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[–] hoch@lemmy.world 179 points 7 months ago (3 children) Maduro has been kidnapped by US forces, this is insane permalink fedilink source hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] falseWhite@lemmy.world 64 points 7 months ago (3 children) Nothing is insane anymore with this administration. It stopped being insane when Americans elected a convicted felon and pedophile. Everything after that was just the same level of insane. As expected by everyone sane. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] eronth@lemmy.dbzer0.com 23 points 7 months ago No it's still insane, just common and expected. permalink fedilink source parent [–] PrimeMinisterKeyes@leminal.space 6 points 7 months ago* Don't forget the ungodly amounts of money that were probably laundered through his casinos. How large a cut do you think he got? permalink fedilink source parent [–] Witchfire@lemmy.world 1 point 7 months ago Hypernormalization is our enemy. This has never stopped being insane, but the intensity intensifies intensely by the day permalink fedilink source parent [–] TheEighthDoctor@lemmy.zip 4 points 7 months ago (1 child) Zero tears for Maduro tho permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] tocopherol@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 7 months ago (1 child) Might as well be commenting "he was no angel though" on a post about George Floyd permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheEighthDoctor@lemmy.zip 4 points 7 months ago I don't see the comparison permalink fedilink source parent [+] davetortoise@reddthat.com -10 points 7 months ago (5 children) He made a deal with Trump. Maduro has abandoned venezuela. You can't capture a national leader this easily unless they're compliant permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 10 child comments replies: [–] x00z@lemmy.world 40 points 7 months ago (1 child) I don't think "come or die" is really a deal. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] davetortoise@reddthat.com 14 points 7 months ago (2 children) Trump gets: Venezuelan oil and mineral wealth cheap labour of Venezuelan people under occupation PR win at a time when his approval is at an all time low distraction from the Epstein files Maduro gets: to a escape a long and bloody war he'd probably lose a cushy life in Florida with a new identity safety for his family escaping trial for anything he might have done during his presidency permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] falseWhite@lemmy.world 15 points 7 months ago (5 children) How does trump get oil and minerals? He doesn't, because Venezuela is still an independent country and is not occupied by the USA. The same is true for "cheap labor. They are not occupied. They will be electing a new president/government. Of course, the USA will try to install their own pawns to get that oil and minerals. But they still might fail. How is this a PR win? A PR win amongst his 30% of cult followers maybe, I don't think it's gonna make anyone else like him. Maduro is not getting a cushy life and a new identity. He is going to stand trial, and Trump will make a spectacle of it. Now that might win him some PR points. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 10 child comments replies: [–] kiagam@lemmy.world 12 points 7 months ago You get the oil and minerals because the next guy knows not to deny you when you ask permalink fedilink source parent [–] sukhmel@programming.dev 11 points 7 months ago They are not occupied Yet, you mean? I don't know what to expect anymore, so nothing is out of the question permalink fedilink source parent [–] Madison420@lemmy.world 4 points 7 months ago It'll be weird to watch. He just pardoned a convicted cartel boss that was the leader of a nation with the excuse that the leader of a nation wouldn't be involved in drug trafficking or murder. It'll be a three ring circus and he'll probably lose since he can't even manage to successfully prosecute a single immigrant. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Furbag@lemmy.world 3 points 7 months ago How does trump get oil and minerals? He doesn’t, because Venezuela is still an independent country and is not occupied by the USA. The replacement is little more than a US puppet. She will be indebted to Trump for as long as he remains in office, be it three more years, or for the rest of his life. They will be electing a new president/government. That has technically already happened. Maduro just refused to transfer power. As far at the PR goes, Trump doesn't need PR anymore. His idiot base are unshakable. If he can get convicted of multiple felonies and still get elected, and then the Epstein files drop and implicate him and he still doesn't get brought up on impeachment charges, then there's no social ramifications for him any longer. Congress and the courts will protect him from run-of-the-mill abuses of power and scandals that would otherwise be devastating to a normal political figure. About the only thing he's in danger of is letting people starve, which will cause mass riots. As long as he can avoid total economic collapse, he'll be fine. permalink fedilink source parent [–] a_non_monotonic_function@lemmy.world 1 point 7 months ago How does trump get oil and minerals? He doesn't, because Venezuela is still an independent country and is not occupied by the USA. He has already claimed them and is talking more boots in the ground. permalink fedilink source parent [+] falseWhite@lemmy.world 2 points 7 months ago [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] apftwb@lemmy.world 20 points 7 months ago* Nope. https://apnews.com/live/trump-us-venezuela-updates-01-03-2026 U.S. Attorney General Pam Bondi said Maduro and his wife, Cilia Flores, would face charges after an indictment in New York. Unless of course he made a deal and was immediately crossed. permalink fedilink source parent [–] falseWhite@lemmy.world 8 points 7 months ago If there was any "deal" made, both the army and his personal security would have had to be informed. This seems very unlikely as it would be extremely difficult to hide this plot unless they kill everyone who knows about this. permalink fedilink source parent [–] awaysaway@sh.itjust.works 7 points 7 months ago (1 child) that's a major hit to their ability to fight back right? Even if he wasn't collaborating losing a monolithic leader like would be a massive blow their ability to effectively resist. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] davetortoise@reddthat.com 5 points 7 months ago Depends on whether anybody can quickly step in to fill the gap really permalink fedilink source parent [–] Madison420@lemmy.world 3 points 7 months ago You do when you have our military. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] falseWhite@lemmy.world 64 points 7 months ago (3 children) Nothing is insane anymore with this administration. It stopped being insane when Americans elected a convicted felon and pedophile. Everything after that was just the same level of insane. As expected by everyone sane. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] eronth@lemmy.dbzer0.com 23 points 7 months ago No it's still insane, just common and expected. permalink fedilink source parent [–] PrimeMinisterKeyes@leminal.space 6 points 7 months ago* Don't forget the ungodly amounts of money that were probably laundered through his casinos. How large a cut do you think he got? permalink fedilink source parent [–] Witchfire@lemmy.world 1 point 7 months ago Hypernormalization is our enemy. This has never stopped being insane, but the intensity intensifies intensely by the day permalink fedilink source parent
[–] eronth@lemmy.dbzer0.com 23 points 7 months ago No it's still insane, just common and expected. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] PrimeMinisterKeyes@leminal.space 6 points 7 months ago* Don't forget the ungodly amounts of money that were probably laundered through his casinos. How large a cut do you think he got? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Witchfire@lemmy.world 1 point 7 months ago Hypernormalization is our enemy. This has never stopped being insane, but the intensity intensifies intensely by the day permalink fedilink source parent
[–] TheEighthDoctor@lemmy.zip 4 points 7 months ago (1 child) Zero tears for Maduro tho permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] tocopherol@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 7 months ago (1 child) Might as well be commenting "he was no angel though" on a post about George Floyd permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheEighthDoctor@lemmy.zip 4 points 7 months ago I don't see the comparison permalink fedilink source parent
[–] tocopherol@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 7 months ago (1 child) Might as well be commenting "he was no angel though" on a post about George Floyd permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheEighthDoctor@lemmy.zip 4 points 7 months ago I don't see the comparison permalink fedilink source parent
[–] TheEighthDoctor@lemmy.zip 4 points 7 months ago I don't see the comparison permalink fedilink source parent
[+] davetortoise@reddthat.com -10 points 7 months ago (5 children) He made a deal with Trump. Maduro has abandoned venezuela. You can't capture a national leader this easily unless they're compliant permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 10 child comments replies: [–] x00z@lemmy.world 40 points 7 months ago (1 child) I don't think "come or die" is really a deal. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] davetortoise@reddthat.com 14 points 7 months ago (2 children) Trump gets: Venezuelan oil and mineral wealth cheap labour of Venezuelan people under occupation PR win at a time when his approval is at an all time low distraction from the Epstein files Maduro gets: to a escape a long and bloody war he'd probably lose a cushy life in Florida with a new identity safety for his family escaping trial for anything he might have done during his presidency permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] falseWhite@lemmy.world 15 points 7 months ago (5 children) How does trump get oil and minerals? He doesn't, because Venezuela is still an independent country and is not occupied by the USA. The same is true for "cheap labor. They are not occupied. They will be electing a new president/government. Of course, the USA will try to install their own pawns to get that oil and minerals. But they still might fail. How is this a PR win? A PR win amongst his 30% of cult followers maybe, I don't think it's gonna make anyone else like him. Maduro is not getting a cushy life and a new identity. He is going to stand trial, and Trump will make a spectacle of it. Now that might win him some PR points. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 10 child comments replies: [–] kiagam@lemmy.world 12 points 7 months ago You get the oil and minerals because the next guy knows not to deny you when you ask permalink fedilink source parent [–] sukhmel@programming.dev 11 points 7 months ago They are not occupied Yet, you mean? I don't know what to expect anymore, so nothing is out of the question permalink fedilink source parent [–] Madison420@lemmy.world 4 points 7 months ago It'll be weird to watch. He just pardoned a convicted cartel boss that was the leader of a nation with the excuse that the leader of a nation wouldn't be involved in drug trafficking or murder. It'll be a three ring circus and he'll probably lose since he can't even manage to successfully prosecute a single immigrant. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Furbag@lemmy.world 3 points 7 months ago How does trump get oil and minerals? He doesn’t, because Venezuela is still an independent country and is not occupied by the USA. The replacement is little more than a US puppet. She will be indebted to Trump for as long as he remains in office, be it three more years, or for the rest of his life. They will be electing a new president/government. That has technically already happened. Maduro just refused to transfer power. As far at the PR goes, Trump doesn't need PR anymore. His idiot base are unshakable. If he can get convicted of multiple felonies and still get elected, and then the Epstein files drop and implicate him and he still doesn't get brought up on impeachment charges, then there's no social ramifications for him any longer. Congress and the courts will protect him from run-of-the-mill abuses of power and scandals that would otherwise be devastating to a normal political figure. About the only thing he's in danger of is letting people starve, which will cause mass riots. As long as he can avoid total economic collapse, he'll be fine. permalink fedilink source parent [–] a_non_monotonic_function@lemmy.world 1 point 7 months ago How does trump get oil and minerals? He doesn't, because Venezuela is still an independent country and is not occupied by the USA. He has already claimed them and is talking more boots in the ground. permalink fedilink source parent [+] falseWhite@lemmy.world 2 points 7 months ago [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] apftwb@lemmy.world 20 points 7 months ago* Nope. https://apnews.com/live/trump-us-venezuela-updates-01-03-2026 U.S. Attorney General Pam Bondi said Maduro and his wife, Cilia Flores, would face charges after an indictment in New York. Unless of course he made a deal and was immediately crossed. permalink fedilink source parent [–] falseWhite@lemmy.world 8 points 7 months ago If there was any "deal" made, both the army and his personal security would have had to be informed. This seems very unlikely as it would be extremely difficult to hide this plot unless they kill everyone who knows about this. permalink fedilink source parent [–] awaysaway@sh.itjust.works 7 points 7 months ago (1 child) that's a major hit to their ability to fight back right? Even if he wasn't collaborating losing a monolithic leader like would be a massive blow their ability to effectively resist. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] davetortoise@reddthat.com 5 points 7 months ago Depends on whether anybody can quickly step in to fill the gap really permalink fedilink source parent [–] Madison420@lemmy.world 3 points 7 months ago You do when you have our military. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] x00z@lemmy.world 40 points 7 months ago (1 child) I don't think "come or die" is really a deal. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] davetortoise@reddthat.com 14 points 7 months ago (2 children) Trump gets: Venezuelan oil and mineral wealth cheap labour of Venezuelan people under occupation PR win at a time when his approval is at an all time low distraction from the Epstein files Maduro gets: to a escape a long and bloody war he'd probably lose a cushy life in Florida with a new identity safety for his family escaping trial for anything he might have done during his presidency permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] falseWhite@lemmy.world 15 points 7 months ago (5 children) How does trump get oil and minerals? He doesn't, because Venezuela is still an independent country and is not occupied by the USA. The same is true for "cheap labor. They are not occupied. They will be electing a new president/government. Of course, the USA will try to install their own pawns to get that oil and minerals. But they still might fail. How is this a PR win? A PR win amongst his 30% of cult followers maybe, I don't think it's gonna make anyone else like him. Maduro is not getting a cushy life and a new identity. He is going to stand trial, and Trump will make a spectacle of it. Now that might win him some PR points. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 10 child comments replies: [–] kiagam@lemmy.world 12 points 7 months ago You get the oil and minerals because the next guy knows not to deny you when you ask permalink fedilink source parent [–] sukhmel@programming.dev 11 points 7 months ago They are not occupied Yet, you mean? I don't know what to expect anymore, so nothing is out of the question permalink fedilink source parent [–] Madison420@lemmy.world 4 points 7 months ago It'll be weird to watch. He just pardoned a convicted cartel boss that was the leader of a nation with the excuse that the leader of a nation wouldn't be involved in drug trafficking or murder. It'll be a three ring circus and he'll probably lose since he can't even manage to successfully prosecute a single immigrant. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Furbag@lemmy.world 3 points 7 months ago How does trump get oil and minerals? He doesn’t, because Venezuela is still an independent country and is not occupied by the USA. The replacement is little more than a US puppet. She will be indebted to Trump for as long as he remains in office, be it three more years, or for the rest of his life. They will be electing a new president/government. That has technically already happened. Maduro just refused to transfer power. As far at the PR goes, Trump doesn't need PR anymore. His idiot base are unshakable. If he can get convicted of multiple felonies and still get elected, and then the Epstein files drop and implicate him and he still doesn't get brought up on impeachment charges, then there's no social ramifications for him any longer. Congress and the courts will protect him from run-of-the-mill abuses of power and scandals that would otherwise be devastating to a normal political figure. About the only thing he's in danger of is letting people starve, which will cause mass riots. As long as he can avoid total economic collapse, he'll be fine. permalink fedilink source parent [–] a_non_monotonic_function@lemmy.world 1 point 7 months ago How does trump get oil and minerals? He doesn't, because Venezuela is still an independent country and is not occupied by the USA. He has already claimed them and is talking more boots in the ground. permalink fedilink source parent [+] falseWhite@lemmy.world 2 points 7 months ago [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[–] davetortoise@reddthat.com 14 points 7 months ago (2 children) Trump gets: Venezuelan oil and mineral wealth cheap labour of Venezuelan people under occupation PR win at a time when his approval is at an all time low distraction from the Epstein files Maduro gets: to a escape a long and bloody war he'd probably lose a cushy life in Florida with a new identity safety for his family escaping trial for anything he might have done during his presidency permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] falseWhite@lemmy.world 15 points 7 months ago (5 children) How does trump get oil and minerals? He doesn't, because Venezuela is still an independent country and is not occupied by the USA. The same is true for "cheap labor. They are not occupied. They will be electing a new president/government. Of course, the USA will try to install their own pawns to get that oil and minerals. But they still might fail. How is this a PR win? A PR win amongst his 30% of cult followers maybe, I don't think it's gonna make anyone else like him. Maduro is not getting a cushy life and a new identity. He is going to stand trial, and Trump will make a spectacle of it. Now that might win him some PR points. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 10 child comments replies: [–] kiagam@lemmy.world 12 points 7 months ago You get the oil and minerals because the next guy knows not to deny you when you ask permalink fedilink source parent [–] sukhmel@programming.dev 11 points 7 months ago They are not occupied Yet, you mean? I don't know what to expect anymore, so nothing is out of the question permalink fedilink source parent [–] Madison420@lemmy.world 4 points 7 months ago It'll be weird to watch. He just pardoned a convicted cartel boss that was the leader of a nation with the excuse that the leader of a nation wouldn't be involved in drug trafficking or murder. It'll be a three ring circus and he'll probably lose since he can't even manage to successfully prosecute a single immigrant. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Furbag@lemmy.world 3 points 7 months ago How does trump get oil and minerals? He doesn’t, because Venezuela is still an independent country and is not occupied by the USA. The replacement is little more than a US puppet. She will be indebted to Trump for as long as he remains in office, be it three more years, or for the rest of his life. They will be electing a new president/government. That has technically already happened. Maduro just refused to transfer power. As far at the PR goes, Trump doesn't need PR anymore. His idiot base are unshakable. If he can get convicted of multiple felonies and still get elected, and then the Epstein files drop and implicate him and he still doesn't get brought up on impeachment charges, then there's no social ramifications for him any longer. Congress and the courts will protect him from run-of-the-mill abuses of power and scandals that would otherwise be devastating to a normal political figure. About the only thing he's in danger of is letting people starve, which will cause mass riots. As long as he can avoid total economic collapse, he'll be fine. permalink fedilink source parent [–] a_non_monotonic_function@lemmy.world 1 point 7 months ago How does trump get oil and minerals? He doesn't, because Venezuela is still an independent country and is not occupied by the USA. He has already claimed them and is talking more boots in the ground. permalink fedilink source parent [+] falseWhite@lemmy.world 2 points 7 months ago [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[–] falseWhite@lemmy.world 15 points 7 months ago (5 children) How does trump get oil and minerals? He doesn't, because Venezuela is still an independent country and is not occupied by the USA. The same is true for "cheap labor. They are not occupied. They will be electing a new president/government. Of course, the USA will try to install their own pawns to get that oil and minerals. But they still might fail. How is this a PR win? A PR win amongst his 30% of cult followers maybe, I don't think it's gonna make anyone else like him. Maduro is not getting a cushy life and a new identity. He is going to stand trial, and Trump will make a spectacle of it. Now that might win him some PR points. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 10 child comments replies: [–] kiagam@lemmy.world 12 points 7 months ago You get the oil and minerals because the next guy knows not to deny you when you ask permalink fedilink source parent [–] sukhmel@programming.dev 11 points 7 months ago They are not occupied Yet, you mean? I don't know what to expect anymore, so nothing is out of the question permalink fedilink source parent [–] Madison420@lemmy.world 4 points 7 months ago It'll be weird to watch. He just pardoned a convicted cartel boss that was the leader of a nation with the excuse that the leader of a nation wouldn't be involved in drug trafficking or murder. It'll be a three ring circus and he'll probably lose since he can't even manage to successfully prosecute a single immigrant. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Furbag@lemmy.world 3 points 7 months ago How does trump get oil and minerals? He doesn’t, because Venezuela is still an independent country and is not occupied by the USA. The replacement is little more than a US puppet. She will be indebted to Trump for as long as he remains in office, be it three more years, or for the rest of his life. They will be electing a new president/government. That has technically already happened. Maduro just refused to transfer power. As far at the PR goes, Trump doesn't need PR anymore. His idiot base are unshakable. If he can get convicted of multiple felonies and still get elected, and then the Epstein files drop and implicate him and he still doesn't get brought up on impeachment charges, then there's no social ramifications for him any longer. Congress and the courts will protect him from run-of-the-mill abuses of power and scandals that would otherwise be devastating to a normal political figure. About the only thing he's in danger of is letting people starve, which will cause mass riots. As long as he can avoid total economic collapse, he'll be fine. permalink fedilink source parent [–] a_non_monotonic_function@lemmy.world 1 point 7 months ago How does trump get oil and minerals? He doesn't, because Venezuela is still an independent country and is not occupied by the USA. He has already claimed them and is talking more boots in the ground. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] kiagam@lemmy.world 12 points 7 months ago You get the oil and minerals because the next guy knows not to deny you when you ask permalink fedilink source parent
[–] sukhmel@programming.dev 11 points 7 months ago They are not occupied Yet, you mean? I don't know what to expect anymore, so nothing is out of the question permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Madison420@lemmy.world 4 points 7 months ago It'll be weird to watch. He just pardoned a convicted cartel boss that was the leader of a nation with the excuse that the leader of a nation wouldn't be involved in drug trafficking or murder. It'll be a three ring circus and he'll probably lose since he can't even manage to successfully prosecute a single immigrant. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Furbag@lemmy.world 3 points 7 months ago How does trump get oil and minerals? He doesn’t, because Venezuela is still an independent country and is not occupied by the USA. The replacement is little more than a US puppet. She will be indebted to Trump for as long as he remains in office, be it three more years, or for the rest of his life. They will be electing a new president/government. That has technically already happened. Maduro just refused to transfer power. As far at the PR goes, Trump doesn't need PR anymore. His idiot base are unshakable. If he can get convicted of multiple felonies and still get elected, and then the Epstein files drop and implicate him and he still doesn't get brought up on impeachment charges, then there's no social ramifications for him any longer. Congress and the courts will protect him from run-of-the-mill abuses of power and scandals that would otherwise be devastating to a normal political figure. About the only thing he's in danger of is letting people starve, which will cause mass riots. As long as he can avoid total economic collapse, he'll be fine. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] a_non_monotonic_function@lemmy.world 1 point 7 months ago How does trump get oil and minerals? He doesn't, because Venezuela is still an independent country and is not occupied by the USA. He has already claimed them and is talking more boots in the ground. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] apftwb@lemmy.world 20 points 7 months ago* Nope. https://apnews.com/live/trump-us-venezuela-updates-01-03-2026 U.S. Attorney General Pam Bondi said Maduro and his wife, Cilia Flores, would face charges after an indictment in New York. Unless of course he made a deal and was immediately crossed. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] falseWhite@lemmy.world 8 points 7 months ago If there was any "deal" made, both the army and his personal security would have had to be informed. This seems very unlikely as it would be extremely difficult to hide this plot unless they kill everyone who knows about this. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] awaysaway@sh.itjust.works 7 points 7 months ago (1 child) that's a major hit to their ability to fight back right? Even if he wasn't collaborating losing a monolithic leader like would be a massive blow their ability to effectively resist. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] davetortoise@reddthat.com 5 points 7 months ago Depends on whether anybody can quickly step in to fill the gap really permalink fedilink source parent
[–] davetortoise@reddthat.com 5 points 7 months ago Depends on whether anybody can quickly step in to fill the gap really permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Madison420@lemmy.world 3 points 7 months ago You do when you have our military. permalink fedilink source parent