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[–] STUPIDVIPGUY@lemmy.world 52 points 3 years ago (6 children) forget cultural differences, and imagine yourself out there on a 35c day, and tell me which one is better. permalink fedilink source hideshow 12 child comments replies: [–] deranger@lemmy.world 106 points 3 years ago (3 children) Flowing robes 100%, literally designed for being in the heat and sun. 35C isn’t even that bad, it’s hotter in Texas. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] Dee@lemmy.world 39 points 3 years ago I was going to say, I'm pro-bikini but used to live in Texas and wore longer sleeves to keep the sun off my skin because it kept me cooler doing that than if I wore a short sleeve shirt. permalink fedilink source parent [–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 3 points 3 years ago sigh Truth. permalink fedilink source parent [+] BigJim@lemmy.world 1 point 3 years ago [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] nxfsi@lemmy.world 46 points 3 years ago (1 child) but Arab clothing is literally designed for the Sahara desert permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] kluevo@lemmy.world 13 points 3 years ago (2 children) Sahara desert I assume you meant Arabian desert? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] nxfsi@lemmy.world 33 points 3 years ago (1 child) Whoops, though North African clothing is very similar and those are definitely designed for the Sahara. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Shardikprime@lemmy.world 2 points 3 years ago Bro it is sand nobody is gonna fault you permalink fedilink source parent [–] mightyfoolish@lemmy.world 3 points 3 years ago* It's actually all one big desert. The Arabian Desert is just the Sahara Desert extended over Arabia (and neighboring lands). permalink fedilink source parent [–] Hazdaz@lemmy.world 29 points 3 years ago (2 children) My understanding is that the fabric on burqas (or whatever those clothes are actually called) are extremely lightweight and provide shade, so they actually aren't any warmer than t-shirts and shorts. Possibly because they block the sun, they might even be cooler. But that's simply what I have heard and I personally don't care to find out either way. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] MonkderZweite@feddit.ch 8 points 3 years ago (3 children) Btw, why aren't they white? Reflects more sun. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] nxfsi@lemmy.world 5 points 3 years ago Loose fitting black robes = somehow cooler due to convection schmonvection permalink fedilink source parent [–] Hazdaz@lemmy.world 5 points 3 years ago (1 child) Wild guesses... Easier to clean. Or maybe the material it's made of, isnt white. Or maybe because it has such little thermal mass, that it doesn't matter. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] yimby@lemmy.ca 5 points 3 years ago (1 child) Or because they liked the colours for aesthetic reasons haha. Also choosing a cloth colour has nothing to do with thermal mass and everything to do with absorbtivity/emissivity/reflectivity aka material properties affecting radiative heat transfer. In any case, shirt colour has a small effect on temperature, maybe a 5°C (at most) difference between white and black, according to some studies. So unless you're really chasing the most optimal clothing, it's best to just wear what makes you happy. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Llewellyn@lemmy.ml 11 points 3 years ago 5°C is huge! permalink fedilink source parent [–] b14700@lemm.ee 3 points 3 years ago because they picked black that day permalink fedilink source parent [–] Noughmad@programming.dev 5 points 3 years ago (1 child) I never tested it, but still wonder why nobody who wasn't indoctrinated into it since birth doesn't just decide to wear a burka in summer heat. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] DessertStorms@kbin.social -11 points 3 years ago (2 children) Not only did you not test it, you didn't even bother looking it up, because you don't actually care, you're just here to express islamophobia. Here, have the result of a 5 second search: https://qz.com/766186/the-woman-behind-the-burkini-says-40-of-sales-are-to-non-muslims permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Llewellyn@lemmy.ml 6 points 3 years ago Can we trust your source? permalink fedilink source parent [–] Noughmad@programming.dev 4 points 3 years ago (1 child) I wonder how saying that Muslims are being exploited counts as islamophobia. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 4 points 3 years ago The image above is a great example of the Virgin/Whore social complex. In each case, the woman is held to the demands of men. Women in robes are expected to appear perfectly chaste and insulated from the ravenous male gaze while women in bikinis are expected to be on display for the entertainment of those same men. The shifting social expectations of a male-dominated social hierarchy decide which set of apparel is rewarded and which is shunned. In neither scenario is the woman genuinely considered free. She is simply subjected to a new set of burdensome social standards. permalink fedilink source parent [–] asdfasdfasdf@lemmy.world 9 points 3 years ago https://a.ltrbxd.com/resized/sm/upload/99/4b/qr/9o/lawrence-of-arabia-1200-1200-675-675-crop-000000.jpg?k=9fda3fc502 permalink fedilink source parent [–] Kwizi@lemmy.world 3 points 3 years ago Sun tan lotion doesn't cut it for me, and I can go from white to red in a matter of minutes. So yeah, loose flowing clothes seem nice (not a fan of burqas esthetically but I never tried one so maybe they're comfy?) permalink fedilink source parent [–] MonkderZweite@feddit.ch 1 point 3 years ago Depends on what you want; brown skin or staying cool? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] deranger@lemmy.world 106 points 3 years ago (3 children) Flowing robes 100%, literally designed for being in the heat and sun. 35C isn’t even that bad, it’s hotter in Texas. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] Dee@lemmy.world 39 points 3 years ago I was going to say, I'm pro-bikini but used to live in Texas and wore longer sleeves to keep the sun off my skin because it kept me cooler doing that than if I wore a short sleeve shirt. permalink fedilink source parent [–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 3 points 3 years ago sigh Truth. permalink fedilink source parent [+] BigJim@lemmy.world 1 point 3 years ago [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Dee@lemmy.world 39 points 3 years ago I was going to say, I'm pro-bikini but used to live in Texas and wore longer sleeves to keep the sun off my skin because it kept me cooler doing that than if I wore a short sleeve shirt. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] nxfsi@lemmy.world 46 points 3 years ago (1 child) but Arab clothing is literally designed for the Sahara desert permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] kluevo@lemmy.world 13 points 3 years ago (2 children) Sahara desert I assume you meant Arabian desert? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] nxfsi@lemmy.world 33 points 3 years ago (1 child) Whoops, though North African clothing is very similar and those are definitely designed for the Sahara. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Shardikprime@lemmy.world 2 points 3 years ago Bro it is sand nobody is gonna fault you permalink fedilink source parent [–] mightyfoolish@lemmy.world 3 points 3 years ago* It's actually all one big desert. The Arabian Desert is just the Sahara Desert extended over Arabia (and neighboring lands). permalink fedilink source parent
[–] kluevo@lemmy.world 13 points 3 years ago (2 children) Sahara desert I assume you meant Arabian desert? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] nxfsi@lemmy.world 33 points 3 years ago (1 child) Whoops, though North African clothing is very similar and those are definitely designed for the Sahara. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Shardikprime@lemmy.world 2 points 3 years ago Bro it is sand nobody is gonna fault you permalink fedilink source parent [–] mightyfoolish@lemmy.world 3 points 3 years ago* It's actually all one big desert. The Arabian Desert is just the Sahara Desert extended over Arabia (and neighboring lands). permalink fedilink source parent
[–] nxfsi@lemmy.world 33 points 3 years ago (1 child) Whoops, though North African clothing is very similar and those are definitely designed for the Sahara. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Shardikprime@lemmy.world 2 points 3 years ago Bro it is sand nobody is gonna fault you permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Shardikprime@lemmy.world 2 points 3 years ago Bro it is sand nobody is gonna fault you permalink fedilink source parent
[–] mightyfoolish@lemmy.world 3 points 3 years ago* It's actually all one big desert. The Arabian Desert is just the Sahara Desert extended over Arabia (and neighboring lands). permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Hazdaz@lemmy.world 29 points 3 years ago (2 children) My understanding is that the fabric on burqas (or whatever those clothes are actually called) are extremely lightweight and provide shade, so they actually aren't any warmer than t-shirts and shorts. Possibly because they block the sun, they might even be cooler. But that's simply what I have heard and I personally don't care to find out either way. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] MonkderZweite@feddit.ch 8 points 3 years ago (3 children) Btw, why aren't they white? Reflects more sun. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] nxfsi@lemmy.world 5 points 3 years ago Loose fitting black robes = somehow cooler due to convection schmonvection permalink fedilink source parent [–] Hazdaz@lemmy.world 5 points 3 years ago (1 child) Wild guesses... Easier to clean. Or maybe the material it's made of, isnt white. Or maybe because it has such little thermal mass, that it doesn't matter. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] yimby@lemmy.ca 5 points 3 years ago (1 child) Or because they liked the colours for aesthetic reasons haha. Also choosing a cloth colour has nothing to do with thermal mass and everything to do with absorbtivity/emissivity/reflectivity aka material properties affecting radiative heat transfer. In any case, shirt colour has a small effect on temperature, maybe a 5°C (at most) difference between white and black, according to some studies. So unless you're really chasing the most optimal clothing, it's best to just wear what makes you happy. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Llewellyn@lemmy.ml 11 points 3 years ago 5°C is huge! permalink fedilink source parent [–] b14700@lemm.ee 3 points 3 years ago because they picked black that day permalink fedilink source parent [–] Noughmad@programming.dev 5 points 3 years ago (1 child) I never tested it, but still wonder why nobody who wasn't indoctrinated into it since birth doesn't just decide to wear a burka in summer heat. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] DessertStorms@kbin.social -11 points 3 years ago (2 children) Not only did you not test it, you didn't even bother looking it up, because you don't actually care, you're just here to express islamophobia. Here, have the result of a 5 second search: https://qz.com/766186/the-woman-behind-the-burkini-says-40-of-sales-are-to-non-muslims permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Llewellyn@lemmy.ml 6 points 3 years ago Can we trust your source? permalink fedilink source parent [–] Noughmad@programming.dev 4 points 3 years ago (1 child) I wonder how saying that Muslims are being exploited counts as islamophobia. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 4 points 3 years ago The image above is a great example of the Virgin/Whore social complex. In each case, the woman is held to the demands of men. Women in robes are expected to appear perfectly chaste and insulated from the ravenous male gaze while women in bikinis are expected to be on display for the entertainment of those same men. The shifting social expectations of a male-dominated social hierarchy decide which set of apparel is rewarded and which is shunned. In neither scenario is the woman genuinely considered free. She is simply subjected to a new set of burdensome social standards. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] MonkderZweite@feddit.ch 8 points 3 years ago (3 children) Btw, why aren't they white? Reflects more sun. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] nxfsi@lemmy.world 5 points 3 years ago Loose fitting black robes = somehow cooler due to convection schmonvection permalink fedilink source parent [–] Hazdaz@lemmy.world 5 points 3 years ago (1 child) Wild guesses... Easier to clean. Or maybe the material it's made of, isnt white. Or maybe because it has such little thermal mass, that it doesn't matter. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] yimby@lemmy.ca 5 points 3 years ago (1 child) Or because they liked the colours for aesthetic reasons haha. Also choosing a cloth colour has nothing to do with thermal mass and everything to do with absorbtivity/emissivity/reflectivity aka material properties affecting radiative heat transfer. In any case, shirt colour has a small effect on temperature, maybe a 5°C (at most) difference between white and black, according to some studies. So unless you're really chasing the most optimal clothing, it's best to just wear what makes you happy. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Llewellyn@lemmy.ml 11 points 3 years ago 5°C is huge! permalink fedilink source parent [–] b14700@lemm.ee 3 points 3 years ago because they picked black that day permalink fedilink source parent
[–] nxfsi@lemmy.world 5 points 3 years ago Loose fitting black robes = somehow cooler due to convection schmonvection permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Hazdaz@lemmy.world 5 points 3 years ago (1 child) Wild guesses... Easier to clean. Or maybe the material it's made of, isnt white. Or maybe because it has such little thermal mass, that it doesn't matter. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] yimby@lemmy.ca 5 points 3 years ago (1 child) Or because they liked the colours for aesthetic reasons haha. Also choosing a cloth colour has nothing to do with thermal mass and everything to do with absorbtivity/emissivity/reflectivity aka material properties affecting radiative heat transfer. In any case, shirt colour has a small effect on temperature, maybe a 5°C (at most) difference between white and black, according to some studies. So unless you're really chasing the most optimal clothing, it's best to just wear what makes you happy. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Llewellyn@lemmy.ml 11 points 3 years ago 5°C is huge! permalink fedilink source parent
[–] yimby@lemmy.ca 5 points 3 years ago (1 child) Or because they liked the colours for aesthetic reasons haha. Also choosing a cloth colour has nothing to do with thermal mass and everything to do with absorbtivity/emissivity/reflectivity aka material properties affecting radiative heat transfer. In any case, shirt colour has a small effect on temperature, maybe a 5°C (at most) difference between white and black, according to some studies. So unless you're really chasing the most optimal clothing, it's best to just wear what makes you happy. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Llewellyn@lemmy.ml 11 points 3 years ago 5°C is huge! permalink fedilink source parent
[–] b14700@lemm.ee 3 points 3 years ago because they picked black that day permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Noughmad@programming.dev 5 points 3 years ago (1 child) I never tested it, but still wonder why nobody who wasn't indoctrinated into it since birth doesn't just decide to wear a burka in summer heat. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] DessertStorms@kbin.social -11 points 3 years ago (2 children) Not only did you not test it, you didn't even bother looking it up, because you don't actually care, you're just here to express islamophobia. Here, have the result of a 5 second search: https://qz.com/766186/the-woman-behind-the-burkini-says-40-of-sales-are-to-non-muslims permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Llewellyn@lemmy.ml 6 points 3 years ago Can we trust your source? permalink fedilink source parent [–] Noughmad@programming.dev 4 points 3 years ago (1 child) I wonder how saying that Muslims are being exploited counts as islamophobia. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 4 points 3 years ago The image above is a great example of the Virgin/Whore social complex. In each case, the woman is held to the demands of men. Women in robes are expected to appear perfectly chaste and insulated from the ravenous male gaze while women in bikinis are expected to be on display for the entertainment of those same men. The shifting social expectations of a male-dominated social hierarchy decide which set of apparel is rewarded and which is shunned. In neither scenario is the woman genuinely considered free. She is simply subjected to a new set of burdensome social standards. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] DessertStorms@kbin.social -11 points 3 years ago (2 children) Not only did you not test it, you didn't even bother looking it up, because you don't actually care, you're just here to express islamophobia. Here, have the result of a 5 second search: https://qz.com/766186/the-woman-behind-the-burkini-says-40-of-sales-are-to-non-muslims permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Llewellyn@lemmy.ml 6 points 3 years ago Can we trust your source? permalink fedilink source parent [–] Noughmad@programming.dev 4 points 3 years ago (1 child) I wonder how saying that Muslims are being exploited counts as islamophobia. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 4 points 3 years ago The image above is a great example of the Virgin/Whore social complex. In each case, the woman is held to the demands of men. Women in robes are expected to appear perfectly chaste and insulated from the ravenous male gaze while women in bikinis are expected to be on display for the entertainment of those same men. The shifting social expectations of a male-dominated social hierarchy decide which set of apparel is rewarded and which is shunned. In neither scenario is the woman genuinely considered free. She is simply subjected to a new set of burdensome social standards. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Llewellyn@lemmy.ml 6 points 3 years ago Can we trust your source? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Noughmad@programming.dev 4 points 3 years ago (1 child) I wonder how saying that Muslims are being exploited counts as islamophobia. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 4 points 3 years ago The image above is a great example of the Virgin/Whore social complex. In each case, the woman is held to the demands of men. Women in robes are expected to appear perfectly chaste and insulated from the ravenous male gaze while women in bikinis are expected to be on display for the entertainment of those same men. The shifting social expectations of a male-dominated social hierarchy decide which set of apparel is rewarded and which is shunned. In neither scenario is the woman genuinely considered free. She is simply subjected to a new set of burdensome social standards. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 4 points 3 years ago The image above is a great example of the Virgin/Whore social complex. In each case, the woman is held to the demands of men. Women in robes are expected to appear perfectly chaste and insulated from the ravenous male gaze while women in bikinis are expected to be on display for the entertainment of those same men. The shifting social expectations of a male-dominated social hierarchy decide which set of apparel is rewarded and which is shunned. In neither scenario is the woman genuinely considered free. She is simply subjected to a new set of burdensome social standards. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] asdfasdfasdf@lemmy.world 9 points 3 years ago https://a.ltrbxd.com/resized/sm/upload/99/4b/qr/9o/lawrence-of-arabia-1200-1200-675-675-crop-000000.jpg?k=9fda3fc502 permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Kwizi@lemmy.world 3 points 3 years ago Sun tan lotion doesn't cut it for me, and I can go from white to red in a matter of minutes. So yeah, loose flowing clothes seem nice (not a fan of burqas esthetically but I never tried one so maybe they're comfy?) permalink fedilink source parent
[–] MonkderZweite@feddit.ch 1 point 3 years ago Depends on what you want; brown skin or staying cool? permalink fedilink source parent