▲ 440 ▼ Ice kills another protestor in Minneapolis. (www.independent.co.uk) submitted 6 months ago* by Substance_P@lemmy.world to c/politics@lemmy.world 33 comments fedilink hide all child comments Federal agents have been involved in yet another fatal shooting in Minneapolis, city officials have said
[+] danekrae@lemmy.world -9 points 6 months ago (4 children) I bet if enough protest, they'll just stop... permalink fedilink source hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] TwiddleTwaddle@lemmy.blahaj.zone 23 points 6 months ago (1 child) Okay but unironically getting organized with your local community and sustained general strike actions will literally bring the nation to it's knees. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] stylusmobilus@aussie.zone 7 points 6 months ago This is the only option they have. As they’ve repeatedly been reminded, the sooner they do it the easier it will be. Churchill was right. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Spazz@lemmynsfw.com 1 point 6 months ago Fucking disgusting permalink fedilink source parent [–] cynar@lemmy.world 0 points 6 months ago Where do you think those willing to go further often meet and connect? How do they know that a large group will have their backs? Look at the Irish troubles for inspiration. The IRA would have not gotten anywhere alone. The protests, marches, and civil disobedience show support to both them and the British government. The political arm could then use that support to push for real changes. permalink fedilink source parent [+] the_q@lemmy.zip -2 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (4 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] TwiddleTwaddle@lemmy.blahaj.zone 12 points 6 months ago (2 children) This is the most harmful rhetoric to a resistance movement that I can imagine. You're literally saying that people organizing themselves to force radical change have no power or ability to succeed. Resistance does not look like a witty sign. It looks like community self defence, direct action, union organizing, general strike, and the miriad other methods that have been historically successful against authoritarian and oppressive regimes. These are the methods being used by organizers in Minneapolis today. And you're here arguing that The People dont have power. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [+] the_q@lemmy.zip 2 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TwiddleTwaddle@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 point 6 months ago* (1 child) "Peaceful protest" has very little to do with what I'm talking about. I'm talking about militant resistance, such was what anarchist/communist movements have put into practice for 150+ years, including in the US. It isnt delusional, it's history. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] the_q@lemmy.zip 1 point 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TwiddleTwaddle@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 6 months ago* (1 child) Ask the union leaders in Minneapolis if "no one is doing that." Minneapolis is where the George Floyd Uprising started. Go ask those organizers (who are absolutely active today) why "no one is doing that." Just because you dont see it, doesn't mean it doesnt happen. Its not the job of the resistance movement to look like what an outside observer thinks it should look like. Read radical theory and you might recognize the signs of radical resistance. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] the_q@lemmy.zip 0 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] Auli@lemmy.ca 1 point 6 months ago Problem is times change. They have enough money they don't need us. permalink fedilink source parent [–] danekrae@lemmy.world 3 points 6 months ago (1 child) Deep down they really think letting Nazis kill you is only remedied by a sign. Watching Saving Private Ryan and wondering where the protest signs were. "Well of course they're going to get shot, when they're being violent!" permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] the_q@lemmy.zip 3 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] dreadbeef@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 6 months ago why is owning a gun legal? permalink fedilink source parent [–] TwiddleTwaddle@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 6 months ago No, it takes militant direct action. Liberal protests are toothless sign waving performances, but radical protest movements have over 100 years of history showing exactly what methods will force regimes to recognize the power of The People. permalink fedilink source parent [–] dreadbeef@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 6 months ago (1 child) wish i could ban you permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] the_q@lemmy.zip 1 point 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[–] TwiddleTwaddle@lemmy.blahaj.zone 23 points 6 months ago (1 child) Okay but unironically getting organized with your local community and sustained general strike actions will literally bring the nation to it's knees. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] stylusmobilus@aussie.zone 7 points 6 months ago This is the only option they have. As they’ve repeatedly been reminded, the sooner they do it the easier it will be. Churchill was right. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] stylusmobilus@aussie.zone 7 points 6 months ago This is the only option they have. As they’ve repeatedly been reminded, the sooner they do it the easier it will be. Churchill was right. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] cynar@lemmy.world 0 points 6 months ago Where do you think those willing to go further often meet and connect? How do they know that a large group will have their backs? Look at the Irish troubles for inspiration. The IRA would have not gotten anywhere alone. The protests, marches, and civil disobedience show support to both them and the British government. The political arm could then use that support to push for real changes. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] the_q@lemmy.zip -2 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (4 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] TwiddleTwaddle@lemmy.blahaj.zone 12 points 6 months ago (2 children) This is the most harmful rhetoric to a resistance movement that I can imagine. You're literally saying that people organizing themselves to force radical change have no power or ability to succeed. Resistance does not look like a witty sign. It looks like community self defence, direct action, union organizing, general strike, and the miriad other methods that have been historically successful against authoritarian and oppressive regimes. These are the methods being used by organizers in Minneapolis today. And you're here arguing that The People dont have power. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [+] the_q@lemmy.zip 2 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TwiddleTwaddle@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 point 6 months ago* (1 child) "Peaceful protest" has very little to do with what I'm talking about. I'm talking about militant resistance, such was what anarchist/communist movements have put into practice for 150+ years, including in the US. It isnt delusional, it's history. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] the_q@lemmy.zip 1 point 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TwiddleTwaddle@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 6 months ago* (1 child) Ask the union leaders in Minneapolis if "no one is doing that." Minneapolis is where the George Floyd Uprising started. Go ask those organizers (who are absolutely active today) why "no one is doing that." Just because you dont see it, doesn't mean it doesnt happen. Its not the job of the resistance movement to look like what an outside observer thinks it should look like. Read radical theory and you might recognize the signs of radical resistance. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] the_q@lemmy.zip 0 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] Auli@lemmy.ca 1 point 6 months ago Problem is times change. They have enough money they don't need us. permalink fedilink source parent [–] danekrae@lemmy.world 3 points 6 months ago (1 child) Deep down they really think letting Nazis kill you is only remedied by a sign. Watching Saving Private Ryan and wondering where the protest signs were. "Well of course they're going to get shot, when they're being violent!" permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] the_q@lemmy.zip 3 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] dreadbeef@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 6 months ago why is owning a gun legal? permalink fedilink source parent [–] TwiddleTwaddle@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 6 months ago No, it takes militant direct action. Liberal protests are toothless sign waving performances, but radical protest movements have over 100 years of history showing exactly what methods will force regimes to recognize the power of The People. permalink fedilink source parent [–] dreadbeef@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 6 months ago (1 child) wish i could ban you permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] the_q@lemmy.zip 1 point 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[–] TwiddleTwaddle@lemmy.blahaj.zone 12 points 6 months ago (2 children) This is the most harmful rhetoric to a resistance movement that I can imagine. You're literally saying that people organizing themselves to force radical change have no power or ability to succeed. Resistance does not look like a witty sign. It looks like community self defence, direct action, union organizing, general strike, and the miriad other methods that have been historically successful against authoritarian and oppressive regimes. These are the methods being used by organizers in Minneapolis today. And you're here arguing that The People dont have power. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [+] the_q@lemmy.zip 2 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TwiddleTwaddle@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 point 6 months ago* (1 child) "Peaceful protest" has very little to do with what I'm talking about. I'm talking about militant resistance, such was what anarchist/communist movements have put into practice for 150+ years, including in the US. It isnt delusional, it's history. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] the_q@lemmy.zip 1 point 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TwiddleTwaddle@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 6 months ago* (1 child) Ask the union leaders in Minneapolis if "no one is doing that." Minneapolis is where the George Floyd Uprising started. Go ask those organizers (who are absolutely active today) why "no one is doing that." Just because you dont see it, doesn't mean it doesnt happen. Its not the job of the resistance movement to look like what an outside observer thinks it should look like. Read radical theory and you might recognize the signs of radical resistance. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] the_q@lemmy.zip 0 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] Auli@lemmy.ca 1 point 6 months ago Problem is times change. They have enough money they don't need us. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] the_q@lemmy.zip 2 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TwiddleTwaddle@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 point 6 months ago* (1 child) "Peaceful protest" has very little to do with what I'm talking about. I'm talking about militant resistance, such was what anarchist/communist movements have put into practice for 150+ years, including in the US. It isnt delusional, it's history. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] the_q@lemmy.zip 1 point 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TwiddleTwaddle@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 6 months ago* (1 child) Ask the union leaders in Minneapolis if "no one is doing that." Minneapolis is where the George Floyd Uprising started. Go ask those organizers (who are absolutely active today) why "no one is doing that." Just because you dont see it, doesn't mean it doesnt happen. Its not the job of the resistance movement to look like what an outside observer thinks it should look like. Read radical theory and you might recognize the signs of radical resistance. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] the_q@lemmy.zip 0 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[–] TwiddleTwaddle@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 point 6 months ago* (1 child) "Peaceful protest" has very little to do with what I'm talking about. I'm talking about militant resistance, such was what anarchist/communist movements have put into practice for 150+ years, including in the US. It isnt delusional, it's history. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] the_q@lemmy.zip 1 point 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TwiddleTwaddle@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 6 months ago* (1 child) Ask the union leaders in Minneapolis if "no one is doing that." Minneapolis is where the George Floyd Uprising started. Go ask those organizers (who are absolutely active today) why "no one is doing that." Just because you dont see it, doesn't mean it doesnt happen. Its not the job of the resistance movement to look like what an outside observer thinks it should look like. Read radical theory and you might recognize the signs of radical resistance. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] the_q@lemmy.zip 0 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[+] the_q@lemmy.zip 1 point 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TwiddleTwaddle@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 6 months ago* (1 child) Ask the union leaders in Minneapolis if "no one is doing that." Minneapolis is where the George Floyd Uprising started. Go ask those organizers (who are absolutely active today) why "no one is doing that." Just because you dont see it, doesn't mean it doesnt happen. Its not the job of the resistance movement to look like what an outside observer thinks it should look like. Read radical theory and you might recognize the signs of radical resistance. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] the_q@lemmy.zip 0 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[–] TwiddleTwaddle@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 6 months ago* (1 child) Ask the union leaders in Minneapolis if "no one is doing that." Minneapolis is where the George Floyd Uprising started. Go ask those organizers (who are absolutely active today) why "no one is doing that." Just because you dont see it, doesn't mean it doesnt happen. Its not the job of the resistance movement to look like what an outside observer thinks it should look like. Read radical theory and you might recognize the signs of radical resistance. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] the_q@lemmy.zip 0 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
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[–] Auli@lemmy.ca 1 point 6 months ago Problem is times change. They have enough money they don't need us. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] danekrae@lemmy.world 3 points 6 months ago (1 child) Deep down they really think letting Nazis kill you is only remedied by a sign. Watching Saving Private Ryan and wondering where the protest signs were. "Well of course they're going to get shot, when they're being violent!" permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] the_q@lemmy.zip 3 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] dreadbeef@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 6 months ago why is owning a gun legal? permalink fedilink source parent
[+] the_q@lemmy.zip 3 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] dreadbeef@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 6 months ago why is owning a gun legal? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] dreadbeef@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 6 months ago why is owning a gun legal? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] TwiddleTwaddle@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 6 months ago No, it takes militant direct action. Liberal protests are toothless sign waving performances, but radical protest movements have over 100 years of history showing exactly what methods will force regimes to recognize the power of The People. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] dreadbeef@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 6 months ago (1 child) wish i could ban you permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] the_q@lemmy.zip 1 point 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
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