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Libs: "RuSsIa MaN BaD!!" (lemmy.ml)
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[–] 21 points 7 months ago (4 children)

Let's send both Trump and Putin to the ICC in The Hague. How about that?

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  • [–] 16 points 7 months ago (1 child)

    I agree, but only one of those 2 countries has proclaimed (in law if im not mistaken, but i may be wrong) that they would intervene militarily to prevent one of their own from being tried by the ICC, regardless of the actual crimes they've committed. And im talking about sending special forces to extract said alleged criminal against humanity, from another sovereign nation, abiding by its own laws.

    Guess which of the 2 I'm talking about? Russia is by no means the good guy, but its not a binary issue, as most people on the internet seem to react when these 2 countries are mentioned in the same sentence. Russia being 'bad' doesn't automatically make the US 'good' and vice versa.

    Sure, who's worse shifts back and forth over the years, but to my eyes, currently, the US is worse, and its been that way for a long time. Way before trump. Anyone who thinks this all started when trump took office, is a bit deluded.

    But you're 100% right, send both of them to the ICC, in an ideal world.

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  • [–] 0 points 7 months ago* (1 child)

    Calling the court "a pathetic international organization", Dmitry Medvedev, the Deputy Chairman of Russia's Security Council, warned: "Gentlemen, everyone walks under God and missiles. It is quite possible to imagine the targeted use of a hypersonic Onyx missile by a Russian ship in the North Sea strikes in the Hague court building. Unfortunately, it cannot be shot down... So, judges of the court, watch the skies closely."

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Criminal_Court_arrest_warrants_for_Russian_leaders#Criticism

    Russia’s top investigative body announced Monday that it had opened a “criminal” case against the prosecutor and judges of the International Criminal Court (ICC).

    The move comes as part of a concerted effort from Moscow to intimidate the court in the Netherlands, which on Friday issued an arrest warrant for Russian President Vladimir Putin over his part in “unlawful” forced deportations of Ukrainian children to Russia.

    Former Russian President Dmitry Medvedev threatened earlier Monday to target the court in The Hague with missile strikes.

    https://www.politico.eu/article/putin-russia-icc-criminal-case-moscow-ukraine-war/

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  • [–] 6 points 7 months ago* (1 child)

    I don't think it's reasonable to equivocate a former president making a verbal threat, which still sucks, with an actual state apparatus signing it into law

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  • [–] -1 points 6 months ago (1 child)

    Both are violent threats. US just used to be more legalistic about this sort of thing. I mean Russia also sentenced the judges in absentia in Russian courts. I don't think you could say they're better.

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  • [–] 4 points 6 months ago (1 child)

    Better in what way, morally? Morality isn't real and the level of geopolitics is where it's the least real. From a practical, threat assessment standpoint, one of these things is much more urgent and pressing than the other.

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  • [–] -2 points 6 months ago (2 children)

    I mean yeah one of them is right now bombing another European country so Russia is obviously more alarming but the American threat is pretty bad too

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  • [–] 5 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (2 children)

    One of them is currently supplying and abetting a genocide, kidnapping heads of state, shooting people in the street during gestapo raids, disappearing activists to concentration camps, bombing countries on multiple continents, trying to topple the government of Iran and preparing for multiple invasions.

    The other is at war with the puppet government of exactly one country, which was committing ethnic cleansing and who we put there as part of our own strategy of aggression.

    I know who I consider the bigger threat to peace.

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  • [–] -1 points 6 months ago (1 child)

    I mean we were talking abou someone threatening to attack a European county (and one of them is doing that right now...)

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  • [–] 4 points 6 months ago (1 child)

    A) Greenland

    B) We started the conflict in Ukraine

    C) I cannot stress enough how much bombing the Hague is official US policy

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  • [–] -3 points 6 months ago* (1 child)

    There's no bombing going on in Greenland as far as I know. Lots of bombing going on in Ukraine. If bombing European countries isn't an official Russian policy then they've somehow misshot a lot of missiles.

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