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It's a girl! [@flederedcreate] (media.piefed.social)
submitted 7 months ago by [M] to c/nonpolitical_comics@piefed.social
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Hey everyone! In case you haven't noticed, this is a new community focused on NonPolitical Comics (NPCs), which essentially means no gloom and doom of the day stuff.

If you like the idea, help out by posting a comic that you enjoy for us to share!

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[–] 29 points 7 months ago (2 children)

On the contrary, saying it's political is a political opinion.

There's nothing political about the original post, whether you like it or not. You're politicizing it by claiming it's political.

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  • [–] 5 points 7 months ago (1 child)

    Nope. The issue of trans people has basically always been political in my lifetime. I am not saying it should be political, or that it will always be considered political, but to say it isn't political right now is ignoring the reality and is dismissing the real issues faced by transgender people. You can't change reality by making statements because reality is not performative. The way the world works does not revolve around what you say or what you think.

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  • [–] 8 points 7 months ago (1 child)

    Imagine defending trans erasure simply because you believe it's performative to depict them in a non-political light.

    If the comic depicted people protesting with signs demanding trans rights, or a doctor saying "I'm sorry but due to the new regulations I cannot prescribe HRT," then yeah that would have political undertones. If it depicted a dude in a red hat saying "gender is binary and assigned at birth" then that would also be political.

    But this is just a kid coming out to their parents, and the parents are only concerned with what that means for their bet; implying that they accept the kid's chosen gender. If that's political, then so is parents accepting a kid's decision to study art in college, because some people make education a political topic.

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  • [–] 1 point 6 months ago (1 child)

    You don't get it. I am saying that indeed the existence of something is the thing that has been politicised. Some people legitimately believe that transgender is not a real thing and is instead some kind of a delusion or mental illness. Even ignoring that coming out as a concept is political. We wouldn't have the concept of coming out if being queer hadn't been prosecuted and stigmatized in the first place. Being gay or trans would just be a property someone has like having brown eyes.

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  • [–] 4 points 7 months ago (4 children)

    Yes, saying it’s political is a political opinion, but saying it isn’t is just as political

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  • [–] 9 points 7 months ago (1 child)

    If someone doesn't like your car, and they petition congress to outlaw the make and model, they've politicized a non-issue.

    If you tell them it's none of their business, you're not being political. It's not making it political to tell them it isn't political.

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  • [–] 0 points 7 months ago (1 child)

    I would argue it does and there are a lot of examples of this… Tesla maybe? Boycotts are political and acting like they aren't is a political stance

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  • [–] 4 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 child)

    It's more like Musk made himself a political figure when he tampered with elections, bribed voters, did a roman salute at a maga convention, and then hired a bunch of twenty-year-olds to hack into every government agency and steal their data for his AI company [edit: while dismantling the services they provide and laying off the majority of their workforce].

    His assets, including tesla, are simply collateral. Unless you include all the government subsidies he's getting from this quid-pro-quo; those are certainly political.

    A person's personal choice, such as what car to drive or what gender to present as, is not political, and not even remotely comparable.

    Are human rights political, simply because they're enshrined in government documents? If so, then I guess we can't have any depictions life, liberty, or the pursuit of happiness either.

    Are women political because they've had to fight to have the same rights as men? If so, then I guess we can't depict women.

    Are you the type who believes Obama "brought race into politics" simply by... being black and in politics?

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  • [–] 0 points 7 months ago* (1 child)

    A person’s personal choice, such as what car to drive or what gender to present as, is not political, and not even remotely comparable.

    It very well is though, but unrelated to the subject

    Are human rights political, simply because they’re enshrined in government documents? If so, then I guess we can’t have any depictions life, liberty, or the pursuit of happiness either.

    Human rights, subjects like freedom and stuff ARE political. The comic depicting some situations might not be even though they're feature, depending on the angle that is taken. The same comic in a situation where there's less freedom would not have been political had it not made reference to the debated topic or freedom.

    Also, the 'political' stuff I'm talking about is more 'heated' subjects. Everything can be political, it's just a scale though, and I would say for this comic that the threshold has been exceeded.

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  • [–] 5 points 7 months ago (1 child)

    It costs you nothing not to leave your comment. I find it hard to believe someone else was out there waiting to comment how not political this comic was.

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  • [–] 0 points 7 months ago* (1 child)

    So you prefer only having one voice and one political side, and not know other people outside of Lemmy might not think the same? I should be silenced because I’m giving a voice to the minority?

    I know it’s hard to accept that not everyone thinks the same as you, and not everyone is on the political left (because Lemmy is predominantly left-wing) and not everyone accepts the new norms of gender and sexual orientations. Sadly, understanding this is key to society and living with each other in peace.

    I’m not giving an opinion, just saying that this subject is objectively political.

    It costs you nothing to leave it as it is, accept it, and move on with your day, but you’re actively fighting with freedom of speech.

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  • [–] 4 points 7 months ago (1 child)

    You’re missing this point by the widest margin possible, yo. You are the only one here bringing politics of any kind. No one was waiting with utter glee to say how not political this comic was.

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  • [–] 0 points 7 months ago

    Because lemmy is filled with people that wish to believe there wasn't any debate, or who already are okay with the gender question, which is cool, but it doesn't represent the reality. That's exactly what I said: it's just that the current lemmy community isn't really that representative, but acting like this isn't a political subject in pretty much every country is ignorance

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