Invoking Vaclav Havel, he said it was time to stop pretending that what the western powers called a rules-based order was not a self-serving sham.

“Great powers can afford, for now, to go it alone. They have the market size, the military capacity and the leverage to dictate terms. Middle powers do not. But when we only negotiate bilaterally with a hegemon, we negotiate from weakness. We accept what’s offered. We compete with each other to be the most accommodating,” he said

“Being a happy vassal is one thing, being a miserable slave is something else,” he said.

“If you back down now, you’re going to lose your dignity, and that’s probably the most precious thing you can have in a democracy, it’s your dignity.”

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[–] 10 points 6 months ago (3 children)

This would be rousing to me if Carney weren't an international banker who's a-okay with runaway capitalism taking over his country in the same way it's decimated the US.

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  • [–] 8 points 6 months ago (1 child)

    Yeah Canada and the US are really the same. Sure buddy. Steaming hot pile of take right there.

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  • [+] -8 points 6 months ago (1 child)

    You're right.

    I should give the international banker who is currently doing his best to run his country into the ground more credit because he stepped up to the podium and said nice things.

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  • [–] 8 points 6 months ago (1 child)

    I'm sure you'll forgive me, but I rather think that given what he has accomplished in his first year, his overall skillset and deep knowledge in relevant fields, and his preeminent experience at the highest levels of economic and strategic discourse, he is much more trustworthy on the topics of trade and economic diversification, defense and sovereignty and affordability - and far better suited to protect and progress our country away from US dependence - than you are, random internet stranger who has none of the equivalent skills, experience or access to critical information from expert advisors.

    But that's just me. I prefer to pragmatically consider my options with some humility and respect for expertise, rather than pooling together all the insight of a high school bong session.

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  • [+] -9 points 6 months ago (1 child)

    Imagine someone throwing their trust at a capitalist unironically. Nevermind, you don't have to because murderaxeman is here!

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  • [–] 6 points 6 months ago (1 child)

    Who do you put your trust in when it comes to making economic and political decisions in the face of a generational existential threat to our sovereignty, as well as a massive, rapid and necessary restructuring of our economy?

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  • [–] -5 points 6 months ago* (1 child)

    To keep the status quo of ever widening income gaps and growing fascism a banker of course.

    Revolution requires people not invested in keeping a system that serves wealthy and their favorite proxy, the corporation, exclusively.

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  • [–] 0 points 6 months ago (1 child)

    I wish I could upload my fart in response.

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  • [–] 1 point 6 months ago (1 child)

    I would expect nothing less from a pig.

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  • [–] 1 point 6 months ago (1 child)

    It would properly express the respect I have for this conversation. Oh well, use your imagination.

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  • [–] 1 point 6 months ago (1 child)

    Oh please, you have no respect period. You are not fooling anyone murderaxeman. Cheers!

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  • [–] 0 points 6 months ago (1 child)

    You have to admit it was pretty funny.

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  • [–] 1 point 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 child)

    I don't know. I mean as a dismissive element using crude humor is certainly effective. I can respect that to for what it is.

    Was it funny in this context? I think you believe it was.

    My reply was humourous to me because I imaged you as some pig human corporate shill shitting themself when they hear the truth. Not because they actually care, of course, but just because they felt the need to evacuate their bowels at that moment. Also letting out a series of progressively louder grunts mixed with squeals while the business is conducted.

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  • [–] 1 point 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

    You're overthinking it buddy. It's a fart, it's funny.

    If you feel like you need to understand me to make it funny, then fill yer boots.

    Edit honestly if you don't find farts funny then you're a loser because you're choosing to have less joy in your life but the exact same amount of farts.

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  • [–] 4 points 6 months ago (1 child)

    The Canadian banking system is different, by design, which left Canada relatively unscathed during the financial meltdown. Guess who Canada’s central banker was during all that? Mark Carney.

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  • [–] -3 points 6 months ago (1 child)

    He fucked the UK up pretty well when he was at the Bank of England

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  • [–] 5 points 6 months ago (1 child)

    No, he mitigated the damage you did to yourselves.

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