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[β] FauxLiving@lemmy.world 147 points 7 months ago (7 children) All you need to know is that, whatever you pick, you made the wrong choice and you will be roasted if you ever attempt to explain your decision. Unless you use Arch, then you have chosen correctly. permalink fedilink source hideshow 14 child comments replies: [β] AnarchistArtificer@slrpnk.net 39 points 7 months ago (1 child) I use Fedora, but I frequent the Arch wiki often enough that I feel like an honorary Arch user. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] FauxLiving@lemmy.world 14 points 7 months ago The Gentoo wiki is pretty good too permalink fedilink source parent [β] ragas@lemmy.ml 23 points 7 months ago (1 child) Urgh! Why did you choose Arch? It is just the worst! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] FauxLiving@lemmy.world 20 points 7 months ago Actual reenactment: permalink fedilink source parent [β] NostraDavid@programming.dev 22 points 7 months ago (1 child) You're obviously not using NixOS. I clearly don't even need to try to use such a subpar stateful system such as Arch, you absolute pleb. Am I out-jerking you already? I use NixOS, obviously. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] Andrew15_5@mander.xyz 7 points 7 months ago I use NixOS btw permalink fedilink source parent [β] oppy1984@lemdro.id 19 points 7 months ago Screams in Debian.... permalink fedilink source parent [β] tdawg@lemmy.world 10 points 7 months ago You mispelt gentoo permalink fedilink source parent [β] biscuitswalrus@aussie.zone 9 points 7 months ago Not true, you just become immune to the opposition. permalink fedilink source parent [β] MuckyWaffles@leminal.space 1 point 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (4 children) Arch is utterly inferior because of its use of the Systemd "init" system, which is a bloated mess that completely disregards the Unix philosophy of doing one thing and doing it well, and shouldn't be forgotten for its sins and heresy. "Arch Linux" (Really Arch Gnu/Linux, or more preferably Arch Gnu+Linux (Unless you consider that Gnu runs on top of Linux, in which case it's Linux+Gnu)) cannot be taken seriously as a minimal do it yourself distro when it hinges on an software that has ties with RedHat, which has had a history of forcing their woke Wayland Display Server (Even though Xorg worked just fine, suspicious much?), as well as their DEI onto the entire Linux space - where politics shouldn't play any role. A WOKE company like RedHat has no place in the open source community. If you want to be a true and righteous Linux user, I recommend Either Void Linux+Gnu (What manly men like myself use) or Gentoo. Edit: this is satire, I clearly interact with these people far too often to have done this good of a job. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [β] 5C5C5C@programming.dev 24 points 7 months ago (3 children) It says something about how sad of a state the world is in when I can't tell if this is satire or not. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [β] burntbacon@discuss.tchncs.de 5 points 7 months ago (1 child) I mean, it's both good and bad. The amount of downvotes mean there is a large subset of folks who no longer recognize the twisting of stallman's rant. They are new to linux, and not super-serious-no-casuals-allowed penguin lovers. It's bad because I would love if everyone coming to linux could be as into it as I am. People who are invested into a thing take a much deeper look at things, and can appreciate it's soft and jagged parts and then properly make recommendations on how to change things. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] Digit@lemmy.wtf 1 point 7 months ago There has been I have noticed a marked increase in argumentum populum, argumentum ad lapidem and argumentum ad novitatem, with the influx of new users (in recent years), who seem to be coming to "Linux" like it's another platform; another groupthink team to switch to ["PC vs Mac"], rather than Linux just being a kernel that has a license that qualifies it as having a Free Software philosophy, and the free software (free as in freedom) being the reason to use it. Like they're still caught in, not just the fallacies and identity-attachment mass-formation malady, but also a consumerism and a dependence paradigm, rather than embracing the freedom to learn, to empower themselves and each other. It's daunting to think, many may not know they can look deeper into it, not merely just use the software, but also study it, and change it, and share their changes... like they don't know how we got here. Freedom forgotten is freedom lost. permalink fedilink source parent [β] tdawg@lemmy.world 3 points 7 months ago (1 child) The age of the account makes it even more nebulous permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] MuckyWaffles@leminal.space 1 point 7 months ago (1 child) Lmao, I just made this account, yeah. It's not my first Lemmy account. I made an account on lemmy.world back in 2023 I think (lost the account), and a PieFed account earlier this year, which I hardly used. I thought I could use a fresh start. (And sorry for the ambiguous satire) permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] tdawg@lemmy.world 2 points 7 months ago I don't think that's on you. Like the person above said it's more to do with how the world is rn permalink fedilink source parent [β] okr765@lemmy.okr765.com 2 points 7 months ago I had to read until "manly man" to confirm it was satire permalink fedilink source parent [β] FauxLiving@lemmy.world 5 points 7 months ago Void Linux+Gnu Uhh, it's GNU SLASH Linux actually permalink fedilink source parent [β] FauxLiving@lemmy.world 2 points 7 months ago Edit: this is satire, I clearly interact with these people far too often to have done this good of a job. Imagine if The Onion had to say this. Your target audience understood, the people downvoting probably are Ubuntu users anway. permalink fedilink source parent [β] Digit@lemmy.wtf 1 point 7 months ago (1 child) Arch is utterly inferior because of its use of the Systemd βinitβ system, which is a bloated mess that completely disregards the Unix philosophy of doing one thing and doing it well, and shouldnβt be forgotten for its sins and heresy. So... do arch without systemd. (And not listed there, because its live-installer iso comes with systemd, is parabola linux, which does let you install with any of many init systems). Or as you say, any of many other distros that offer init-freedom. Though I'm not entirely sure if I'm replying to an instance of poe's law, intended to mock those of us who see things largely like you depicted. n_n Which is fun. PS, history of forcing their woke Wayland Display Server (Even though Xorg worked just fine, suspicious much?), Yes. Actively inhibiting development of Xorg. The tighter they squeeze the more of us slip through their fingers. Now there's XLibre (a Xorg fork, to continue (otherwise actively inhibited) patching and developing), and even Pheonix (a from-scratch implementation of the X11 protocol written in zig! ~ give it a couple years). Exciting times. Frankly I'm not even keen on the idea of pulse audio either. Funny how all this "Lennartware"'s so contemptable... from Lennart Poettering, who then went to work for Microsoft. Funny eh? Funny how it's almost like it's following the same ruthless dastardly insidious method of unscrupulously building a monopoly, via "embrace, extend, extinguish". Not a fan of pulseaudio, systemd, and wayland. Much prefer free software stays closer to being in human reach, so more of us can make use of the 4 freedoms of free software. So it's not just "free software" in name only, but in practice too. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] MuckyWaffles@leminal.space 2 points 7 months ago Sorry, my comment was satire, though I do daily drive Void Linux (and very much enjoy runit, and I'm looking to try openrc). Also I'm not really anti wayland, but I do dislike the squeezing of xorg development, as you mentioned. I'm pretty excited for the Phoenix project, as I'm a big fan of Zig myself, and I'm thinking of contributing. XLibre, I worry may be a lost cause with how many bridges I feel it's maintainer has burned with so many people, but he's also very committed so we'll see. permalink fedilink source parent
[β] AnarchistArtificer@slrpnk.net 39 points 7 months ago (1 child) I use Fedora, but I frequent the Arch wiki often enough that I feel like an honorary Arch user. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] FauxLiving@lemmy.world 14 points 7 months ago The Gentoo wiki is pretty good too permalink fedilink source parent
[β] FauxLiving@lemmy.world 14 points 7 months ago The Gentoo wiki is pretty good too permalink fedilink source parent
[β] ragas@lemmy.ml 23 points 7 months ago (1 child) Urgh! Why did you choose Arch? It is just the worst! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] FauxLiving@lemmy.world 20 points 7 months ago Actual reenactment: permalink fedilink source parent
[β] FauxLiving@lemmy.world 20 points 7 months ago Actual reenactment: permalink fedilink source parent
[β] NostraDavid@programming.dev 22 points 7 months ago (1 child) You're obviously not using NixOS. I clearly don't even need to try to use such a subpar stateful system such as Arch, you absolute pleb. Am I out-jerking you already? I use NixOS, obviously. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] Andrew15_5@mander.xyz 7 points 7 months ago I use NixOS btw permalink fedilink source parent
[β] oppy1984@lemdro.id 19 points 7 months ago Screams in Debian.... permalink fedilink source parent
[β] biscuitswalrus@aussie.zone 9 points 7 months ago Not true, you just become immune to the opposition. permalink fedilink source parent
[β] MuckyWaffles@leminal.space 1 point 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (4 children) Arch is utterly inferior because of its use of the Systemd "init" system, which is a bloated mess that completely disregards the Unix philosophy of doing one thing and doing it well, and shouldn't be forgotten for its sins and heresy. "Arch Linux" (Really Arch Gnu/Linux, or more preferably Arch Gnu+Linux (Unless you consider that Gnu runs on top of Linux, in which case it's Linux+Gnu)) cannot be taken seriously as a minimal do it yourself distro when it hinges on an software that has ties with RedHat, which has had a history of forcing their woke Wayland Display Server (Even though Xorg worked just fine, suspicious much?), as well as their DEI onto the entire Linux space - where politics shouldn't play any role. A WOKE company like RedHat has no place in the open source community. If you want to be a true and righteous Linux user, I recommend Either Void Linux+Gnu (What manly men like myself use) or Gentoo. Edit: this is satire, I clearly interact with these people far too often to have done this good of a job. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [β] 5C5C5C@programming.dev 24 points 7 months ago (3 children) It says something about how sad of a state the world is in when I can't tell if this is satire or not. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [β] burntbacon@discuss.tchncs.de 5 points 7 months ago (1 child) I mean, it's both good and bad. The amount of downvotes mean there is a large subset of folks who no longer recognize the twisting of stallman's rant. They are new to linux, and not super-serious-no-casuals-allowed penguin lovers. It's bad because I would love if everyone coming to linux could be as into it as I am. People who are invested into a thing take a much deeper look at things, and can appreciate it's soft and jagged parts and then properly make recommendations on how to change things. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] Digit@lemmy.wtf 1 point 7 months ago There has been I have noticed a marked increase in argumentum populum, argumentum ad lapidem and argumentum ad novitatem, with the influx of new users (in recent years), who seem to be coming to "Linux" like it's another platform; another groupthink team to switch to ["PC vs Mac"], rather than Linux just being a kernel that has a license that qualifies it as having a Free Software philosophy, and the free software (free as in freedom) being the reason to use it. Like they're still caught in, not just the fallacies and identity-attachment mass-formation malady, but also a consumerism and a dependence paradigm, rather than embracing the freedom to learn, to empower themselves and each other. It's daunting to think, many may not know they can look deeper into it, not merely just use the software, but also study it, and change it, and share their changes... like they don't know how we got here. Freedom forgotten is freedom lost. permalink fedilink source parent [β] tdawg@lemmy.world 3 points 7 months ago (1 child) The age of the account makes it even more nebulous permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] MuckyWaffles@leminal.space 1 point 7 months ago (1 child) Lmao, I just made this account, yeah. It's not my first Lemmy account. I made an account on lemmy.world back in 2023 I think (lost the account), and a PieFed account earlier this year, which I hardly used. I thought I could use a fresh start. (And sorry for the ambiguous satire) permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] tdawg@lemmy.world 2 points 7 months ago I don't think that's on you. Like the person above said it's more to do with how the world is rn permalink fedilink source parent [β] okr765@lemmy.okr765.com 2 points 7 months ago I had to read until "manly man" to confirm it was satire permalink fedilink source parent [β] FauxLiving@lemmy.world 5 points 7 months ago Void Linux+Gnu Uhh, it's GNU SLASH Linux actually permalink fedilink source parent [β] FauxLiving@lemmy.world 2 points 7 months ago Edit: this is satire, I clearly interact with these people far too often to have done this good of a job. Imagine if The Onion had to say this. Your target audience understood, the people downvoting probably are Ubuntu users anway. permalink fedilink source parent [β] Digit@lemmy.wtf 1 point 7 months ago (1 child) Arch is utterly inferior because of its use of the Systemd βinitβ system, which is a bloated mess that completely disregards the Unix philosophy of doing one thing and doing it well, and shouldnβt be forgotten for its sins and heresy. So... do arch without systemd. (And not listed there, because its live-installer iso comes with systemd, is parabola linux, which does let you install with any of many init systems). Or as you say, any of many other distros that offer init-freedom. Though I'm not entirely sure if I'm replying to an instance of poe's law, intended to mock those of us who see things largely like you depicted. n_n Which is fun. PS, history of forcing their woke Wayland Display Server (Even though Xorg worked just fine, suspicious much?), Yes. Actively inhibiting development of Xorg. The tighter they squeeze the more of us slip through their fingers. Now there's XLibre (a Xorg fork, to continue (otherwise actively inhibited) patching and developing), and even Pheonix (a from-scratch implementation of the X11 protocol written in zig! ~ give it a couple years). Exciting times. Frankly I'm not even keen on the idea of pulse audio either. Funny how all this "Lennartware"'s so contemptable... from Lennart Poettering, who then went to work for Microsoft. Funny eh? Funny how it's almost like it's following the same ruthless dastardly insidious method of unscrupulously building a monopoly, via "embrace, extend, extinguish". Not a fan of pulseaudio, systemd, and wayland. Much prefer free software stays closer to being in human reach, so more of us can make use of the 4 freedoms of free software. So it's not just "free software" in name only, but in practice too. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] MuckyWaffles@leminal.space 2 points 7 months ago Sorry, my comment was satire, though I do daily drive Void Linux (and very much enjoy runit, and I'm looking to try openrc). Also I'm not really anti wayland, but I do dislike the squeezing of xorg development, as you mentioned. I'm pretty excited for the Phoenix project, as I'm a big fan of Zig myself, and I'm thinking of contributing. XLibre, I worry may be a lost cause with how many bridges I feel it's maintainer has burned with so many people, but he's also very committed so we'll see. permalink fedilink source parent
[β] 5C5C5C@programming.dev 24 points 7 months ago (3 children) It says something about how sad of a state the world is in when I can't tell if this is satire or not. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [β] burntbacon@discuss.tchncs.de 5 points 7 months ago (1 child) I mean, it's both good and bad. The amount of downvotes mean there is a large subset of folks who no longer recognize the twisting of stallman's rant. They are new to linux, and not super-serious-no-casuals-allowed penguin lovers. It's bad because I would love if everyone coming to linux could be as into it as I am. People who are invested into a thing take a much deeper look at things, and can appreciate it's soft and jagged parts and then properly make recommendations on how to change things. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] Digit@lemmy.wtf 1 point 7 months ago There has been I have noticed a marked increase in argumentum populum, argumentum ad lapidem and argumentum ad novitatem, with the influx of new users (in recent years), who seem to be coming to "Linux" like it's another platform; another groupthink team to switch to ["PC vs Mac"], rather than Linux just being a kernel that has a license that qualifies it as having a Free Software philosophy, and the free software (free as in freedom) being the reason to use it. Like they're still caught in, not just the fallacies and identity-attachment mass-formation malady, but also a consumerism and a dependence paradigm, rather than embracing the freedom to learn, to empower themselves and each other. It's daunting to think, many may not know they can look deeper into it, not merely just use the software, but also study it, and change it, and share their changes... like they don't know how we got here. Freedom forgotten is freedom lost. permalink fedilink source parent [β] tdawg@lemmy.world 3 points 7 months ago (1 child) The age of the account makes it even more nebulous permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] MuckyWaffles@leminal.space 1 point 7 months ago (1 child) Lmao, I just made this account, yeah. It's not my first Lemmy account. I made an account on lemmy.world back in 2023 I think (lost the account), and a PieFed account earlier this year, which I hardly used. I thought I could use a fresh start. (And sorry for the ambiguous satire) permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] tdawg@lemmy.world 2 points 7 months ago I don't think that's on you. Like the person above said it's more to do with how the world is rn permalink fedilink source parent [β] okr765@lemmy.okr765.com 2 points 7 months ago I had to read until "manly man" to confirm it was satire permalink fedilink source parent
[β] burntbacon@discuss.tchncs.de 5 points 7 months ago (1 child) I mean, it's both good and bad. The amount of downvotes mean there is a large subset of folks who no longer recognize the twisting of stallman's rant. They are new to linux, and not super-serious-no-casuals-allowed penguin lovers. It's bad because I would love if everyone coming to linux could be as into it as I am. People who are invested into a thing take a much deeper look at things, and can appreciate it's soft and jagged parts and then properly make recommendations on how to change things. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] Digit@lemmy.wtf 1 point 7 months ago There has been I have noticed a marked increase in argumentum populum, argumentum ad lapidem and argumentum ad novitatem, with the influx of new users (in recent years), who seem to be coming to "Linux" like it's another platform; another groupthink team to switch to ["PC vs Mac"], rather than Linux just being a kernel that has a license that qualifies it as having a Free Software philosophy, and the free software (free as in freedom) being the reason to use it. Like they're still caught in, not just the fallacies and identity-attachment mass-formation malady, but also a consumerism and a dependence paradigm, rather than embracing the freedom to learn, to empower themselves and each other. It's daunting to think, many may not know they can look deeper into it, not merely just use the software, but also study it, and change it, and share their changes... like they don't know how we got here. Freedom forgotten is freedom lost. permalink fedilink source parent
[β] Digit@lemmy.wtf 1 point 7 months ago There has been I have noticed a marked increase in argumentum populum, argumentum ad lapidem and argumentum ad novitatem, with the influx of new users (in recent years), who seem to be coming to "Linux" like it's another platform; another groupthink team to switch to ["PC vs Mac"], rather than Linux just being a kernel that has a license that qualifies it as having a Free Software philosophy, and the free software (free as in freedom) being the reason to use it. Like they're still caught in, not just the fallacies and identity-attachment mass-formation malady, but also a consumerism and a dependence paradigm, rather than embracing the freedom to learn, to empower themselves and each other. It's daunting to think, many may not know they can look deeper into it, not merely just use the software, but also study it, and change it, and share their changes... like they don't know how we got here. Freedom forgotten is freedom lost. permalink fedilink source parent
[β] tdawg@lemmy.world 3 points 7 months ago (1 child) The age of the account makes it even more nebulous permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] MuckyWaffles@leminal.space 1 point 7 months ago (1 child) Lmao, I just made this account, yeah. It's not my first Lemmy account. I made an account on lemmy.world back in 2023 I think (lost the account), and a PieFed account earlier this year, which I hardly used. I thought I could use a fresh start. (And sorry for the ambiguous satire) permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] tdawg@lemmy.world 2 points 7 months ago I don't think that's on you. Like the person above said it's more to do with how the world is rn permalink fedilink source parent
[β] MuckyWaffles@leminal.space 1 point 7 months ago (1 child) Lmao, I just made this account, yeah. It's not my first Lemmy account. I made an account on lemmy.world back in 2023 I think (lost the account), and a PieFed account earlier this year, which I hardly used. I thought I could use a fresh start. (And sorry for the ambiguous satire) permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] tdawg@lemmy.world 2 points 7 months ago I don't think that's on you. Like the person above said it's more to do with how the world is rn permalink fedilink source parent
[β] tdawg@lemmy.world 2 points 7 months ago I don't think that's on you. Like the person above said it's more to do with how the world is rn permalink fedilink source parent
[β] okr765@lemmy.okr765.com 2 points 7 months ago I had to read until "manly man" to confirm it was satire permalink fedilink source parent
[β] FauxLiving@lemmy.world 5 points 7 months ago Void Linux+Gnu Uhh, it's GNU SLASH Linux actually permalink fedilink source parent
[β] FauxLiving@lemmy.world 2 points 7 months ago Edit: this is satire, I clearly interact with these people far too often to have done this good of a job. Imagine if The Onion had to say this. Your target audience understood, the people downvoting probably are Ubuntu users anway. permalink fedilink source parent
[β] Digit@lemmy.wtf 1 point 7 months ago (1 child) Arch is utterly inferior because of its use of the Systemd βinitβ system, which is a bloated mess that completely disregards the Unix philosophy of doing one thing and doing it well, and shouldnβt be forgotten for its sins and heresy. So... do arch without systemd. (And not listed there, because its live-installer iso comes with systemd, is parabola linux, which does let you install with any of many init systems). Or as you say, any of many other distros that offer init-freedom. Though I'm not entirely sure if I'm replying to an instance of poe's law, intended to mock those of us who see things largely like you depicted. n_n Which is fun. PS, history of forcing their woke Wayland Display Server (Even though Xorg worked just fine, suspicious much?), Yes. Actively inhibiting development of Xorg. The tighter they squeeze the more of us slip through their fingers. Now there's XLibre (a Xorg fork, to continue (otherwise actively inhibited) patching and developing), and even Pheonix (a from-scratch implementation of the X11 protocol written in zig! ~ give it a couple years). Exciting times. Frankly I'm not even keen on the idea of pulse audio either. Funny how all this "Lennartware"'s so contemptable... from Lennart Poettering, who then went to work for Microsoft. Funny eh? Funny how it's almost like it's following the same ruthless dastardly insidious method of unscrupulously building a monopoly, via "embrace, extend, extinguish". Not a fan of pulseaudio, systemd, and wayland. Much prefer free software stays closer to being in human reach, so more of us can make use of the 4 freedoms of free software. So it's not just "free software" in name only, but in practice too. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] MuckyWaffles@leminal.space 2 points 7 months ago Sorry, my comment was satire, though I do daily drive Void Linux (and very much enjoy runit, and I'm looking to try openrc). Also I'm not really anti wayland, but I do dislike the squeezing of xorg development, as you mentioned. I'm pretty excited for the Phoenix project, as I'm a big fan of Zig myself, and I'm thinking of contributing. XLibre, I worry may be a lost cause with how many bridges I feel it's maintainer has burned with so many people, but he's also very committed so we'll see. permalink fedilink source parent
[β] MuckyWaffles@leminal.space 2 points 7 months ago Sorry, my comment was satire, though I do daily drive Void Linux (and very much enjoy runit, and I'm looking to try openrc). Also I'm not really anti wayland, but I do dislike the squeezing of xorg development, as you mentioned. I'm pretty excited for the Phoenix project, as I'm a big fan of Zig myself, and I'm thinking of contributing. XLibre, I worry may be a lost cause with how many bridges I feel it's maintainer has burned with so many people, but he's also very committed so we'll see. permalink fedilink source parent
