β² 347 βΌ EU Parliament freezes US trade deal ratification after Trump's tariff threats over Greenland (www.lemonde.fr) submitted 6 months ago by cyrano@piefed.social to c/europe@feddit.org 28 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[β] Swemg@lemmy.world 42 points 6 months ago (3 children) When he fucking dies permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [β] Denjin@feddit.uk 28 points 6 months ago (7 children) JD Vance as president will almost certainly be worse for everyone. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 14 child comments replies: [β] Swemg@lemmy.world 16 points 6 months ago Maybe, but it will feel so good tho permalink fedilink source parent [β] D_C@sh.itjust.works 14 points 6 months ago Depends on how the orange paedo dies... If it's by natural causes, then it's possible the couch fucker could be worse. If it's by hanging from a rope then lowered into a guillotine for choppy choppy time then I'm pretty sure things will be different. permalink fedilink source parent [β] devfuuu@lemmy.world 11 points 6 months ago More than one individual can die at any time... permalink fedilink source parent [β] kingofras@lemmy.world 8 points 6 months ago Thing is, the election was rigged. Vance isnβt really the rightful owner to the throne. The fact that elections can be rigged, bragged about and not investigated, means it will happen again. Honestly he will simply cancel all elections now (at least until the only party you can vote for is his party). Sorry folks, this is the end of a 250 year empire unfolding before our eyes, not much you can do about it except to not be Chamberlain about it. permalink fedilink source parent [β] 13igTyme@piefed.social 5 points 6 months ago Vance doesn't have the life time of propaganda training Trump has. He'd be crushed. permalink fedilink source parent [β] pastermil@sh.itjust.works 3 points 6 months ago (1 child) I guess "when their period end" was never an option. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] atro_city@fedia.io 7 points 6 months ago "Women are too emotional" Meanwhile Trump... permalink fedilink source parent [β] shalafi@lemmy.world 1 point 6 months ago Vance will immediately catch all the blame for Trump's actions. I do not envy his upcoming role. The cultists are aware on some level that this is all madness, but they've committed, can't change their support. βIt's easier to fool people than to convince them that they have been fooled.β None of them rallied for Vance, and they'll eat him alive the second he's sworn in. With Trump dead, "These OTHER people fooled me!" permalink fedilink source parent [β] SeductiveTortoise@piefed.social 4 points 6 months ago That usually calms them down, but there are too many of them waiting for that and to step up. permalink fedilink source parent [β] Thedogdrinkscoffee@lemmy.ca 3 points 6 months ago (2 children) Nothing changes when he dies, other than a great party and wicked hangover. The Fascists are still in power, and they won't have Nappy Mcpoopypants to stupid things up so much. Trump is the face of the problem, not the problem itself. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [β] shalafi@lemmy.world 2 points 6 months ago (1 child) It ALL changes when Trump dies, overnight. No cult survives the death of the leader. Vance steps in, he's immediately to blame for everything Trump did. Many of these fanatics are looking for an offramp from the madness, but they can't turn on Trump. (They don't know this, but they need a way to say they weren't wrong.) Or, look at it from another angle, you think MAGA gives two shits about Hegseth, Miller, Bondi, Vought, Kennedy, Noem, et. al.? LOL, man-on-the-street doesn't have a clue who those people are, but they'll turn into targets without Trump's cover. OR, think on this. Would Germany have continued down the Nazi path if Hitler had died early in the game? Hell, even if he died late in the game, think the people would have rallied behind Goebbels or DΓΆnitz? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] Thedogdrinkscoffee@lemmy.ca 0 points 6 months ago In Nazi Germany, there is no way to tell because it didn't play out that way. I look to China, Russia and North Korea and I see evidence that power can survive succession. I hope you are right, but I wouldn't count on it. permalink fedilink source parent [β] bagsy@lemmy.world 1 point 6 months ago (1 child) Trumpnappears to be compromised by Putin, if might be safe to assume the next person wont be. Trump appears to have dirt on a ton of powerful people due to their involvement with Epstien and other child rape clubs. I hope the next person has no such leverage. Without out the threat of russian assassination or blackmail, maybe the whole ugly thing unwinds with trump? One can only hope. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] Thedogdrinkscoffee@lemmy.ca 2 points 6 months ago if might be safe to assume the next person wont be. This sentence seems to disagree with the one before and the one after. Russian muckymuks have leverage on the POTUS, the NRA, the GOP and god knows where else. There is no reason to believe anything will improve once the child rapist is gone. permalink fedilink source parent
[β] Denjin@feddit.uk 28 points 6 months ago (7 children) JD Vance as president will almost certainly be worse for everyone. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 14 child comments replies: [β] Swemg@lemmy.world 16 points 6 months ago Maybe, but it will feel so good tho permalink fedilink source parent [β] D_C@sh.itjust.works 14 points 6 months ago Depends on how the orange paedo dies... If it's by natural causes, then it's possible the couch fucker could be worse. If it's by hanging from a rope then lowered into a guillotine for choppy choppy time then I'm pretty sure things will be different. permalink fedilink source parent [β] devfuuu@lemmy.world 11 points 6 months ago More than one individual can die at any time... permalink fedilink source parent [β] kingofras@lemmy.world 8 points 6 months ago Thing is, the election was rigged. Vance isnβt really the rightful owner to the throne. The fact that elections can be rigged, bragged about and not investigated, means it will happen again. Honestly he will simply cancel all elections now (at least until the only party you can vote for is his party). Sorry folks, this is the end of a 250 year empire unfolding before our eyes, not much you can do about it except to not be Chamberlain about it. permalink fedilink source parent [β] 13igTyme@piefed.social 5 points 6 months ago Vance doesn't have the life time of propaganda training Trump has. He'd be crushed. permalink fedilink source parent [β] pastermil@sh.itjust.works 3 points 6 months ago (1 child) I guess "when their period end" was never an option. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] atro_city@fedia.io 7 points 6 months ago "Women are too emotional" Meanwhile Trump... permalink fedilink source parent [β] shalafi@lemmy.world 1 point 6 months ago Vance will immediately catch all the blame for Trump's actions. I do not envy his upcoming role. The cultists are aware on some level that this is all madness, but they've committed, can't change their support. βIt's easier to fool people than to convince them that they have been fooled.β None of them rallied for Vance, and they'll eat him alive the second he's sworn in. With Trump dead, "These OTHER people fooled me!" permalink fedilink source parent
[β] Swemg@lemmy.world 16 points 6 months ago Maybe, but it will feel so good tho permalink fedilink source parent
[β] D_C@sh.itjust.works 14 points 6 months ago Depends on how the orange paedo dies... If it's by natural causes, then it's possible the couch fucker could be worse. If it's by hanging from a rope then lowered into a guillotine for choppy choppy time then I'm pretty sure things will be different. permalink fedilink source parent
[β] devfuuu@lemmy.world 11 points 6 months ago More than one individual can die at any time... permalink fedilink source parent
[β] kingofras@lemmy.world 8 points 6 months ago Thing is, the election was rigged. Vance isnβt really the rightful owner to the throne. The fact that elections can be rigged, bragged about and not investigated, means it will happen again. Honestly he will simply cancel all elections now (at least until the only party you can vote for is his party). Sorry folks, this is the end of a 250 year empire unfolding before our eyes, not much you can do about it except to not be Chamberlain about it. permalink fedilink source parent
[β] 13igTyme@piefed.social 5 points 6 months ago Vance doesn't have the life time of propaganda training Trump has. He'd be crushed. permalink fedilink source parent
[β] pastermil@sh.itjust.works 3 points 6 months ago (1 child) I guess "when their period end" was never an option. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] atro_city@fedia.io 7 points 6 months ago "Women are too emotional" Meanwhile Trump... permalink fedilink source parent
[β] atro_city@fedia.io 7 points 6 months ago "Women are too emotional" Meanwhile Trump... permalink fedilink source parent
[β] shalafi@lemmy.world 1 point 6 months ago Vance will immediately catch all the blame for Trump's actions. I do not envy his upcoming role. The cultists are aware on some level that this is all madness, but they've committed, can't change their support. βIt's easier to fool people than to convince them that they have been fooled.β None of them rallied for Vance, and they'll eat him alive the second he's sworn in. With Trump dead, "These OTHER people fooled me!" permalink fedilink source parent
[β] SeductiveTortoise@piefed.social 4 points 6 months ago That usually calms them down, but there are too many of them waiting for that and to step up. permalink fedilink source parent
[β] Thedogdrinkscoffee@lemmy.ca 3 points 6 months ago (2 children) Nothing changes when he dies, other than a great party and wicked hangover. The Fascists are still in power, and they won't have Nappy Mcpoopypants to stupid things up so much. Trump is the face of the problem, not the problem itself. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [β] shalafi@lemmy.world 2 points 6 months ago (1 child) It ALL changes when Trump dies, overnight. No cult survives the death of the leader. Vance steps in, he's immediately to blame for everything Trump did. Many of these fanatics are looking for an offramp from the madness, but they can't turn on Trump. (They don't know this, but they need a way to say they weren't wrong.) Or, look at it from another angle, you think MAGA gives two shits about Hegseth, Miller, Bondi, Vought, Kennedy, Noem, et. al.? LOL, man-on-the-street doesn't have a clue who those people are, but they'll turn into targets without Trump's cover. OR, think on this. Would Germany have continued down the Nazi path if Hitler had died early in the game? Hell, even if he died late in the game, think the people would have rallied behind Goebbels or DΓΆnitz? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] Thedogdrinkscoffee@lemmy.ca 0 points 6 months ago In Nazi Germany, there is no way to tell because it didn't play out that way. I look to China, Russia and North Korea and I see evidence that power can survive succession. I hope you are right, but I wouldn't count on it. permalink fedilink source parent [β] bagsy@lemmy.world 1 point 6 months ago (1 child) Trumpnappears to be compromised by Putin, if might be safe to assume the next person wont be. Trump appears to have dirt on a ton of powerful people due to their involvement with Epstien and other child rape clubs. I hope the next person has no such leverage. Without out the threat of russian assassination or blackmail, maybe the whole ugly thing unwinds with trump? One can only hope. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] Thedogdrinkscoffee@lemmy.ca 2 points 6 months ago if might be safe to assume the next person wont be. This sentence seems to disagree with the one before and the one after. Russian muckymuks have leverage on the POTUS, the NRA, the GOP and god knows where else. There is no reason to believe anything will improve once the child rapist is gone. permalink fedilink source parent
[β] shalafi@lemmy.world 2 points 6 months ago (1 child) It ALL changes when Trump dies, overnight. No cult survives the death of the leader. Vance steps in, he's immediately to blame for everything Trump did. Many of these fanatics are looking for an offramp from the madness, but they can't turn on Trump. (They don't know this, but they need a way to say they weren't wrong.) Or, look at it from another angle, you think MAGA gives two shits about Hegseth, Miller, Bondi, Vought, Kennedy, Noem, et. al.? LOL, man-on-the-street doesn't have a clue who those people are, but they'll turn into targets without Trump's cover. OR, think on this. Would Germany have continued down the Nazi path if Hitler had died early in the game? Hell, even if he died late in the game, think the people would have rallied behind Goebbels or DΓΆnitz? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] Thedogdrinkscoffee@lemmy.ca 0 points 6 months ago In Nazi Germany, there is no way to tell because it didn't play out that way. I look to China, Russia and North Korea and I see evidence that power can survive succession. I hope you are right, but I wouldn't count on it. permalink fedilink source parent
[β] Thedogdrinkscoffee@lemmy.ca 0 points 6 months ago In Nazi Germany, there is no way to tell because it didn't play out that way. I look to China, Russia and North Korea and I see evidence that power can survive succession. I hope you are right, but I wouldn't count on it. permalink fedilink source parent
[β] bagsy@lemmy.world 1 point 6 months ago (1 child) Trumpnappears to be compromised by Putin, if might be safe to assume the next person wont be. Trump appears to have dirt on a ton of powerful people due to their involvement with Epstien and other child rape clubs. I hope the next person has no such leverage. Without out the threat of russian assassination or blackmail, maybe the whole ugly thing unwinds with trump? One can only hope. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] Thedogdrinkscoffee@lemmy.ca 2 points 6 months ago if might be safe to assume the next person wont be. This sentence seems to disagree with the one before and the one after. Russian muckymuks have leverage on the POTUS, the NRA, the GOP and god knows where else. There is no reason to believe anything will improve once the child rapist is gone. permalink fedilink source parent
[β] Thedogdrinkscoffee@lemmy.ca 2 points 6 months ago if might be safe to assume the next person wont be. This sentence seems to disagree with the one before and the one after. Russian muckymuks have leverage on the POTUS, the NRA, the GOP and god knows where else. There is no reason to believe anything will improve once the child rapist is gone. permalink fedilink source parent