▲ 280 ▼ Food firms urge Europe not to ban calling non-meat products ‘sausages’ (www.theguardian.com) submitted 6 months ago by schizoidman@lemmy.zip to c/europe@feddit.org 116 comments fedilink hide all child comments More than a dozen food companies have urged the European Commission not to ban the use of words such as “sausage” and “burger” for non-meat products.
[–] wieson@feddit.org 75 points 6 months ago (5 children) Listen, I'm not a vegan, but I find this names that are bent around the bush so annoying. Yeah, I get it , it's not literally milk. But calling it "almond milk" is waaay smoother than "almond drink" or "almond concoction" or whatever. Same with Malzbier. permalink fedilink source hideshow 10 child comments replies: [–] tresspass@lemmy.world 43 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 child) The definition of milk literally includes plant milks. Milk has been used to describe these beverages for as long as they have existed. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] wieson@feddit.org 8 points 6 months ago (2 children) I agree, but that's not what the marketing law in Germany says. Not long ago, it was changed by conservatives to only include real cow's milk. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] tresspass@lemmy.world 18 points 6 months ago (2 children) What a bunch of snowflakes. Imagine that being the biggest problem in your life. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Scrollone@feddit.it 2 points 6 months ago They just want the sweet sweet money from farmers permalink fedilink source parent [–] gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.de 1 point 6 months ago it doesn't have to be the biggest problem in your life to take it seriously permalink fedilink source parent [–] ragas@lemmy.ml 2 points 6 months ago What makes it even stupider is that everyone still calls it soy- or whatever-milk. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Jajcus@sh.itjust.works 13 points 6 months ago (1 child) I have seen coconut milk sold as 'coconut drink', even though it is not used as drink. That is stupid. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] xep@discuss.online 4 points 6 months ago (2 children) In the case of coconut there's both the milk and the water, and coconut drink is likely the water. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Jajcus@sh.itjust.works 3 points 6 months ago (1 child) It was the milk, though. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] xep@discuss.online 4 points 6 months ago So much for my hypothesis. permalink fedilink source parent [–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 2 points 6 months ago i argue calling it coconut drink is stupid, because in the specific case of coconuts you should specify milk or water. permalink fedilink source parent [–] SkavarSharraddas@gehirneimer.de 6 points 6 months ago But calling it "almond milk" is waaay smoother than "almond drink" or "almond concoction" By having to give it a weird name those products and the sustainability argument behind it get associated with weirdness, and are less appealing to people who might otherwise consider trying them. permalink fedilink source parent [–] GMac@feddit.org 6 points 6 months ago "Creamy nut juice" just didn't do very well in the test marketing permalink fedilink source parent [–] gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.de -3 points 6 months ago (1 child) The problem i have is just that i walk into a store, buy some cheese for my cheese toast, then later at home discover it's not "cheese" but some disgusting mixture of plant oils and flavour agents that makes me want to vomit and throw up. The problem is not vegan products existing, but them deceiving and tricking the ordinary person about what they are with no clear labeling. It simply has to be explicit that it is not what a normal person thinks when they read "cheese", but some other experimental food instead. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Meshuggah333@piefed.world 3 points 6 months ago (1 child) That's BS and you know it is, stop lying and you'll feel less hollow inside. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.de 0 points 6 months ago that's not true. you're claiming to know me better than i know myself. what hybris permalink fedilink source parent
[–] tresspass@lemmy.world 43 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 child) The definition of milk literally includes plant milks. Milk has been used to describe these beverages for as long as they have existed. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] wieson@feddit.org 8 points 6 months ago (2 children) I agree, but that's not what the marketing law in Germany says. Not long ago, it was changed by conservatives to only include real cow's milk. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] tresspass@lemmy.world 18 points 6 months ago (2 children) What a bunch of snowflakes. Imagine that being the biggest problem in your life. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Scrollone@feddit.it 2 points 6 months ago They just want the sweet sweet money from farmers permalink fedilink source parent [–] gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.de 1 point 6 months ago it doesn't have to be the biggest problem in your life to take it seriously permalink fedilink source parent [–] ragas@lemmy.ml 2 points 6 months ago What makes it even stupider is that everyone still calls it soy- or whatever-milk. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] wieson@feddit.org 8 points 6 months ago (2 children) I agree, but that's not what the marketing law in Germany says. Not long ago, it was changed by conservatives to only include real cow's milk. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] tresspass@lemmy.world 18 points 6 months ago (2 children) What a bunch of snowflakes. Imagine that being the biggest problem in your life. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Scrollone@feddit.it 2 points 6 months ago They just want the sweet sweet money from farmers permalink fedilink source parent [–] gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.de 1 point 6 months ago it doesn't have to be the biggest problem in your life to take it seriously permalink fedilink source parent [–] ragas@lemmy.ml 2 points 6 months ago What makes it even stupider is that everyone still calls it soy- or whatever-milk. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] tresspass@lemmy.world 18 points 6 months ago (2 children) What a bunch of snowflakes. Imagine that being the biggest problem in your life. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Scrollone@feddit.it 2 points 6 months ago They just want the sweet sweet money from farmers permalink fedilink source parent [–] gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.de 1 point 6 months ago it doesn't have to be the biggest problem in your life to take it seriously permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Scrollone@feddit.it 2 points 6 months ago They just want the sweet sweet money from farmers permalink fedilink source parent
[–] gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.de 1 point 6 months ago it doesn't have to be the biggest problem in your life to take it seriously permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ragas@lemmy.ml 2 points 6 months ago What makes it even stupider is that everyone still calls it soy- or whatever-milk. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Jajcus@sh.itjust.works 13 points 6 months ago (1 child) I have seen coconut milk sold as 'coconut drink', even though it is not used as drink. That is stupid. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] xep@discuss.online 4 points 6 months ago (2 children) In the case of coconut there's both the milk and the water, and coconut drink is likely the water. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Jajcus@sh.itjust.works 3 points 6 months ago (1 child) It was the milk, though. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] xep@discuss.online 4 points 6 months ago So much for my hypothesis. permalink fedilink source parent [–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 2 points 6 months ago i argue calling it coconut drink is stupid, because in the specific case of coconuts you should specify milk or water. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] xep@discuss.online 4 points 6 months ago (2 children) In the case of coconut there's both the milk and the water, and coconut drink is likely the water. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Jajcus@sh.itjust.works 3 points 6 months ago (1 child) It was the milk, though. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] xep@discuss.online 4 points 6 months ago So much for my hypothesis. permalink fedilink source parent [–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 2 points 6 months ago i argue calling it coconut drink is stupid, because in the specific case of coconuts you should specify milk or water. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Jajcus@sh.itjust.works 3 points 6 months ago (1 child) It was the milk, though. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] xep@discuss.online 4 points 6 months ago So much for my hypothesis. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] xep@discuss.online 4 points 6 months ago So much for my hypothesis. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 2 points 6 months ago i argue calling it coconut drink is stupid, because in the specific case of coconuts you should specify milk or water. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] SkavarSharraddas@gehirneimer.de 6 points 6 months ago But calling it "almond milk" is waaay smoother than "almond drink" or "almond concoction" By having to give it a weird name those products and the sustainability argument behind it get associated with weirdness, and are less appealing to people who might otherwise consider trying them. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] GMac@feddit.org 6 points 6 months ago "Creamy nut juice" just didn't do very well in the test marketing permalink fedilink source parent
[–] gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.de -3 points 6 months ago (1 child) The problem i have is just that i walk into a store, buy some cheese for my cheese toast, then later at home discover it's not "cheese" but some disgusting mixture of plant oils and flavour agents that makes me want to vomit and throw up. The problem is not vegan products existing, but them deceiving and tricking the ordinary person about what they are with no clear labeling. It simply has to be explicit that it is not what a normal person thinks when they read "cheese", but some other experimental food instead. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Meshuggah333@piefed.world 3 points 6 months ago (1 child) That's BS and you know it is, stop lying and you'll feel less hollow inside. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.de 0 points 6 months ago that's not true. you're claiming to know me better than i know myself. what hybris permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Meshuggah333@piefed.world 3 points 6 months ago (1 child) That's BS and you know it is, stop lying and you'll feel less hollow inside. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.de 0 points 6 months ago that's not true. you're claiming to know me better than i know myself. what hybris permalink fedilink source parent
[–] gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.de 0 points 6 months ago that's not true. you're claiming to know me better than i know myself. what hybris permalink fedilink source parent