▲ 206 ▼ I Started Programming When I Was 7. I'm 50 Now and the Thing I Loved Has Changed (www.jamesdrandall.com) submitted 5 months ago by codeinabox@programming.dev to c/programming@programming.dev 80 comments fedilink hide all child comments cross-posted from: https://lemmy.bestiver.se/post/917810 Comments
[–] rimu@piefed.social 2 points 5 months ago (1 child) Notice the heavy use of the em-dash throughout that post? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] codeinabox@programming.dev [S] 9 points 5 months ago (4 children) There is much debate about whether the use em-dash is a reliable signal for AI generated content. It would be more effective to compare this post with the author's posts before gen AI, and see if there has been a change in writing style. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] Mac@mander.xyz 5 points 5 months ago (2 children) I toned down mu em-dash usage because i don't want people to think it's AI :( permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] MagicShel@lemmy.zip 6 points 5 months ago I tuned my usage up once I realized it is universal punctuation. I used to be unfamiliar with it and agonize over which punctuation was best for a given sentence. Can't decide between a comma, semi-colon, comma clause, parenthetical, or what-not — just use an emdash and don't fucking worry about it. I'm pretty sure I haven't been accused of being an LLM. Despite my lazy command of the emdash and comfortability with multisyllabic and archaic words, I think LLMs come across as insufferable bores and I don't think I do that — not to that degree, anyway. permalink fedilink source parent [–] queerlilhayseed@piefed.blahaj.zone 4 points 5 months ago If it makes you feel any better, they'll probably use your posts as training data in the future and as a result, future LLMs will be (a lil bit) less likely to use em-dashes. permalink fedilink source parent [–] paraphrand@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago (1 child) Aww you’re no fun. Stop with the nuance. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] codeinabox@programming.dev [S] 1 point 5 months ago My nuanced reply was in response to the nuances of the parent comment. I thought we shared articles to discuss their content, not the grammar. permalink fedilink source parent [–] rimu@piefed.social 0 points 5 months ago (1 child) That is not the only sign in that blog post, just the most obvious one. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] queerlilhayseed@piefed.blahaj.zone 3 points 5 months ago (1 child) Please dish if you feel so inclined. I thought it felt very "blogger who has written a lot of blog posts" but I didn't get any AI smell. I've known for a while that one day the day would come when I wouldn't be able to pick out the AI artifacts, and I'd join the throngs that chase the will o' wisps through the dead internet. Maybe this is it for me. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] rimu@piefed.social -1 points 5 months ago Copy and paste it into an AI detector. Especially the bit about the abstraction tower. permalink fedilink source parent [+] ThomasWilliams@lemmy.world -7 points 5 months ago (3 children) There's no debate, no one real uses em dash. Where is the em dash key on the keyboard? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] codeinabox@programming.dev [S] 6 points 5 months ago There are plenty of humans using em dash, how do you think large language models learnt to use them in the first place? NPR even did an episode on it called Inside the unofficial movement to save the em dash — from A.I. permalink fedilink source parent [–] totally_human_emdash_user@piefed.blahaj.zone 5 points 5 months ago It turns out that modern software supports something called "Copy and Paste" that makes it easy to insert an em-dash whenever—and wherever—you want. permalink fedilink source parent [–] sping@lemmy.sdf.org 4 points 5 months ago Compose minus minus for me. I use it frequently. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] codeinabox@programming.dev [S] 9 points 5 months ago (4 children) There is much debate about whether the use em-dash is a reliable signal for AI generated content. It would be more effective to compare this post with the author's posts before gen AI, and see if there has been a change in writing style. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] Mac@mander.xyz 5 points 5 months ago (2 children) I toned down mu em-dash usage because i don't want people to think it's AI :( permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] MagicShel@lemmy.zip 6 points 5 months ago I tuned my usage up once I realized it is universal punctuation. I used to be unfamiliar with it and agonize over which punctuation was best for a given sentence. Can't decide between a comma, semi-colon, comma clause, parenthetical, or what-not — just use an emdash and don't fucking worry about it. I'm pretty sure I haven't been accused of being an LLM. Despite my lazy command of the emdash and comfortability with multisyllabic and archaic words, I think LLMs come across as insufferable bores and I don't think I do that — not to that degree, anyway. permalink fedilink source parent [–] queerlilhayseed@piefed.blahaj.zone 4 points 5 months ago If it makes you feel any better, they'll probably use your posts as training data in the future and as a result, future LLMs will be (a lil bit) less likely to use em-dashes. permalink fedilink source parent [–] paraphrand@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago (1 child) Aww you’re no fun. Stop with the nuance. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] codeinabox@programming.dev [S] 1 point 5 months ago My nuanced reply was in response to the nuances of the parent comment. I thought we shared articles to discuss their content, not the grammar. permalink fedilink source parent [–] rimu@piefed.social 0 points 5 months ago (1 child) That is not the only sign in that blog post, just the most obvious one. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] queerlilhayseed@piefed.blahaj.zone 3 points 5 months ago (1 child) Please dish if you feel so inclined. I thought it felt very "blogger who has written a lot of blog posts" but I didn't get any AI smell. I've known for a while that one day the day would come when I wouldn't be able to pick out the AI artifacts, and I'd join the throngs that chase the will o' wisps through the dead internet. Maybe this is it for me. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] rimu@piefed.social -1 points 5 months ago Copy and paste it into an AI detector. Especially the bit about the abstraction tower. permalink fedilink source parent [+] ThomasWilliams@lemmy.world -7 points 5 months ago (3 children) There's no debate, no one real uses em dash. Where is the em dash key on the keyboard? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] codeinabox@programming.dev [S] 6 points 5 months ago There are plenty of humans using em dash, how do you think large language models learnt to use them in the first place? NPR even did an episode on it called Inside the unofficial movement to save the em dash — from A.I. permalink fedilink source parent [–] totally_human_emdash_user@piefed.blahaj.zone 5 points 5 months ago It turns out that modern software supports something called "Copy and Paste" that makes it easy to insert an em-dash whenever—and wherever—you want. permalink fedilink source parent [–] sping@lemmy.sdf.org 4 points 5 months ago Compose minus minus for me. I use it frequently. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Mac@mander.xyz 5 points 5 months ago (2 children) I toned down mu em-dash usage because i don't want people to think it's AI :( permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] MagicShel@lemmy.zip 6 points 5 months ago I tuned my usage up once I realized it is universal punctuation. I used to be unfamiliar with it and agonize over which punctuation was best for a given sentence. Can't decide between a comma, semi-colon, comma clause, parenthetical, or what-not — just use an emdash and don't fucking worry about it. I'm pretty sure I haven't been accused of being an LLM. Despite my lazy command of the emdash and comfortability with multisyllabic and archaic words, I think LLMs come across as insufferable bores and I don't think I do that — not to that degree, anyway. permalink fedilink source parent [–] queerlilhayseed@piefed.blahaj.zone 4 points 5 months ago If it makes you feel any better, they'll probably use your posts as training data in the future and as a result, future LLMs will be (a lil bit) less likely to use em-dashes. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] MagicShel@lemmy.zip 6 points 5 months ago I tuned my usage up once I realized it is universal punctuation. I used to be unfamiliar with it and agonize over which punctuation was best for a given sentence. Can't decide between a comma, semi-colon, comma clause, parenthetical, or what-not — just use an emdash and don't fucking worry about it. I'm pretty sure I haven't been accused of being an LLM. Despite my lazy command of the emdash and comfortability with multisyllabic and archaic words, I think LLMs come across as insufferable bores and I don't think I do that — not to that degree, anyway. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] queerlilhayseed@piefed.blahaj.zone 4 points 5 months ago If it makes you feel any better, they'll probably use your posts as training data in the future and as a result, future LLMs will be (a lil bit) less likely to use em-dashes. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] paraphrand@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago (1 child) Aww you’re no fun. Stop with the nuance. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] codeinabox@programming.dev [S] 1 point 5 months ago My nuanced reply was in response to the nuances of the parent comment. I thought we shared articles to discuss their content, not the grammar. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] codeinabox@programming.dev [S] 1 point 5 months ago My nuanced reply was in response to the nuances of the parent comment. I thought we shared articles to discuss their content, not the grammar. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] rimu@piefed.social 0 points 5 months ago (1 child) That is not the only sign in that blog post, just the most obvious one. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] queerlilhayseed@piefed.blahaj.zone 3 points 5 months ago (1 child) Please dish if you feel so inclined. I thought it felt very "blogger who has written a lot of blog posts" but I didn't get any AI smell. I've known for a while that one day the day would come when I wouldn't be able to pick out the AI artifacts, and I'd join the throngs that chase the will o' wisps through the dead internet. Maybe this is it for me. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] rimu@piefed.social -1 points 5 months ago Copy and paste it into an AI detector. Especially the bit about the abstraction tower. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] queerlilhayseed@piefed.blahaj.zone 3 points 5 months ago (1 child) Please dish if you feel so inclined. I thought it felt very "blogger who has written a lot of blog posts" but I didn't get any AI smell. I've known for a while that one day the day would come when I wouldn't be able to pick out the AI artifacts, and I'd join the throngs that chase the will o' wisps through the dead internet. Maybe this is it for me. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] rimu@piefed.social -1 points 5 months ago Copy and paste it into an AI detector. Especially the bit about the abstraction tower. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] rimu@piefed.social -1 points 5 months ago Copy and paste it into an AI detector. Especially the bit about the abstraction tower. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] ThomasWilliams@lemmy.world -7 points 5 months ago (3 children) There's no debate, no one real uses em dash. Where is the em dash key on the keyboard? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] codeinabox@programming.dev [S] 6 points 5 months ago There are plenty of humans using em dash, how do you think large language models learnt to use them in the first place? NPR even did an episode on it called Inside the unofficial movement to save the em dash — from A.I. permalink fedilink source parent [–] totally_human_emdash_user@piefed.blahaj.zone 5 points 5 months ago It turns out that modern software supports something called "Copy and Paste" that makes it easy to insert an em-dash whenever—and wherever—you want. permalink fedilink source parent [–] sping@lemmy.sdf.org 4 points 5 months ago Compose minus minus for me. I use it frequently. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] codeinabox@programming.dev [S] 6 points 5 months ago There are plenty of humans using em dash, how do you think large language models learnt to use them in the first place? NPR even did an episode on it called Inside the unofficial movement to save the em dash — from A.I. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] totally_human_emdash_user@piefed.blahaj.zone 5 points 5 months ago It turns out that modern software supports something called "Copy and Paste" that makes it easy to insert an em-dash whenever—and wherever—you want. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] sping@lemmy.sdf.org 4 points 5 months ago Compose minus minus for me. I use it frequently. permalink fedilink source parent