▲ 299 ▼ The Actual Gavin Newsom Is Much Worse Than You Think (www.commondreams.org) submitted 6 months ago by return2ozma@lemmy.world to c/politics@lemmy.world 141 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[–] goferking0@lemmy.sdf.org 9 points 6 months ago (1 child) all I'm pointing out is that the conservatives are winning because they are willing to line up behind complete garbage Expect that is also the logic dems/dnc have used that got us to this point. you have to vote for Kerry or else we still have Bush vote for Hillary she's the only one who is qualified to beat the rnc - when running against Obama vote for Hillary she's not trump - 2016 primary voters vote for Biden he's the only one who can beat Trump, we can't let Bernie have a shot - 2020 vote for Kamala, what do you want trump again?? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] ejhal@lemmy.world -1 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (2 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] goferking0@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 6 months ago (1 child) No you are one of many saying vote for the dems no matter the terrible candidate while we've had nothing but failures from them, and constant capitulations to republicans. Especially when newsom is a republican just running as a dem like so many others in the party. Just because the republicans get instant loyalty does not mean any one owes a party votes. There's no point in voting for the dems when either way it ends up with the same outcome permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] ejhal@lemmy.world -1 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] goferking0@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 6 months ago (1 child) I'm pointing out is that the conservatives are winning because they are willing to line up behind complete garbage. If the progressives want to make real change, they have to be willing to rally, and that will likely mean rallying behind a non ideal candidate, and likely rallying with those that we feel are amoral. we need the progressives to line up behind the right leaning dems It literally is but sure say it's not permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] ejhal@lemmy.world -1 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] goferking0@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 6 months ago (1 child) Because that's the only dems there are? If it wasn't you're meaning you should really edit the comment to not make it read that way permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] ejhal@lemmy.world 0 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] vala@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 6 months ago Woooosh permalink fedilink source parent
[+] ejhal@lemmy.world -1 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (2 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] goferking0@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 6 months ago (1 child) No you are one of many saying vote for the dems no matter the terrible candidate while we've had nothing but failures from them, and constant capitulations to republicans. Especially when newsom is a republican just running as a dem like so many others in the party. Just because the republicans get instant loyalty does not mean any one owes a party votes. There's no point in voting for the dems when either way it ends up with the same outcome permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] ejhal@lemmy.world -1 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] goferking0@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 6 months ago (1 child) I'm pointing out is that the conservatives are winning because they are willing to line up behind complete garbage. If the progressives want to make real change, they have to be willing to rally, and that will likely mean rallying behind a non ideal candidate, and likely rallying with those that we feel are amoral. we need the progressives to line up behind the right leaning dems It literally is but sure say it's not permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] ejhal@lemmy.world -1 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] goferking0@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 6 months ago (1 child) Because that's the only dems there are? If it wasn't you're meaning you should really edit the comment to not make it read that way permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] ejhal@lemmy.world 0 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] vala@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 6 months ago Woooosh permalink fedilink source parent
[–] goferking0@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 6 months ago (1 child) No you are one of many saying vote for the dems no matter the terrible candidate while we've had nothing but failures from them, and constant capitulations to republicans. Especially when newsom is a republican just running as a dem like so many others in the party. Just because the republicans get instant loyalty does not mean any one owes a party votes. There's no point in voting for the dems when either way it ends up with the same outcome permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] ejhal@lemmy.world -1 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] goferking0@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 6 months ago (1 child) I'm pointing out is that the conservatives are winning because they are willing to line up behind complete garbage. If the progressives want to make real change, they have to be willing to rally, and that will likely mean rallying behind a non ideal candidate, and likely rallying with those that we feel are amoral. we need the progressives to line up behind the right leaning dems It literally is but sure say it's not permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] ejhal@lemmy.world -1 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] goferking0@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 6 months ago (1 child) Because that's the only dems there are? If it wasn't you're meaning you should really edit the comment to not make it read that way permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] ejhal@lemmy.world 0 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[+] ejhal@lemmy.world -1 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] goferking0@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 6 months ago (1 child) I'm pointing out is that the conservatives are winning because they are willing to line up behind complete garbage. If the progressives want to make real change, they have to be willing to rally, and that will likely mean rallying behind a non ideal candidate, and likely rallying with those that we feel are amoral. we need the progressives to line up behind the right leaning dems It literally is but sure say it's not permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] ejhal@lemmy.world -1 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] goferking0@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 6 months ago (1 child) Because that's the only dems there are? If it wasn't you're meaning you should really edit the comment to not make it read that way permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] ejhal@lemmy.world 0 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[–] goferking0@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 6 months ago (1 child) I'm pointing out is that the conservatives are winning because they are willing to line up behind complete garbage. If the progressives want to make real change, they have to be willing to rally, and that will likely mean rallying behind a non ideal candidate, and likely rallying with those that we feel are amoral. we need the progressives to line up behind the right leaning dems It literally is but sure say it's not permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] ejhal@lemmy.world -1 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] goferking0@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 6 months ago (1 child) Because that's the only dems there are? If it wasn't you're meaning you should really edit the comment to not make it read that way permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] ejhal@lemmy.world 0 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[+] ejhal@lemmy.world -1 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] goferking0@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 6 months ago (1 child) Because that's the only dems there are? If it wasn't you're meaning you should really edit the comment to not make it read that way permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] ejhal@lemmy.world 0 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[–] goferking0@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 6 months ago (1 child) Because that's the only dems there are? If it wasn't you're meaning you should really edit the comment to not make it read that way permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] ejhal@lemmy.world 0 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
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