During the campaign, it was kind of hard to picture the specifics of how Trump might pull such a thing off. Alas, it’s getting less hypothetical by the week.

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[–] [S] 28 points 5 months ago (2 children)

On Trumps Draft National Emergency Order to take over US elections - (the National Emergencies Act (NEA) and the International Emergency Economic Powers Act (IEEPA) to claim authority over voting procedures.) let's just say, any attempt to federalize elections would be considered unconstitutional and illegal.

States have control over how they are done as written in the constitution. Also, if SCROTUS allows it, the "We" are no longer a Constitutional Republic.

If Trump is allowed to move forward with this obvious unconstitutional grab for power, allowed by the Dems on a plater with little public outrage, a failed supreme court intervention resulting in no push-back by any checks and balances, then the US Constitution is a lot weaker than americans would have you believe.

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  • [–] 13 points 5 months ago (1 child)

    SCOTUS failing to stop federalization of elections is literally the last possible Rubicon.

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  • [–] 6 points 5 months ago

    Exactly. Everyone was afraid of what would happen when Trump was elected because of what he would do. That is what he would do. Pulling that off means the experiment is over, America will never come back from it.

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  • [–] 8 points 5 months ago (1 child)

    The constitution is what gives them all their authority. If they don't hold it up, the government has abdicated.

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  • [–] 12 points 5 months ago (1 child)

    Organized force and the subsequent compliance of the masses is what gives authority. The rest is theatrics to give the illusion of legitimacy and popular support. This works quite well...until it doesn't.

    The question becomes: What will the police and military do, when push comes to shove? What will citizens do, and what will the response be?

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  • [–] 4 points 5 months ago (1 child)

    The police will protect wealth. The military will follow orders if they are made plausibly legal. Which is why a third term really doesn't hold up. There is no plausible way that is legal.

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  • [–] 3 points 5 months ago (1 child)

    You are assuming the military will intervene to defend the US constitution? They might be a bit busy, by the looks of it..

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  • [–] 2 points 5 months ago (1 child)

    Depends entirely on their ability to sell it. I know Trump has been purging anyone not loyal to him over the country from leadership, but will the ones left follow illegal orders? No one knows of course, but I have to believe a lot of them are going to be hesitant or unmotivated and confused.

    But yeah, Trump doesn't need the military when he has ice, looks like. Though I'll tell you, as a former soldier and person with eyes, I'd give the people much better chances against ice than the army.

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  • [–] 2 points 5 months ago*

    Yeah the conduct and “skill” of the ice paramilitary morons is one thing a resistance has going for it. The opposing conduct of the Minnesota National guard was another bright light.

    It’s still a bit hard to believe that maga can shoot the moon and go full coup, but if it does I expect messy confusion and mass refugee situations as a result. Is gonna suck. (More than it already does).

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