I am disagreeing with 'Sorry but what do you mean by this? I’m struggling to see how this is bad. Would you rather a leader took all the money they could get their hands on? Because that’s how you end up with Trump. ...'

That how we ended up with this president is exactly by trusting leaders like Starmer to be the opposition to them. By allowing our captured political parties run as the status quo in a rapidly degenerating plutocracy, not only are they just running as the lesser of two evils, they are actively making things worse themselves. Never more true than with Starmer, guy has presided over more damage than happened in the last 20 years arguably.

ie Losing the right to protest when disfavored, right to a jury trial for up to 3 years in prison, creating a masterbaitorbase to keep a database of every web page you considered whacking off to, age checks, which together with the porn laws are the most insidious, the trojan horse brought behind the walls of liberal democracy, with Peter Thiel's crack soldiers hidden inside it so to speak. A surrender to the worst of the technofascists for a cut of the information and some control on whose secret social scores are what and how they are treated. Then bad faith terror proscriptions and other perversions of the justice system. Starmer is full on fascist, and it's more insidious because the groups that most oppose it are "his side," and therefore allowing the ancient freedoms of English Common Law to be taken from them, without a fight, by a captured political party of the oligarchy, that is throwing the country into the arms of fascists, in league with the US and Russia, that plan on fixing elections.

Even if Reform doesn't know they plan on fixing elections, even if you guys think that wouldn't be accepted there, that is what is going to happen. And having powerful foreign intelligence agencies involved in your politics is extremely dangerous, not something to just slough off. All it takes is a leader to champion some popular reform, to sweep the country and negate the death of democracy in all but name to put the worst people in the world in charge indefinitely, but we still refuse to do that, believing the "safe" choice, is the sold out corporatists that no one likes and is actively betraying us, and western values.

Sorry to be so long winded, I was just trying to explain to you where I was coming from in that, I could've written a whole lot more this is me holding back.