▲ 471 ▼ How capitalism made concerts be a bourgeois entertainment only (i.imgur.com) submitted 3 years ago by CyberGhost@lemmygrad.ml to c/memes@lemmygrad.ml 110 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[+] PP_BOY_@lemmy.world -9 points 3 years ago (2 children) They always have a choice lmao permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] michaelfone@lemmy.world 10 points 3 years ago (3 children) The large venues usually have an exclusivity deal with a ticket seller like Ticketmaster or AXS. So if they want to play massive stadiums, no they don’t have a choice but to use Ticketmaster. It’s on the venue, not the performer. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] ElBarto@lzrprt.sbs 3 points 3 years ago So what you're saying is, we need to build out own arena with hookers and gambling? permalink fedilink source parent [–] RivenRise@lemmy.world -4 points 3 years ago (2 children) Taylor is big enough where she could have made a better/different deal. I'm sure slightly smaller venues would bend over backwards to have her, this was purely a greed thing. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] michaelfone@lemmy.world 7 points 3 years ago (1 child) That’s not really how the corporate world works. There’s billion dollar contracts involved that are much bigger than one artists tour. No matter how big they are. It’s use Ticketmaster, or you can’t use our venue. Full stop. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] PP_BOY_@lemmy.world 1 point 3 years ago You're making a statement without addressing the heart of the discussion. Artists like Taylor Swift are much bigger than Ticketmaster. If she actually used her platform and her voice to go against TM, she could effect a real change. But she (and so many other big artists) choose not to permalink fedilink source parent [–] fidodo@lemmy.world 1 point 3 years ago How does it benefit Taylor Swift to have ticket master take a bigger cut? The best thing for her to do would be to sell the tickets directly through her site, not working with ticket master permalink fedilink source parent [+] PP_BOY_@lemmy.world -6 points 3 years ago (1 child) Then, like, don't play massive stadiums then? If Taylor Swift (don't care about her but it's kinda the main point of this thread) actually listened to her fans and decided postpone and restructure her tour around smaller independent venues and sell non-transferable tickets directly to fans she could've started a real change in the live music community. But she didn't. Because, ya know, it wouldn't make as much money. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] fidodo@lemmy.world 1 point 3 years ago (1 child) But then only a tiny fraction of her fans would be able to see her at all. Even if she did round the clock shows she wouldn't compete with the density those mega venues provide. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] PP_BOY_@lemmy.world 0 points 3 years ago As opposed to only a tiny fraction of her (rich) fans? Doesn't really seem like an argument to me permalink fedilink source parent [–] Warfarin@lemmy.world -2 points 3 years ago (1 child) So what would you do under the regime? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] toxicbubble@lemmy.world -1 points 3 years ago not sell my soul to corporations, taylor swift doesnt need more money permalink fedilink source parent
[–] michaelfone@lemmy.world 10 points 3 years ago (3 children) The large venues usually have an exclusivity deal with a ticket seller like Ticketmaster or AXS. So if they want to play massive stadiums, no they don’t have a choice but to use Ticketmaster. It’s on the venue, not the performer. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] ElBarto@lzrprt.sbs 3 points 3 years ago So what you're saying is, we need to build out own arena with hookers and gambling? permalink fedilink source parent [–] RivenRise@lemmy.world -4 points 3 years ago (2 children) Taylor is big enough where she could have made a better/different deal. I'm sure slightly smaller venues would bend over backwards to have her, this was purely a greed thing. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] michaelfone@lemmy.world 7 points 3 years ago (1 child) That’s not really how the corporate world works. There’s billion dollar contracts involved that are much bigger than one artists tour. No matter how big they are. It’s use Ticketmaster, or you can’t use our venue. Full stop. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] PP_BOY_@lemmy.world 1 point 3 years ago You're making a statement without addressing the heart of the discussion. Artists like Taylor Swift are much bigger than Ticketmaster. If she actually used her platform and her voice to go against TM, she could effect a real change. But she (and so many other big artists) choose not to permalink fedilink source parent [–] fidodo@lemmy.world 1 point 3 years ago How does it benefit Taylor Swift to have ticket master take a bigger cut? The best thing for her to do would be to sell the tickets directly through her site, not working with ticket master permalink fedilink source parent [+] PP_BOY_@lemmy.world -6 points 3 years ago (1 child) Then, like, don't play massive stadiums then? If Taylor Swift (don't care about her but it's kinda the main point of this thread) actually listened to her fans and decided postpone and restructure her tour around smaller independent venues and sell non-transferable tickets directly to fans she could've started a real change in the live music community. But she didn't. Because, ya know, it wouldn't make as much money. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] fidodo@lemmy.world 1 point 3 years ago (1 child) But then only a tiny fraction of her fans would be able to see her at all. Even if she did round the clock shows she wouldn't compete with the density those mega venues provide. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] PP_BOY_@lemmy.world 0 points 3 years ago As opposed to only a tiny fraction of her (rich) fans? Doesn't really seem like an argument to me permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ElBarto@lzrprt.sbs 3 points 3 years ago So what you're saying is, we need to build out own arena with hookers and gambling? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] RivenRise@lemmy.world -4 points 3 years ago (2 children) Taylor is big enough where she could have made a better/different deal. I'm sure slightly smaller venues would bend over backwards to have her, this was purely a greed thing. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] michaelfone@lemmy.world 7 points 3 years ago (1 child) That’s not really how the corporate world works. There’s billion dollar contracts involved that are much bigger than one artists tour. No matter how big they are. It’s use Ticketmaster, or you can’t use our venue. Full stop. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] PP_BOY_@lemmy.world 1 point 3 years ago You're making a statement without addressing the heart of the discussion. Artists like Taylor Swift are much bigger than Ticketmaster. If she actually used her platform and her voice to go against TM, she could effect a real change. But she (and so many other big artists) choose not to permalink fedilink source parent [–] fidodo@lemmy.world 1 point 3 years ago How does it benefit Taylor Swift to have ticket master take a bigger cut? The best thing for her to do would be to sell the tickets directly through her site, not working with ticket master permalink fedilink source parent
[–] michaelfone@lemmy.world 7 points 3 years ago (1 child) That’s not really how the corporate world works. There’s billion dollar contracts involved that are much bigger than one artists tour. No matter how big they are. It’s use Ticketmaster, or you can’t use our venue. Full stop. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] PP_BOY_@lemmy.world 1 point 3 years ago You're making a statement without addressing the heart of the discussion. Artists like Taylor Swift are much bigger than Ticketmaster. If she actually used her platform and her voice to go against TM, she could effect a real change. But she (and so many other big artists) choose not to permalink fedilink source parent
[–] PP_BOY_@lemmy.world 1 point 3 years ago You're making a statement without addressing the heart of the discussion. Artists like Taylor Swift are much bigger than Ticketmaster. If she actually used her platform and her voice to go against TM, she could effect a real change. But she (and so many other big artists) choose not to permalink fedilink source parent
[–] fidodo@lemmy.world 1 point 3 years ago How does it benefit Taylor Swift to have ticket master take a bigger cut? The best thing for her to do would be to sell the tickets directly through her site, not working with ticket master permalink fedilink source parent
[+] PP_BOY_@lemmy.world -6 points 3 years ago (1 child) Then, like, don't play massive stadiums then? If Taylor Swift (don't care about her but it's kinda the main point of this thread) actually listened to her fans and decided postpone and restructure her tour around smaller independent venues and sell non-transferable tickets directly to fans she could've started a real change in the live music community. But she didn't. Because, ya know, it wouldn't make as much money. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] fidodo@lemmy.world 1 point 3 years ago (1 child) But then only a tiny fraction of her fans would be able to see her at all. Even if she did round the clock shows she wouldn't compete with the density those mega venues provide. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] PP_BOY_@lemmy.world 0 points 3 years ago As opposed to only a tiny fraction of her (rich) fans? Doesn't really seem like an argument to me permalink fedilink source parent
[–] fidodo@lemmy.world 1 point 3 years ago (1 child) But then only a tiny fraction of her fans would be able to see her at all. Even if she did round the clock shows she wouldn't compete with the density those mega venues provide. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] PP_BOY_@lemmy.world 0 points 3 years ago As opposed to only a tiny fraction of her (rich) fans? Doesn't really seem like an argument to me permalink fedilink source parent
[–] PP_BOY_@lemmy.world 0 points 3 years ago As opposed to only a tiny fraction of her (rich) fans? Doesn't really seem like an argument to me permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Warfarin@lemmy.world -2 points 3 years ago (1 child) So what would you do under the regime? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] toxicbubble@lemmy.world -1 points 3 years ago not sell my soul to corporations, taylor swift doesnt need more money permalink fedilink source parent
[–] toxicbubble@lemmy.world -1 points 3 years ago not sell my soul to corporations, taylor swift doesnt need more money permalink fedilink source parent
