▲ 198 ▼ LG Electronics unveils 2026 Gram Laptop line with aerospace composite - up to 50% lighter than macbooks (biz.chosun.com) submitted 7 months ago by drmoose@lemmy.world to c/technology@lemmy.world 108 comments fedilink hide all child comments Weight Comparison Model Weight (grams) Screen Size LG Gram Pro 16 (2026) 1,199 16-inch MacBook Air 15 (M4/M3) 1,510 15-inch MacBook Pro 14 (M5/M3) 1,550-1,600 14-inch MacBook Pro 16 (M3+) 2,140-2,200 16-inch
[–] RepleteLocum@lemmy.blahaj.zone 21 points 7 months ago (1 child) Claims to be an ai laptop. Has 8 GB of vram in a 5050. permalink fedilink source hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] glog78@digitalcourage.social 7 points 7 months ago (1 child) @RepleteLocum @drmoose The LLM's are not run on the gpu but rather on the cpu "AMD Ryzen AI 400" for the higher model and use therefor the system memory. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheOakTree@lemmy.zip 6 points 7 months ago (1 child) I feel like the "AI capable" marketed CPUs are a sham. For the average user, it's just going to feel slow compared to cloud compute, so it's just training the average person to not bother buying AI-labelled hardware for AI. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] glog78@digitalcourage.social -1 points 7 months ago (1 child) @TheOakTree IMHO it's not the speed. People are patient enough if the result is good. But lets be honest the context windows are damm small to handle local context. Try to summarize things which are bigger than a email or a very small article. Try to have a slightly bigger codebase... And specially this "smaller" local llm's have a much more limited quality by default without additional informations provided. We also don't wanna talk about the expected prices of DDR5 memory for modern CPU's. So even if you have a AI CPU from AMD or similar most of those PC's won't have 64+GB ram -> Try of a bigger content window QWEN3:4b with 256k ctx permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheOakTree@lemmy.zip 1 point 7 months ago* Oh, certainly. The reason I focused on speed is because an idiot using a shoddy LLM may not notice it's hallucinations or failures as easily as they'd notice it's sluggishness. However, the meaningfulness of the LLM's responses are a necessary condition, whereas the speed and convenience is more of a sufficient condition (which contradicts my first statement). Either way, I don't think the average users knows what hardware they need to leverage local AI. My point is that this "AI" hardware gives a bad experience and leaves a bad impression of running AI locally, because 98% of people saw "AI" in the CPU model and figured it should work. And thus, more compute is pushed to datatcenters. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] glog78@digitalcourage.social 7 points 7 months ago (1 child) @RepleteLocum @drmoose The LLM's are not run on the gpu but rather on the cpu "AMD Ryzen AI 400" for the higher model and use therefor the system memory. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheOakTree@lemmy.zip 6 points 7 months ago (1 child) I feel like the "AI capable" marketed CPUs are a sham. For the average user, it's just going to feel slow compared to cloud compute, so it's just training the average person to not bother buying AI-labelled hardware for AI. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] glog78@digitalcourage.social -1 points 7 months ago (1 child) @TheOakTree IMHO it's not the speed. People are patient enough if the result is good. But lets be honest the context windows are damm small to handle local context. Try to summarize things which are bigger than a email or a very small article. Try to have a slightly bigger codebase... And specially this "smaller" local llm's have a much more limited quality by default without additional informations provided. We also don't wanna talk about the expected prices of DDR5 memory for modern CPU's. So even if you have a AI CPU from AMD or similar most of those PC's won't have 64+GB ram -> Try of a bigger content window QWEN3:4b with 256k ctx permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheOakTree@lemmy.zip 1 point 7 months ago* Oh, certainly. The reason I focused on speed is because an idiot using a shoddy LLM may not notice it's hallucinations or failures as easily as they'd notice it's sluggishness. However, the meaningfulness of the LLM's responses are a necessary condition, whereas the speed and convenience is more of a sufficient condition (which contradicts my first statement). Either way, I don't think the average users knows what hardware they need to leverage local AI. My point is that this "AI" hardware gives a bad experience and leaves a bad impression of running AI locally, because 98% of people saw "AI" in the CPU model and figured it should work. And thus, more compute is pushed to datatcenters. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] TheOakTree@lemmy.zip 6 points 7 months ago (1 child) I feel like the "AI capable" marketed CPUs are a sham. For the average user, it's just going to feel slow compared to cloud compute, so it's just training the average person to not bother buying AI-labelled hardware for AI. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] glog78@digitalcourage.social -1 points 7 months ago (1 child) @TheOakTree IMHO it's not the speed. People are patient enough if the result is good. But lets be honest the context windows are damm small to handle local context. Try to summarize things which are bigger than a email or a very small article. Try to have a slightly bigger codebase... And specially this "smaller" local llm's have a much more limited quality by default without additional informations provided. We also don't wanna talk about the expected prices of DDR5 memory for modern CPU's. So even if you have a AI CPU from AMD or similar most of those PC's won't have 64+GB ram -> Try of a bigger content window QWEN3:4b with 256k ctx permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheOakTree@lemmy.zip 1 point 7 months ago* Oh, certainly. The reason I focused on speed is because an idiot using a shoddy LLM may not notice it's hallucinations or failures as easily as they'd notice it's sluggishness. However, the meaningfulness of the LLM's responses are a necessary condition, whereas the speed and convenience is more of a sufficient condition (which contradicts my first statement). Either way, I don't think the average users knows what hardware they need to leverage local AI. My point is that this "AI" hardware gives a bad experience and leaves a bad impression of running AI locally, because 98% of people saw "AI" in the CPU model and figured it should work. And thus, more compute is pushed to datatcenters. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] glog78@digitalcourage.social -1 points 7 months ago (1 child) @TheOakTree IMHO it's not the speed. People are patient enough if the result is good. But lets be honest the context windows are damm small to handle local context. Try to summarize things which are bigger than a email or a very small article. Try to have a slightly bigger codebase... And specially this "smaller" local llm's have a much more limited quality by default without additional informations provided. We also don't wanna talk about the expected prices of DDR5 memory for modern CPU's. So even if you have a AI CPU from AMD or similar most of those PC's won't have 64+GB ram -> Try of a bigger content window QWEN3:4b with 256k ctx permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheOakTree@lemmy.zip 1 point 7 months ago* Oh, certainly. The reason I focused on speed is because an idiot using a shoddy LLM may not notice it's hallucinations or failures as easily as they'd notice it's sluggishness. However, the meaningfulness of the LLM's responses are a necessary condition, whereas the speed and convenience is more of a sufficient condition (which contradicts my first statement). Either way, I don't think the average users knows what hardware they need to leverage local AI. My point is that this "AI" hardware gives a bad experience and leaves a bad impression of running AI locally, because 98% of people saw "AI" in the CPU model and figured it should work. And thus, more compute is pushed to datatcenters. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] TheOakTree@lemmy.zip 1 point 7 months ago* Oh, certainly. The reason I focused on speed is because an idiot using a shoddy LLM may not notice it's hallucinations or failures as easily as they'd notice it's sluggishness. However, the meaningfulness of the LLM's responses are a necessary condition, whereas the speed and convenience is more of a sufficient condition (which contradicts my first statement). Either way, I don't think the average users knows what hardware they need to leverage local AI. My point is that this "AI" hardware gives a bad experience and leaves a bad impression of running AI locally, because 98% of people saw "AI" in the CPU model and figured it should work. And thus, more compute is pushed to datatcenters. permalink fedilink source parent