up behind logins and shit. Nobody owes anything to some random person that share on the internet. It is not my job or responsibility to support some rich Unt's ideology and belief that people should horde 'property' and force others to pay them, instead of open source sharing. Ads are 'enshittification' - the hallmark of capitalist/psycho attitudes. Oh, and please remember that Ads are pure manipulation - not a 'service' ! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] porcoesphino@mander.xyz 0 points 5 months ago Never said ads are good nor that adblockers shouldn't be used Most of your arguments hold for stealing from a baby "they should protect it better, I don't owe them shit" This one "why shit allover someone saying a website has more ads than usual" comment I made seems to have found a lot of selfish assholes that can't not force their views on other people and tell them how they should live their lives permalink fedilink source parent [–] pishadoot@sh.itjust.works 1 point 5 months ago (1 child) Until ads are responsible and don't carry risks of injecting malware and trackers, I will block them without prejudice. Even back in the day they would try to hijack your browser, redirect you to some random page, destroy ability of your back button to take you out, and throw up a ton of popups. I don't think blocking them is an asshole move until ads are served responsibly, without threatening my security or privacy. When, and if, that day ever arrives I will stop blocking them because I understand that most sites subsist solely off ad revenue, at least in this current Internet model we live with. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] porcoesphino@mander.xyz 1 point 5 months ago Just a reminder that this thread, and my comments, are in the context of someone saying the OP had linked a particularly bad website for ads, and this person being attacked If your position is what you've actually written here then I don't think there is a real disagreement but I am surprised by the effort. There's only a disagreement if you think it's reasonable to call out someone for making a comment about the ads on a website being excessive and telling that person they don't get that privilege because they don't use the internet your way. Everything that follows is just a retaliatory mirror on the issues with "your way" (yeah it's another poster not you) permalink fedilink source parent [–] Sims@lemmy.ml 1 point 5 months ago 'Ads' are pure manipulation and is not welcome on any page, or any where - at all. Site owners will have to find another way to make money, than to deliberately scam their readers on behalf of some sh*tty Corp. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] artyom@piefed.social 4 points 5 months ago (1 child) Blocking them is an asshole move An asshole move is designing a site that bogs down your computer so that they can try and sell you garbage while simultaneously collecting and feeding data about the sites you visit to a corporate surveillance network in order to more effectively sell you more garbage. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] porcoesphino@mander.xyz -1 points 5 months ago* (1 child) An asshole move is consuming other people's work without giving them something in return and then bitching at anyone that accurately points out you're a leech But yes, the current ads based system is mighty broken. I did touch on that, so did the comment before me, and I'm surprised an expansion felt needed permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Sims@lemmy.ml 1 point 5 months ago (1 child) Then they should lock their 'property' up behind logins and shit. Nobody owes anything to some random person that share on the internet. It is not my job or responsibility to support some rich Unt's ideology and belief that people should horde 'property' and force others to pay them, instead of open source sharing. Ads are 'enshittification' - the hallmark of capitalist/psycho attitudes. Oh, and please remember that Ads are pure manipulation - not a 'service' ! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] porcoesphino@mander.xyz 0 points 5 months ago Never said ads are good nor that adblockers shouldn't be used Most of your arguments hold for stealing from a baby "they should protect it better, I don't owe them shit" This one "why shit allover someone saying a website has more ads than usual" comment I made seems to have found a lot of selfish assholes that can't not force their views on other people and tell them how they should live their lives permalink fedilink source parent
[–] porcoesphino@mander.xyz -1 points 5 months ago* (1 child) An asshole move is consuming other people's work without giving them something in return and then bitching at anyone that accurately points out you're a leech But yes, the current ads based system is mighty broken. I did touch on that, so did the comment before me, and I'm surprised an expansion felt needed permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Sims@lemmy.ml 1 point 5 months ago (1 child) Then they should lock their 'property' up behind logins and shit. Nobody owes anything to some random person that share on the internet. It is not my job or responsibility to support some rich Unt's ideology and belief that people should horde 'property' and force others to pay them, instead of open source sharing. Ads are 'enshittification' - the hallmark of capitalist/psycho attitudes. Oh, and please remember that Ads are pure manipulation - not a 'service' ! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] porcoesphino@mander.xyz 0 points 5 months ago Never said ads are good nor that adblockers shouldn't be used Most of your arguments hold for stealing from a baby "they should protect it better, I don't owe them shit" This one "why shit allover someone saying a website has more ads than usual" comment I made seems to have found a lot of selfish assholes that can't not force their views on other people and tell them how they should live their lives permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Sims@lemmy.ml 1 point 5 months ago (1 child) Then they should lock their 'property' up behind logins and shit. Nobody owes anything to some random person that share on the internet. It is not my job or responsibility to support some rich Unt's ideology and belief that people should horde 'property' and force others to pay them, instead of open source sharing. Ads are 'enshittification' - the hallmark of capitalist/psycho attitudes. Oh, and please remember that Ads are pure manipulation - not a 'service' ! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] porcoesphino@mander.xyz 0 points 5 months ago Never said ads are good nor that adblockers shouldn't be used Most of your arguments hold for stealing from a baby "they should protect it better, I don't owe them shit" This one "why shit allover someone saying a website has more ads than usual" comment I made seems to have found a lot of selfish assholes that can't not force their views on other people and tell them how they should live their lives permalink fedilink source parent
[–] porcoesphino@mander.xyz 0 points 5 months ago Never said ads are good nor that adblockers shouldn't be used Most of your arguments hold for stealing from a baby "they should protect it better, I don't owe them shit" This one "why shit allover someone saying a website has more ads than usual" comment I made seems to have found a lot of selfish assholes that can't not force their views on other people and tell them how they should live their lives permalink fedilink source parent
[–] pishadoot@sh.itjust.works 1 point 5 months ago (1 child) Until ads are responsible and don't carry risks of injecting malware and trackers, I will block them without prejudice. Even back in the day they would try to hijack your browser, redirect you to some random page, destroy ability of your back button to take you out, and throw up a ton of popups. I don't think blocking them is an asshole move until ads are served responsibly, without threatening my security or privacy. When, and if, that day ever arrives I will stop blocking them because I understand that most sites subsist solely off ad revenue, at least in this current Internet model we live with. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] porcoesphino@mander.xyz 1 point 5 months ago Just a reminder that this thread, and my comments, are in the context of someone saying the OP had linked a particularly bad website for ads, and this person being attacked If your position is what you've actually written here then I don't think there is a real disagreement but I am surprised by the effort. There's only a disagreement if you think it's reasonable to call out someone for making a comment about the ads on a website being excessive and telling that person they don't get that privilege because they don't use the internet your way. Everything that follows is just a retaliatory mirror on the issues with "your way" (yeah it's another poster not you) permalink fedilink source parent
[–] porcoesphino@mander.xyz 1 point 5 months ago Just a reminder that this thread, and my comments, are in the context of someone saying the OP had linked a particularly bad website for ads, and this person being attacked If your position is what you've actually written here then I don't think there is a real disagreement but I am surprised by the effort. There's only a disagreement if you think it's reasonable to call out someone for making a comment about the ads on a website being excessive and telling that person they don't get that privilege because they don't use the internet your way. Everything that follows is just a retaliatory mirror on the issues with "your way" (yeah it's another poster not you) permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Sims@lemmy.ml 1 point 5 months ago 'Ads' are pure manipulation and is not welcome on any page, or any where - at all. Site owners will have to find another way to make money, than to deliberately scam their readers on behalf of some sh*tty Corp. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Innerworld@lemmy.world [S] 2 points 5 months ago Get an ad-blocker permalink fedilink source parent