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[–] some_kind_of_guy@lemmy.world 13 points 5 months ago (2 children) Assuming you're not a tankie, I would guess it's your instance, which is the main one where all the tankies hang out lol permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] WereHacker@lemmy.ml 4 points 5 months ago (2 children) That's the thing, how would I know if I am tankie, if I don't have a clear definition. If it is defined by wether or not I am oppossed to military moving into Budapest 70 years ago. I am probably not a tankie, but I say probably, because everyone writing about seem so biased I find it difficult to see the truth of it. But my moral compass tells me it is always wrong to use military against civilians. Always. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] ClamDrinker@lemmy.world 9 points 5 months ago* (1 child) At the end of the day the deeds define the word, not the other way around. Not everyone will use the word correctly or appropriately. It's why only you yourself can truly categorize as such, but at that point you must come to terms with what that means, positively or negatively. The bias thing is a real problem, but also sometimes not. It all depends on the context. Some people with unreasonable opinions will absolutely waste your time by never accepting difficult realities and talking around it, so identifying a mindset that's immune to self reflection can be useful. But similarly if a label is all that's needed to dismiss an opinion also is not very reasonable. But it's how some people operate. So sometimes not standing behind a label can be more fruitful as not to entice those presuppositions. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] WereHacker@lemmy.ml 2 points 5 months ago There is another problem. People use slurs to derail the discussions. Calling people "libs" or "tankies" left, right and center removes focus from whatever is discussed and make people crawl into their foxholes. It is an easy way to devalue people's opinions or simply derail discussions. I think I will keep on questioning when people use the word "tankie", because once the word is on the table, the discussion has already been derailed one way or another. And maybe one day it will lead to better discourse. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Valmond@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 5 months ago Are you in some way pro Putin, Stalin, Lenin, Mao, Kim ? Then you might be a tankie. If you think they are/were despicable mass-murderous dictators then you're not. permalink fedilink source parent [–] lps2@lemmy.ml 3 points 5 months ago* Which is funny because this was just the main instance when I (and many others) learned about Lemmy. I've been called a tankie because of my instance when I'm pretty sure tankies would call me MAGA as I'm somewhere between a leftist, a liberal, and libertarian permalink fedilink source parent
[–] WereHacker@lemmy.ml 4 points 5 months ago (2 children) That's the thing, how would I know if I am tankie, if I don't have a clear definition. If it is defined by wether or not I am oppossed to military moving into Budapest 70 years ago. I am probably not a tankie, but I say probably, because everyone writing about seem so biased I find it difficult to see the truth of it. But my moral compass tells me it is always wrong to use military against civilians. Always. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] ClamDrinker@lemmy.world 9 points 5 months ago* (1 child) At the end of the day the deeds define the word, not the other way around. Not everyone will use the word correctly or appropriately. It's why only you yourself can truly categorize as such, but at that point you must come to terms with what that means, positively or negatively. The bias thing is a real problem, but also sometimes not. It all depends on the context. Some people with unreasonable opinions will absolutely waste your time by never accepting difficult realities and talking around it, so identifying a mindset that's immune to self reflection can be useful. But similarly if a label is all that's needed to dismiss an opinion also is not very reasonable. But it's how some people operate. So sometimes not standing behind a label can be more fruitful as not to entice those presuppositions. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] WereHacker@lemmy.ml 2 points 5 months ago There is another problem. People use slurs to derail the discussions. Calling people "libs" or "tankies" left, right and center removes focus from whatever is discussed and make people crawl into their foxholes. It is an easy way to devalue people's opinions or simply derail discussions. I think I will keep on questioning when people use the word "tankie", because once the word is on the table, the discussion has already been derailed one way or another. And maybe one day it will lead to better discourse. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Valmond@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 5 months ago Are you in some way pro Putin, Stalin, Lenin, Mao, Kim ? Then you might be a tankie. If you think they are/were despicable mass-murderous dictators then you're not. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ClamDrinker@lemmy.world 9 points 5 months ago* (1 child) At the end of the day the deeds define the word, not the other way around. Not everyone will use the word correctly or appropriately. It's why only you yourself can truly categorize as such, but at that point you must come to terms with what that means, positively or negatively. The bias thing is a real problem, but also sometimes not. It all depends on the context. Some people with unreasonable opinions will absolutely waste your time by never accepting difficult realities and talking around it, so identifying a mindset that's immune to self reflection can be useful. But similarly if a label is all that's needed to dismiss an opinion also is not very reasonable. But it's how some people operate. So sometimes not standing behind a label can be more fruitful as not to entice those presuppositions. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] WereHacker@lemmy.ml 2 points 5 months ago There is another problem. People use slurs to derail the discussions. Calling people "libs" or "tankies" left, right and center removes focus from whatever is discussed and make people crawl into their foxholes. It is an easy way to devalue people's opinions or simply derail discussions. I think I will keep on questioning when people use the word "tankie", because once the word is on the table, the discussion has already been derailed one way or another. And maybe one day it will lead to better discourse. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] WereHacker@lemmy.ml 2 points 5 months ago There is another problem. People use slurs to derail the discussions. Calling people "libs" or "tankies" left, right and center removes focus from whatever is discussed and make people crawl into their foxholes. It is an easy way to devalue people's opinions or simply derail discussions. I think I will keep on questioning when people use the word "tankie", because once the word is on the table, the discussion has already been derailed one way or another. And maybe one day it will lead to better discourse. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Valmond@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 5 months ago Are you in some way pro Putin, Stalin, Lenin, Mao, Kim ? Then you might be a tankie. If you think they are/were despicable mass-murderous dictators then you're not. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] lps2@lemmy.ml 3 points 5 months ago* Which is funny because this was just the main instance when I (and many others) learned about Lemmy. I've been called a tankie because of my instance when I'm pretty sure tankies would call me MAGA as I'm somewhere between a leftist, a liberal, and libertarian permalink fedilink source parent
