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[–] OptimusPrimeDownfall@discuss.tchncs.de -4 points 7 months ago (1 child) OK, do you have a source for the 90% home ownership rate? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] causepix@lemmy.ml 5 points 7 months ago (1 child) Why? Do you have evidence that suggests otherwise? Is there a particular reason you're so adamant that China's system must be worse than the commodified system we have in the west? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] OptimusPrimeDownfall@discuss.tchncs.de -2 points 7 months ago (1 child) I'm not being adamant and I don't hold that opinion. That's why I'm asking for sources. Until told otherwise, I hold that it's just as bad as every other system. None are good, just different. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] causepix@lemmy.ml 4 points 7 months ago* (1 child) You realize you can type "china homeownership rate" into any search engine and find a wealth of information? Even from outlets that are generally deeply biased against China. It's a pretty strong consensus. Waiting for information to come to you is only going to expose you to narratives that someone has a vested interest in putting in front of you. Someone that's trained and paid to pander to you is going to do it a lot better than a regular well-meaning person that belongs to your class and shares your material interests. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] OptimusPrimeDownfall@discuss.tchncs.de -2 points 7 months ago* (3 children) I don't do the work to back up somebody else's opinion. And clearly other narratives have been put in front of me - look at this thread. None of it is backed up with anything but words except by me. Like, I literally sourced the Chinese government for stuff, but please tell me how me asking for somebody else to put a modicum of work into backing up what they believe is my problem. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] chloroken@lemmy.ml 5 points 7 months ago Bish, you dug up a bunch of sources on this elsewhere in the thread. Very specific claims from the larger topic, Chinese home ownership. The idea that you dont know the figures is laughable based on your other replies. What's actually happening here is you're JAQing off and being a cretin. Learn to search for basic facts and go fuck yourself permalink fedilink source parent [–] Credibly_Human@lemmy.world 4 points 7 months ago I don’t do the work to back up somebody else’s opinion. Yet you expect others to do that here for you. permalink fedilink source parent [–] causepix@lemmy.ml 4 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) Why would I "back up" something that is not in dispute? You are more than capable of doing independent verification if you feel doubtful of any of my claims. In fact I would suggest you verify even information you largely agree with, or at least have a reasonable level of confidence that it won't be totally invalidated by a simple internet search when you repeat it. That's the standard I and a good number of us here hold ourselves to, which is why folks that don't do that tend to have quite an adversarial experience when they find themselves in your place. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] causepix@lemmy.ml 5 points 7 months ago (1 child) Why? Do you have evidence that suggests otherwise? Is there a particular reason you're so adamant that China's system must be worse than the commodified system we have in the west? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] OptimusPrimeDownfall@discuss.tchncs.de -2 points 7 months ago (1 child) I'm not being adamant and I don't hold that opinion. That's why I'm asking for sources. Until told otherwise, I hold that it's just as bad as every other system. None are good, just different. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] causepix@lemmy.ml 4 points 7 months ago* (1 child) You realize you can type "china homeownership rate" into any search engine and find a wealth of information? Even from outlets that are generally deeply biased against China. It's a pretty strong consensus. Waiting for information to come to you is only going to expose you to narratives that someone has a vested interest in putting in front of you. Someone that's trained and paid to pander to you is going to do it a lot better than a regular well-meaning person that belongs to your class and shares your material interests. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] OptimusPrimeDownfall@discuss.tchncs.de -2 points 7 months ago* (3 children) I don't do the work to back up somebody else's opinion. And clearly other narratives have been put in front of me - look at this thread. None of it is backed up with anything but words except by me. Like, I literally sourced the Chinese government for stuff, but please tell me how me asking for somebody else to put a modicum of work into backing up what they believe is my problem. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] chloroken@lemmy.ml 5 points 7 months ago Bish, you dug up a bunch of sources on this elsewhere in the thread. Very specific claims from the larger topic, Chinese home ownership. The idea that you dont know the figures is laughable based on your other replies. What's actually happening here is you're JAQing off and being a cretin. Learn to search for basic facts and go fuck yourself permalink fedilink source parent [–] Credibly_Human@lemmy.world 4 points 7 months ago I don’t do the work to back up somebody else’s opinion. Yet you expect others to do that here for you. permalink fedilink source parent [–] causepix@lemmy.ml 4 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) Why would I "back up" something that is not in dispute? You are more than capable of doing independent verification if you feel doubtful of any of my claims. In fact I would suggest you verify even information you largely agree with, or at least have a reasonable level of confidence that it won't be totally invalidated by a simple internet search when you repeat it. That's the standard I and a good number of us here hold ourselves to, which is why folks that don't do that tend to have quite an adversarial experience when they find themselves in your place. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] OptimusPrimeDownfall@discuss.tchncs.de -2 points 7 months ago (1 child) I'm not being adamant and I don't hold that opinion. That's why I'm asking for sources. Until told otherwise, I hold that it's just as bad as every other system. None are good, just different. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] causepix@lemmy.ml 4 points 7 months ago* (1 child) You realize you can type "china homeownership rate" into any search engine and find a wealth of information? Even from outlets that are generally deeply biased against China. It's a pretty strong consensus. Waiting for information to come to you is only going to expose you to narratives that someone has a vested interest in putting in front of you. Someone that's trained and paid to pander to you is going to do it a lot better than a regular well-meaning person that belongs to your class and shares your material interests. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] OptimusPrimeDownfall@discuss.tchncs.de -2 points 7 months ago* (3 children) I don't do the work to back up somebody else's opinion. And clearly other narratives have been put in front of me - look at this thread. None of it is backed up with anything but words except by me. Like, I literally sourced the Chinese government for stuff, but please tell me how me asking for somebody else to put a modicum of work into backing up what they believe is my problem. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] chloroken@lemmy.ml 5 points 7 months ago Bish, you dug up a bunch of sources on this elsewhere in the thread. Very specific claims from the larger topic, Chinese home ownership. The idea that you dont know the figures is laughable based on your other replies. What's actually happening here is you're JAQing off and being a cretin. Learn to search for basic facts and go fuck yourself permalink fedilink source parent [–] Credibly_Human@lemmy.world 4 points 7 months ago I don’t do the work to back up somebody else’s opinion. Yet you expect others to do that here for you. permalink fedilink source parent [–] causepix@lemmy.ml 4 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) Why would I "back up" something that is not in dispute? You are more than capable of doing independent verification if you feel doubtful of any of my claims. In fact I would suggest you verify even information you largely agree with, or at least have a reasonable level of confidence that it won't be totally invalidated by a simple internet search when you repeat it. That's the standard I and a good number of us here hold ourselves to, which is why folks that don't do that tend to have quite an adversarial experience when they find themselves in your place. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] causepix@lemmy.ml 4 points 7 months ago* (1 child) You realize you can type "china homeownership rate" into any search engine and find a wealth of information? Even from outlets that are generally deeply biased against China. It's a pretty strong consensus. Waiting for information to come to you is only going to expose you to narratives that someone has a vested interest in putting in front of you. Someone that's trained and paid to pander to you is going to do it a lot better than a regular well-meaning person that belongs to your class and shares your material interests. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] OptimusPrimeDownfall@discuss.tchncs.de -2 points 7 months ago* (3 children) I don't do the work to back up somebody else's opinion. And clearly other narratives have been put in front of me - look at this thread. None of it is backed up with anything but words except by me. Like, I literally sourced the Chinese government for stuff, but please tell me how me asking for somebody else to put a modicum of work into backing up what they believe is my problem. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] chloroken@lemmy.ml 5 points 7 months ago Bish, you dug up a bunch of sources on this elsewhere in the thread. Very specific claims from the larger topic, Chinese home ownership. The idea that you dont know the figures is laughable based on your other replies. What's actually happening here is you're JAQing off and being a cretin. Learn to search for basic facts and go fuck yourself permalink fedilink source parent [–] Credibly_Human@lemmy.world 4 points 7 months ago I don’t do the work to back up somebody else’s opinion. Yet you expect others to do that here for you. permalink fedilink source parent [–] causepix@lemmy.ml 4 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) Why would I "back up" something that is not in dispute? You are more than capable of doing independent verification if you feel doubtful of any of my claims. In fact I would suggest you verify even information you largely agree with, or at least have a reasonable level of confidence that it won't be totally invalidated by a simple internet search when you repeat it. That's the standard I and a good number of us here hold ourselves to, which is why folks that don't do that tend to have quite an adversarial experience when they find themselves in your place. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] OptimusPrimeDownfall@discuss.tchncs.de -2 points 7 months ago* (3 children) I don't do the work to back up somebody else's opinion. And clearly other narratives have been put in front of me - look at this thread. None of it is backed up with anything but words except by me. Like, I literally sourced the Chinese government for stuff, but please tell me how me asking for somebody else to put a modicum of work into backing up what they believe is my problem. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] chloroken@lemmy.ml 5 points 7 months ago Bish, you dug up a bunch of sources on this elsewhere in the thread. Very specific claims from the larger topic, Chinese home ownership. The idea that you dont know the figures is laughable based on your other replies. What's actually happening here is you're JAQing off and being a cretin. Learn to search for basic facts and go fuck yourself permalink fedilink source parent [–] Credibly_Human@lemmy.world 4 points 7 months ago I don’t do the work to back up somebody else’s opinion. Yet you expect others to do that here for you. permalink fedilink source parent [–] causepix@lemmy.ml 4 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) Why would I "back up" something that is not in dispute? You are more than capable of doing independent verification if you feel doubtful of any of my claims. In fact I would suggest you verify even information you largely agree with, or at least have a reasonable level of confidence that it won't be totally invalidated by a simple internet search when you repeat it. That's the standard I and a good number of us here hold ourselves to, which is why folks that don't do that tend to have quite an adversarial experience when they find themselves in your place. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] chloroken@lemmy.ml 5 points 7 months ago Bish, you dug up a bunch of sources on this elsewhere in the thread. Very specific claims from the larger topic, Chinese home ownership. The idea that you dont know the figures is laughable based on your other replies. What's actually happening here is you're JAQing off and being a cretin. Learn to search for basic facts and go fuck yourself permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Credibly_Human@lemmy.world 4 points 7 months ago I don’t do the work to back up somebody else’s opinion. Yet you expect others to do that here for you. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] causepix@lemmy.ml 4 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) Why would I "back up" something that is not in dispute? You are more than capable of doing independent verification if you feel doubtful of any of my claims. In fact I would suggest you verify even information you largely agree with, or at least have a reasonable level of confidence that it won't be totally invalidated by a simple internet search when you repeat it. That's the standard I and a good number of us here hold ourselves to, which is why folks that don't do that tend to have quite an adversarial experience when they find themselves in your place. permalink fedilink source parent