▲ 822 ▼ ICE says its officers can forcibly enter homes during immigration operations without judicial warrants: 2025 memo (www.nbcnews.com) submitted 6 months ago by Sunflier@lemmy.world to c/news@lemmy.world 193 comments fedilink hide all child comments Turns out all you need is a Supreme Court majority on your side and you can wipe your ass with the Constitution.
[–] snugglesthefalse@sh.itjust.works 11 points 6 months ago (4 children) Nobody wants to start it because the consequences would be huge and right now sitting around doing nothing is still possible. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] cley_faye@lemmy.world 8 points 6 months ago If they decide to follow this memo and actual law enforcement do not care, sitting around doing nothing will not remain an option. permalink fedilink source parent [–] sheogorath@lemmy.world 4 points 6 months ago (1 child) It just need someone snapping and starts shooting ICE. Then all hell will break loose. IIRC there's some political scientists doing a simulation on how a civil war might start in modern America and it's eerily similar to what's been going on right now. There's only two steps left, someone shooting ICE and then the federal government starts sending troops to take over State and clashing between federal military and the national guard. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Buddahriffic@lemmy.world 2 points 6 months ago (1 child) How would you even simulate something that relies almost entirely on non-deterministic human behaviours? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] sheogorath@lemmy.world 2 points 6 months ago They played some kind of RPG. https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2026/jan/21/ice-minnesota-trump permalink fedilink source parent [–] Jako302@feddit.org 4 points 6 months ago (1 child) At least from an outside perspective it seems like the consequence are inevitable. Sitting around only delays everything and increases the overall suffering. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] snugglesthefalse@sh.itjust.works 1 point 6 months ago Yeah, I should mention that my perspective is very much an outside one. I've never been to the American continent. But I think a lot of us are tired of nothing happening even if it's better than the alternative in the short term. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Strider@lemmy.world 1 point 6 months ago Indeed! But doing nothing did and does validate what he is doing. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] cley_faye@lemmy.world 8 points 6 months ago If they decide to follow this memo and actual law enforcement do not care, sitting around doing nothing will not remain an option. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] sheogorath@lemmy.world 4 points 6 months ago (1 child) It just need someone snapping and starts shooting ICE. Then all hell will break loose. IIRC there's some political scientists doing a simulation on how a civil war might start in modern America and it's eerily similar to what's been going on right now. There's only two steps left, someone shooting ICE and then the federal government starts sending troops to take over State and clashing between federal military and the national guard. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Buddahriffic@lemmy.world 2 points 6 months ago (1 child) How would you even simulate something that relies almost entirely on non-deterministic human behaviours? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] sheogorath@lemmy.world 2 points 6 months ago They played some kind of RPG. https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2026/jan/21/ice-minnesota-trump permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Buddahriffic@lemmy.world 2 points 6 months ago (1 child) How would you even simulate something that relies almost entirely on non-deterministic human behaviours? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] sheogorath@lemmy.world 2 points 6 months ago They played some kind of RPG. https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2026/jan/21/ice-minnesota-trump permalink fedilink source parent
[–] sheogorath@lemmy.world 2 points 6 months ago They played some kind of RPG. https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2026/jan/21/ice-minnesota-trump permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Jako302@feddit.org 4 points 6 months ago (1 child) At least from an outside perspective it seems like the consequence are inevitable. Sitting around only delays everything and increases the overall suffering. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] snugglesthefalse@sh.itjust.works 1 point 6 months ago Yeah, I should mention that my perspective is very much an outside one. I've never been to the American continent. But I think a lot of us are tired of nothing happening even if it's better than the alternative in the short term. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] snugglesthefalse@sh.itjust.works 1 point 6 months ago Yeah, I should mention that my perspective is very much an outside one. I've never been to the American continent. But I think a lot of us are tired of nothing happening even if it's better than the alternative in the short term. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Strider@lemmy.world 1 point 6 months ago Indeed! But doing nothing did and does validate what he is doing. permalink fedilink source parent