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No One, Including Our Furry Friends, Will Be Safer in Ring's Surveillance Nightmare (www.eff.org)
submitted 5 months ago by to c/technology@lemmy.world
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[–] 4 points 5 months ago (1 child)

That's just going to grow adoption.

People are buying Ring cameras/AI surveillance because they feel unsafe and are using these cameras to feel safer. If cameras start to get damaged in a specific neighborhood, residents are likely going to see it as a coordinated attack and invest in more cameras, including cameras to watch the other cameras.

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  • [–] 6 points 5 months ago (2 children)

    A better option might be a leafleting campaign.

    It would need to bypass the "I've nothing to hide" effect. E.g. "Does your friend have an ex they don't want to know where they are? Facial recognition would easily put them on your doorstep. Would you like a visit from them?"

    Leaning on the ICE issues right now would also work in some areas.

    If someone mocked up a few variants for different demographics, that could actually help.

    Also, does anyone know an easy layman alternative to ring, that is more ethical?

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  • [–] 4 points 5 months ago (1 child)

    Yeah, but you got to be able to word it right.

    Does your friend have an ex they don't want to know where they are?

    As I recall, Ring doesn't provide camera footage to everyone on demand, just law enforcement. I can easily see Ring advertising back saying they only provide data to law enforcement to help prosecute criminals or willingly shared by Ring owners.

    Leaning on the ICE issues right now would also work in some areas.

    Some areas, yes. However, that could end up implying that the camera system is being used to capture criminals in general.

    It is a better idea than vandalism, but it requires thinking though to make sure that Amazon doesn't get a quick win.

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  • [–] 3 points 5 months ago (1 child)

    Fully agreed that it needs to be done right. I'm definitely not the best person to try and write it.

    It also needs to be area specific. A predominantly republican area would need a different message to a predominantly black community.

    Has Amazon ever actually said it wouldn't sell the results of face tracking to data brokers? I can easily see it happening. It's a lot of tasty data to them.

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  • [–] 2 points 5 months ago (1 child)

    I don't think they've said anything yet, but I don't know if the tech is there for identifying random people.

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  • [–] 5 points 5 months ago

    Simple: “do you trust Amazon to not give away private pictures of you getting home late at night or leaving early in the morning? What happens when Amazon thinks that you’ve committed a crime you know you haven’t? Your own devices will be used against you, your friends, and your family. It isn’t if, but when.”

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